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Explain why you liked it.

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suusuuu wrote...

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Donavien wrote...
The Mass Effect saga isn't about one guy, it's about the galaxy. Please keep your sarcasm out of my post. All I want is to let Bioware know that not everybody hates the ending.

I totally respect you opinion, and absolutely agree that it isn't about one guy.  That's actually one of the biggest arguments against the endings as they stand...we get to see zero impact our final decision makes on the galaxy we spent 3 games shaping.  

To be fair though, your decisions didn't have any impact on how the first two games ended either. Mass Effect is still a linear story, no matter how you go about it, every player still has to get the same ending. This isn't necessarily a good or a bad thing, but I think the vision the players and Bioware initially had player choice in regards how the series was going to end turned out to be way out of the developers reach. 

because this was supposed to be the last game about shepard and the next games were supposed to be prequels or spin-offs, they could've easily made really varied endings without any major consequences for future developement of the franchise. 

For the sake of creating a universe, no they couldn't. Bioware isn't going to throw Mass Effect out. I mean let's face it, the next couple games are going to be prequels, but eventually someone is going to sit down and want to expand the universe past ME3. If they had had incredibly varied endings that were completely dependent on every choice that the player has made throughout the series, they'd be stuck with a really small time frame in terms of how they can utilize the universe. By ending the game the way they did, they've allowed the possibility to take the ideas from that confusing montage and expand on them. 
Like I said, this isn't a good or a bad thing, it's just how the developer is choosing to utilize their universe.

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I like BLUE because it goes with my Husk-y eyes ;-)


The ending was like colored vanilla ice cream and beer on St Patrick's day, it all tastes the same and is made of the same substance and is identical in almost every way possible, it just a different COLOR...Posted Image

Modifié par Joe920, 21 mars 2012 - 05:54 .


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101ezylonhxeT wrote...

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Keep it up and those who are not objecting to what you want or attacking you will change stances.


They can do what ever they wan't because bioware isn't going to change anything anyway so what happens doesn't matter to me.


Well whether they do or do not, are you planning on staying bitter and angry at everyone else who are not miserable or upset as yourself for the rest of your life? If someone gains enjoyment for whatever reason why do you feel the need to attack them. You would not like it if we attacked you 24/7 if it was the other way around and was a game you loved.

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

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When people actually sit and think on the ending, they come to hate it.


Actually no they don't. I am one of them who liked it for few weeks now and that has not changed.


So you can ignore Joker picking up your crew and running away without you, the explosive power of the Mass Effect relays being totally ignored, and the total lack of the advertised cumulative choice/consequences resulting in a unique ending, and the deus ex machina which is one of the worst literary tools ever?

Modifié par Oakenshield1, 21 mars 2012 - 05:55 .


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I'm glad you enjoyed it, but that ending ruined the series for me.

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Donavien wrote...

The Mass Effect saga isn't about one guy, it's about the galaxy. Please keep your sarcasm out of my post. All I want is to let Bioware know that not everybody hates the ending.


Mass Effect is more about Shepard to be honest. Think about ti, how would you have felt if each of the sagas was about a new main character? Would it still fit?

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Donavien wrote...

As a 17 year old guy, I've beaten the game twice. First time I sacrificed myself to control the reapers (Meh ending)
Second time through on insanity I chose to destroy synthetic life, and I loved that ending. Just wanted to say I think you guys did a great job. 


Good for you stand up for your opinion. I also enjoyed the ending (Destroy), not the first two days, but it sank in.

And don't care about the insults, some people cannot grasp that people have different opinions about the ending.

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Oakenshield1 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Rob_Nix wrote...

When people actually sit and think on the ending, they come to hate it.


Actually no they don't. I am one of them who liked it for few weeks now and that has not changed.


So you can ignore Joker picking up your crew and running away without you, the explosive power of the Mass Effect relays being totally ignored, and the total lack of the advertised cumulative choice/consequences resulting in a unique ending, and the deus ex machina which is one of the worst literary tools ever?


I was on the citadel bleeding to death. I have bigger things to worry about than what Joker and his LI are up to.

If you want to know what I enjoyed and why link is in the signature. Not going to rehash 8 pages worth of defending myself for every single person who hates the ending.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 21 mars 2012 - 05:57 .


