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[Dragoonlordz]

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Donavien wrote...
The Mass Effect saga isn't about one guy, it's about the galaxy. Please keep your sarcasm out of my post. All I want is to let Bioware know that not everybody hates the ending.

I totally respect you opinion, and absolutely agree that it isn't about one guy.  That's actually one of the biggest arguments against the endings as they stand...we get to see zero impact our final decision makes on the galaxy we spent 3 games shaping.  

To be fair though, your decisions didn't have any impact on how the first two games ended either. Mass Effect is still a linear story, no matter how you go about it, every player still has to get the same ending. This isn't necessarily a good or a bad thing, but I think the vision the players and Bioware initially had player choice in regards how the series was going to end turned out to be way out of the developers reach. 

because this was supposed to be the last game about shepard and the next games were supposed to be prequels or spin-offs, they could've easily made really varied endings without any major consequences for future developement of the franchise. 

For the sake of creating a universe, no they couldn't. Bioware isn't going to throw Mass Effect out. I mean let's face it, the next couple games are going to be prequels, but eventually someone is going to sit down and want to expand the universe past ME3. If they had had incredibly varied endings that were completely dependent on every choice that the player has made throughout the series, they'd be stuck with a really small time frame in terms of how they can utilize the universe. By ending the game the way they did, they've allowed the possibility to take the ideas from that confusing montage and expand on them. 
Like I said, this isn't a good or a bad thing, it's just how the developer is choosing to utilize their universe.

They said there was no canon to Mass Effect numerous times. And they basically shot themselves in the knee with this ending so whatever, the franchise is dead for a lot of people. I'm still regretting pre-ordering those action figures I will only get in April. 
And what is there to expand upon anyway? They said themselves that the end of ME3 is the new dark age for the galaxy, not very exciting as a space opera setting. The expansion would have to take place thousands of years after these events to work as a sci-fi setting and be consistent with the franchise.

We have no idea how far in the future after events the next game could start in. 500 years, 1000 years or 50,000 years upon which time they may have created an alternative way to travel or by salvaging parts of the Reapers and relays they may have figured out how to build their own. Or it could be prequels. It however does not need to be thousands of years to be a great Sci-Fi title space based title. There has always been canon, PR can say what they want in order to sell games but canon has always existed, you just had via choices a way to break away from it now and again.

[ReavousX]

DarthTrey wrote...

suusuuu wrote...

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ReavousX wrote...

Donavien wrote...
The Mass Effect saga isn't about one guy, it's about the galaxy. Please keep your sarcasm out of my post. All I want is to let Bioware know that not everybody hates the ending.

I totally respect you opinion, and absolutely agree that it isn't about one guy.  That's actually one of the biggest arguments against the endings as they stand...we get to see zero impact our final decision makes on the galaxy we spent 3 games shaping.  

To be fair though, your decisions didn't have any impact on how the first two games ended either. Mass Effect is still a linear story, no matter how you go about it, every player still has to get the same ending. This isn't necessarily a good or a bad thing, but I think the vision the players and Bioware initially had player choice in regards how the series was going to end turned out to be way out of the developers reach. 

because this was supposed to be the last game about shepard and the next games were supposed to be prequels or spin-offs, they could've easily made really varied endings without any major consequences for future developement of the franchise. 

For the sake of creating a universe, no they couldn't. Bioware isn't going to throw Mass Effect out. I mean let's face it, the next couple games are going to be prequels, but eventually someone is going to sit down and want to expand the universe past ME3. If they had had incredibly varied endings that were completely dependent on every choice that the player has made throughout the series, they'd be stuck with a really small time frame in terms of how they can utilize the universe. By ending the game the way they did, they've allowed the possibility to take the ideas from that confusing montage and expand on them. 
Like I said, this isn't a good or a bad thing, it's just how the developer is choosing to utilize their universe.

I'm all for not closing the book on the ME universe.  That was predictable.  However, I'm not fond of this whole thing where Bioware tells us that it's the "end of Shepard's story" and then doesn't wrap up the specifics that are connected to him.  

They basically stopped writing right after the climax.  There's no resolution, outside of the nonsensical crash landing of the Normandy.  That's a MASSIVE no-no when it comes to ending a trilogy.  