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Oakenshield1 wrote...

So you can ignore Joker picking up your crew and running away without you, the explosive power of the Mass Effect relays being totally ignored, and the total lack of the advertised cumulative choice/consequences resulting in a unique ending, and the deus ex machina which is one of the worst literary tools ever?


All of that is literally up to speculation. Being a science fiction there are easy ways to explain away those things. Even if there were no ways to explain them away, the fact that they can still be satsifying stands, as evidence by several people in this thread.

There is no point in trying to persuade someone to disliking the ending, you essentially are passing on the message "because I'm unhappy, someone else needs to be as well."

Some of you are getting out of line, leave it be if you don't agree.

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DarthTrey wrote...

suusuuu wrote...

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Donavien wrote...
The Mass Effect saga isn't about one guy, it's about the galaxy. Please keep your sarcasm out of my post. All I want is to let Bioware know that not everybody hates the ending.

I totally respect you opinion, and absolutely agree that it isn't about one guy.  That's actually one of the biggest arguments against the endings as they stand...we get to see zero impact our final decision makes on the galaxy we spent 3 games shaping.  

To be fair though, your decisions didn't have any impact on how the first two games ended either. Mass Effect is still a linear story, no matter how you go about it, every player still has to get the same ending. This isn't necessarily a good or a bad thing, but I think the vision the players and Bioware initially had player choice in regards how the series was going to end turned out to be way out of the developers reach. 

because this was supposed to be the last game about shepard and the next games were supposed to be prequels or spin-offs, they could've easily made really varied endings without any major consequences for future developement of the franchise. 

For the sake of creating a universe, no they couldn't. Bioware isn't going to throw Mass Effect out. I mean let's face it, the next couple games are going to be prequels, but eventually someone is going to sit down and want to expand the universe past ME3. If they had had incredibly varied endings that were completely dependent on every choice that the player has made throughout the series, they'd be stuck with a really small time frame in terms of how they can utilize the universe. By ending the game the way they did, they've allowed the possibility to take the ideas from that confusing montage and expand on them. 
Like I said, this isn't a good or a bad thing, it's just how the developer is choosing to utilize their universe.

They said there was no canon to Mass Effect numerous times. And they basically shot themselves in the knee with this ending so whatever, the franchise is dead for a lot of people. I'm still regretting pre-ordering those action figures I will only get in April. 
And what is there to expand upon anyway? They said themselves that the end of ME3 is the new dark age for the galaxy, not very exciting as a space opera setting. The expansion would have to take place thousands of years after these events to work as a sci-fi setting and be consistent with the franchise.

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To be fair though, your decisions didn't have any impact on how the first two games ended either. Mass Effect is still a linear story, no matter how you go about it, every player still has to get the same ending. This isn't necessarily a good or a bad thing, but I think the vision the players and Bioware initially had player choice in regards how the series was going to end turned out to be way out of the developers reach. 

That's true. However, while the choices in the game does not affect your gameplay or story in a direct sense, it does implay differrent outcomes that is consistent with the universe as a whole.
For example, if you killed Mordin in ME2, he is replaced by a different Salarian. You still have to do the same missions as if Mordin was there but facing a different character. On the other hand, Mordin dying implies that he is dead (obviously), and that the universe just lost a great scientist. 
It may not affect the game in any way, but it does affect your imagination and shape the universe in your mind.
Now the ending is such a tragedy because it implies exactly the same thing, that everyone is basically f***ed.
If Bioware had put in some kind of epilogue like in DA:O, I'm pretty sure the ending wouldn't have garnered as much hate as it does now.

I 100% agree with you. I don't hate the ending. I was however extremely frustrated with how muddled that final cutscene was. What I want more than anything is for Bioware to come out with the DA:O epilogue like ending. 

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ReavousX wrote...

Donavien wrote...

The Mass Effect saga isn't about one guy, it's about the galaxy. Please keep your sarcasm out of my post. All I want is to let Bioware know that not everybody hates the ending.


I totally respect you opinion, and absolutely agree that it isn't about one guy.  That's actually one of the biggest arguments against the endings as they stand...we get to see zero impact our final decision makes on the galaxy we spent 3 games shaping.  


^This. A numerical score is not an adequate way of taking our decisions into account, but that's what many of them boil down to: a friggin numbers game. And then that's it. We don't see the Geth and Quarians rebuild. We don't see the Krogan overcome their aggressive nature and join the other races as equals. Last I saw of Palaven, it was still burning. Without seeing something, anything to show how I actually shapped the course of history, there wasn't an ending. It's not a topic of good or bad, like or dislike. The ending wasn't ****ing there. Instead, we got a copy-paste of space magic 16 times, with the claim that those are "wildly different endings". No. That wasn't an ending.

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Donavien wrote...

Vaktathi wrote...

Donavien wrote...

As a 17 year old guy, I've beaten the game twice. First time I sacrificed myself to control the reapers (Meh ending)
Second time through on insanity I chose to destroy synthetic life, and I loved that ending. Just wanted to say I think you guys did a great job. 


>_>

it's the same ending, except red instead of blue and the reapers fall over instead of fly up. 




Though you would have been only 5 years old the first time many of us saw this same ending in a game called DeusEx, had the exact same control AI/destroy AI/merge with AI options in Red/Blue/Green as well. 



I actually played that game, wouldn't really compare the two but I see the resemblance.


Wouldn't really compare the two? The endings are almost verbatim Deus Ex.

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You liked the Destroy ending better than the Control?

You should try Synthesis! It was my favourite. I just love green! Not a big fan of red, but the reapers actually fell down instead of leaving Earth, so that made up for it.

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Donavien wrote...

The Mass Effect saga isn't about one guy, it's about the galaxy. Please keep your sarcasm out of my post. All I want is to let Bioware know that not everybody hates the ending.


What did you like about the endings?  How were they in comparason to the endings of ME1 and ME2? 

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meh the DA:O epilogue doesn't fit in with the ME series style at all. That'd be pretty awful tbh.

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I am always happy for people who liked the ending (though slightly confused). I'll like it as soon as the indoctrination theory comes true :).
I just hope we wont ruin the game for you IF we should ever get our wish.

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Donavien wrote...

As a 17 year old guy, I've beaten the game twice. First time I sacrificed myself to control the reapers (Meh ending)
Second time through on insanity I chose to destroy synthetic life, and I loved that ending. Just wanted to say I think you guys did a great job. 


I've said it plenty of times before, and I'll say it again. Embracing the ending of ME3 and the Starchild in particular requires the player to accept literary devices that have been rejected by viritually all educated individuals for thousands of years of history, from disparate cultures around the globe.

Refuse to tolerate deus ex machina in any dramatic narrative. The world will be a better place.

Hold the line.

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MrFob wrote...

I am always happy for people who liked the ending (though slightly confused). I'll like it as soon as the indoctrination theory comes true :).
I just hope we wont ruin the game for you IF we should ever get our wish.


Dude trust me a 5 minute cut scene will NEVER ruin a 30-40 hour game for me.  :lol:

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

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Keep it up and those who are not objecting to what you want or attacking you will change stances.


They can do what ever they wan't because bioware isn't going to change anything anyway so what happens doesn't matter to me.


Well whether they do or do not, are you planning on staying bitter and angry at everyone else who are not miserable or upset as yourself for the rest of your life? If someone gains enjoyment for whatever reason why do you feel the need to attack them. You would not like it if we attacked you 24/7 if it was the other way around and was a game you loved.


I don't love any game or have a favorite one i just play them nor do i care about the companies that make them there only purpose is to sell me a product and i decide if i will buy it or not i unfortunately bought the CE when i should have just bought the regular edition as this was my first CE but now i know better than to buy any game above 60$ and that's a mistake i will never make again.

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meh the DA:O epilogue doesn't fit in with the ME series style at all. That'd be pretty awful tbh.


Um, why on earth not? Please elaborate.

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I wonder if I was this naive when I was 17...

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Helmchen2010 wrote...

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meh the DA:O epilogue doesn't fit in with the ME series style at all. That'd be pretty awful tbh.


Um, why on earth not? Please elaborate.


Little text cards to replace the cutscenes?


You really think that would fit into the game well?

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So you thought the control ending was "meh", but the synthesis was good? It's the same ending. You must like the color green