[Xandax]

Donavien wrote...

The Mass Effect saga isn't about one guy, it's about the galaxy. Please keep your sarcasm out of my post. All I want is to let Bioware know that not everybody hates the ending.

So what effect did you see from your chocies? Did you save the Krogan and what consequence did that give you? Did you unite the Geth/Quarian and how did that choice pan out for you? 
And how about everybody being stranded on Earth (best case) or wiped out (Mass Relay exploding worst case).

If you claim the series isn't just about 'Shepard' - then all the lack of explanation and closure of the everybodys fate - because nothing is explained about anything.

[Texhnolyze101]

Nobody will buy prequels as the endings to ME3 make playing them a waste of time.

[Vaerkone]

Michale_Jackson wrote...


anyone who like's ME3 ending is trolling.   Otherwise they would make an argument in their post on why ME3 ending is better than ME2, ME1 or any other game. 

But if all you're going to say is that I like the ending thanks Bioware, then expect a digital hand to come out of your monitor and slap you in the face for wasting the digital forum space.

Just because I liked the ending of ME3 does not mean that it was better then ME1/2's ending (or the best ending in video game history). It simply means that I enjoyed it enough for the game to have a replay value for me, and it did not destroy the series for me.

[Kingofdragoons]

Ahhhh! *Takes in a deep breath* I love the smell of someone saying they loved the ending in the late evening! Smells like... trolls.

[ticklefist]

Donavien wrote...

As a 17 year old guy 

That first line is some pretty obvious baiting in and of itself.

[Freestate2nd]

Liara "singularity" !!! pew pew problem solved, one troll defeated!

[Oakenshield1]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

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Rob_Nix wrote...

When people actually sit and think on the ending, they come to hate it.

Actually no they don't. I am one of them who liked it for few weeks now and that has not changed.

So you can ignore Joker picking up your crew and running away without you, the explosive power of the Mass Effect relays being totally ignored, and the total lack of the advertised cumulative choice/consequences resulting in a unique ending, and the deus ex machina which is one of the worst literary tools ever?

I was on the citadel bleeding to death. I have bigger things to worry about than what Joker and his LI are up to.

If you want to know what I enjoyed and why link is in the signature. Not going to rehash 8 pages worth of defending myself for every single person who hates the ending.

I skimmed your tag. So you like it because it makes sense through the eyes of Shepard? I guess that makes sense, if you want your Shep to be a sheep for a genocidal AI...

[Texhnolyze101]

DarthTrey wrote...

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DarthTrey wrote...

suusuuu wrote...

DarthTrey wrote...

ReavousX wrote...

Donavien wrote...The Mass Effect saga isn't about one guy, it's about the galaxy. Please keep your sarcasm out of my post. All I want is to let Bioware know that not everybody hates the ending.

I totally respect you opinion, and absolutely agree that it isn't about one guy.  That's actually one of the biggest arguments against the endings as they stand...we get to see zero impact our final decision makes on the galaxy we spent 3 games shaping.  

To be fair though, your decisions didn't have any impact on how the first two games ended either. Mass Effect is still a linear story, no matter how you go about it, every player still has to get the same ending. This isn't necessarily a good or a bad thing, but I think the vision the players and Bioware initially had player choice in regards how the series was going to end turned out to be way out of the developers reach. 

because this was supposed to be the last game about shepard and the next games were supposed to be prequels or spin-offs, they could've easily made really varied endings without any major consequences for future developement of the franchise.

For the sake of creating a universe, no they couldn't. Bioware isn't going to throw Mass Effect out. I mean let's face it, the next couple games are going to be prequels, but eventually someone is going to sit down and want to expand the universe past ME3. If they had had incredibly varied endings that were completely dependent on every choice that the player has made throughout the series, they'd be stuck with a really small time frame in terms of how they can utilize the universe. By ending the game the way they did, they've allowed the possibility to take the ideas from that confusing montage and expand on them. Like I said, this isn't a good or a bad thing, it's just how the developer is choosing to utilize their universe.

They said there was no canon to Mass Effect numerous times. And they basically shot themselves in the knee with this ending so whatever, the franchise is dead for a lot of people. I'm still regretting pre-ordering those action figures I will only get in April. And what is there to expand upon anyway? They said themselves that the end of ME3 is the new dark age for the galaxy, not very exciting as a space opera setting. The expansion would have to take place thousands of years after these events to work as a sci-fi setting and be consistent with the franchise.

You're letting your personal feelings color the argument. First of all, these ending are a way to avoid creating a cannon for ME3. It's not a coincidence that they are all so much alike. Having a varied ending would force Bioware to choose a cannon ending or just leave everything after ME3 alone. Which would create a 50 year time span to work with, because Bioware has also expressed that they have little interest in exploring the ME universe before the humans arrive in it.
I think you'd be surprised about how well a new Mass Effect would do. The people who absolutely hate the ending of the game and have let that affect their opinion on Bioware make up a very small percentage of the people that have bought and played the game. I'm sorry you feel the way you do, but honestly I'd rather read a forum post from somebody that "blindly loves" the ending than the post someone who is letting five minutes of a 100 hour experience change their opinion on an incredible journey.

The journey meant nothing anyway.

[Axialbloom]

All 'three' endings were the same. How could you like one and not another?

[Texhnolyze101]

DarthTrey wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

DarthTrey wrote...

suusuuu wrote...

DarthTrey wrote...suusuuu wrote...

DarthTrey wrote...

ReavousX wrote...

Donavien wrote...The Mass Effect saga isn't about one guy, it's about the galaxy. Please keep your sarcasm out of my post. All I want is to let Bioware know that not everybody hates the ending.I totally respect you opinion, and absolutely agree that it isn't about one guy.  That's actually one of the biggest arguments against the endings as they stand...we get to see zero impact our final decision makes on the galaxy we spent 3 games shaping.  

To be fair though, your decisions didn't have any impact on how the first two games ended either. Mass Effect is still a linear story, no matter how you go about it, every player still has to get the same ending. This isn't necessarily a good or a bad thing, but I think the vision the players and Bioware initially had player choice in regards how the series was going to end turned out to be way out of the developers reach.

because this was supposed to be the last game about shepard and the next games were supposed to be prequels or spin-offs, they could've easily made really varied endings without any major consequences for future developement of the franchise.

For the sake of creating a universe, no they couldn't. Bioware isn't going to throw Mass Effect out. I mean let's face it, the next couple games are going to be prequels, but eventually someone is going to sit down and want to expand the universe past ME3. If they had had incredibly varied endings that were completely dependent on every choice that the player has made throughout the series, they'd be stuck with a really small time frame in terms of how they can utilize the universe. By ending the game the way they did, they've allowed the possibility to take the ideas from that confusing montage and expand on them. Like I said, this isn't a good or a bad thing, it's just how the developer is choosing to utilize their universe.

They said there was no canon to Mass Effect numerous times. And they basically shot themselves in the knee with this ending so whatever, the franchise is dead for a lot of people. I'm still regretting pre-ordering those action figures I will only get in April. And what is there to expand upon anyway? They said themselves that the end of ME3 is the new dark age for the galaxy, not very exciting as a space opera setting. The expansion would have to take place thousands of years after these events to work as a sci-fi setting and be consistent with the franchise.

You're letting your personal feelings color the argument. First of all, these ending are a way to avoid creating a cannon for ME3. It's not a coincidence that they are all so much alike. Having a varied ending would force Bioware to choose a cannon ending or just leave everything after ME3 alone. Which would create a 50 year time span to work with, because Bioware has also expressed that they have little interest in exploring the ME universe before the humans arrive in it.I think you'd be surprised about how well a new Mass Effect would do. The people who absolutely hate the ending of the game and have let that affect their opinion on Bioware make up a very small percentage of the people that have bought and played the game. I'm sorry you feel the way you do, but honestly I'd rather read a forum post from somebody that "blindly loves" the ending than the post someone who is letting five minutes of a 100 hour experience change their opinion on an incredible journey.

The journey meant nothing anyway.

Obviously it meant something to you or you wouldn't be on the forums complaining about the ending to the journey.

The destination made my journey pointless and a waste of my time.

[Dragoonlordz]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Nobody will buy prequels as the endings to ME3 make playing them a waste of time.

I would.

[Dragoonlordz]

Kingofdragoons wrote...

Ahhhh! *Takes in a deep breath* I love the smell of someone saying they loved the ending in the late evening! Smells like... trolls.

Really because the position of your head relative to your butt seems to appear might be something else your smelling. Just because someone likes something does not make him or her a troll.

[Texhnolyze101]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Nobody will buy prequels as the endings to ME3 make playing them a waste of time.

I would.

Of course YOU would im talking about the people who hate the ending don't care about what happens with ME anymore in general.

[Dragoonlordz]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Nobody will buy prequels as the endings to ME3 make playing them a waste of time.

I would.

Of course YOU would im talking about the people who hate the ending don't care about what happens with ME anymore in general.

Then what developer or franchise are you planning on moving on to?

[Suraxis]

If I speed through the game without any previous character saves, ignoring most, if not all side quests, and pretty much just ****ing around, I still receive much the same ending as someone who's actually gone through the entirety of the game. What bloody sense does that make!?

[Texhnolyze101]

DarthTrey wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

DarthTrey wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

DarthTrey wrote...suusuuu wrote...

DarthTrey wrote...suusuuu wrote...

DarthTrey wrote...

ReavousX wrote...

Donavien wrote...The Mass Effect saga isn't about one guy, it's about the galaxy. Please keep your sarcasm out of my post. All I want is to let Bioware know that not everybody hates the ending.I totally respect you opinion, and absolutely agree that it isn't about one guy.  That's actually one of the biggest arguments against the endings as they stand...we get to see zero impact our final decision makes on the galaxy we spent 3 games shaping.  To be fair though, your decisions didn't have any impact on how the first two games ended either. Mass Effect is still a linear story, no matter how you go about it, every player still has to get the same ending. This isn't necessarily a good or a bad thing, but I think the vision the players and Bioware initially had player choice in regards how the series was going to end turned out to be way out of the developers reach.

because this was supposed to be the last game about shepard and the next games were supposed to be prequels or spin-offs, they could've easily made really varied endings without any major consequences for future developement of the franchise.

For the sake of creating a universe, no they couldn't. Bioware isn't going to throw Mass Effect out. I mean let's face it, the next couple games are going to be prequels, but eventually someone is going to sit down and want to expand the universe past ME3. If they had had incredibly varied endings that were completely dependent on every choice that the player has made throughout the series, they'd be stuck with a really small time frame in terms of how they can utilize the universe. By ending the game the way they did, they've allowed the possibility to take the ideas from that confusing montage and expand on them. Like I said, this isn't a good or a bad thing, it's just how the developer is choosing to utilize their universe.

They said there was no canon to Mass Effect numerous times. And they basically shot themselves in the knee with this ending so whatever, the franchise is dead for a lot of people. I'm still regretting pre-ordering those action figures I will only get in April. And what is there to expand upon anyway? They said themselves that the end of ME3 is the new dark age for the galaxy, not very exciting as a space opera setting. The expansion would have to take place thousands of years after these events to work as a sci-fi setting and be consistent with the franchise.

You're letting your personal feelings color the argument. First of all, these ending are a way to avoid creating a cannon for ME3. It's not a coincidence that they are all so much alike. Having a varied ending would force Bioware to choose a cannon ending or just leave everything after ME3 alone. Which would create a 50 year time span to work with, because Bioware has also expressed that they have little interest in exploring the ME universe before the humans arrive in it.I think you'd be surprised about how well a new Mass Effect would do. The people who absolutely hate the ending of the game and have let that affect their opinion on Bioware make up a very small percentage of the people that have bought and played the game. I'm sorry you feel the way you do, but honestly I'd rather read a forum post from somebody that "blindly loves" the ending than the post someone who is letting five minutes of a 100 hour experience change their opinion on an incredible journey.

The journey meant nothing anyway.

Obviously it meant something to you or you wouldn't be on the forums complaining about the ending to the journey.

The destination made my journey pointless and a waste of my time.

Then why the hell are you wasting your time on the Bioware forums? When something's wastes my time, the last thing I want to do is spend several weeks thinking and debating about it.

Im here because i want to see what bioware will do regarding the endings plus i like this forum more than the bethsoft forum mainly because there 200 post limit is annoying.

[SirCrimz]

What galaxy?