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[HenchxNarf]

majormajormmajor wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Both side has their bad apples. But the ones on the movement side are much, much worse.

Bollocks. It's nice that you're pushing the fiction but no one buys it

Really? Cause I've seen death threats, bombing threats, lawsuit threats, wishing people to kill themselves... Blatant violence against people who like the endings. Name calling. Calling everyone trolls or PR. That no one intelligent could possibly like the endings. Need I continue?

At least the ones who like the endings haven't resorted to that.

Like someone said earlier in this thread, if pro-ending people are grenades, then anti-ending people are supernovas.

Modifié par HenchxNarf, 21 mars 2012 - 10:43 .

[GodChildInTheMachine]

Dav3VsTh3World wrote...

fayt002 wrote...

people that like the ending are people that are swayed by politicans commercials. they just take it at face value.

Can I just make a point about this? What gives people in the louder crowd the right to insult people that don't agree with them? And make claims that they're dumb or being bought out? Why can't these people accept that there are people out there freely have a different opinion than they do, hell its what the Premisis of Freedom of Speech is all about, you may not like what the opposing party says but that doesn't give you the right to slander them and tell them to shut up.

What fayt002 said is obviously an inflamatory and sweeping generalization.

Not many here are going to outright call you dumb for your opinion. Yes, you are entitled to have your opinion and you can state it whenever you wish, but it does not constitute an argument.

Obviously there are people who just make inflamatory remarks, which is wrong, but we all do it sometimes and the best way not to give that behavior incentive is to ignore it. If you want people to respect your views, forget people that say those things and try to explain why you think that the ending was good based on its own merits, without resorting to the same inflamatory tactics or just resting on the argument that it's your opinion.

I am probably not going to change your opinion and you are not going to change mine, so why even enter a discussion that is defined by those terms? It can only have one outcome. Instead, try to argue for what you feel are the objective merits for the endings. Be prepared to debate them, though.

[majormajormmajor]

Cody211282 wrote...

I would say both sides have some really bad ones, I would say the pro ending side is a bit worse but thats just because of what side im on.

The pro-ending side has been unambigiously worse, its not a matter of perspective. From the beginning they have relied on character assasination, and now that they are receiving it in turn they are screaming oppression.

I hope the hypocrisy chokes the sh*t out of them.

[Chk-2000]

HenchxNarf wrote...

majormajormmajor wrote...

Dav3VsTh3World wrote...

Can I just make a point about this? What gives people in the louder crowd the right to insult people that don't agree with them? And make claims that they're dumb or being bought out? Why can't these people accept that there are people out there freely have a different opinion than they do, hell its what the Premisis of Freedom of Speech is all about, you may not like what the opposing party says but that doesn't give you the right to slander them and tell them to shut up.

What gave your kind the right to insult people that didn't like the endings, which is all you people have been doing since the story broke?

You are getting repaid as you deserve.

Both side has their bad apples. But the ones on the movement side are much, much worse.

I don't think our bad apples are worse. We just have more bad apples...

[Cody211282]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

majormajormmajor wrote...

Bollocks. It's nice that you're pushing the fiction but no one buys it

Please, think about what you're saying. Anytime someone says something positive, it's drowned out by hate and negativity. Check out the threads.

Thats because because there are more people who hate the ending on here, not because they are "worse" then the people who like the ending.

[Cody211282]

HenchxNarf wrote...

majormajormmajor wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Both side has their bad apples. But the ones on the movement side are much, much worse.

Bollocks. It's nice that you're pushing the fiction but no one buys it

Really? Cause I've seen death threats, bombing threats, lawsuit threats, wishing people to kill themselves... Blatant violence against people who like the endings. Name calling. Calling everyone trolls or PR. That no one intelligent could possibly like the endings. Need I continue?

At least the ones who like the endings haven't resorted to that.

Like someone said earlier in this thread, if pro-ending people are grenades, then anti-ending people are supernovas.

Umm I don't condone what people are doing but that bolded part is just wrong, I've seen bad things on both sides so don't try to say your side doesn't so the same things.

[HenchxNarf]

Chk-2000 wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

majormajormmajor wrote...

Dav3VsTh3World wrote...

Can I just make a point about this? What gives people in the louder crowd the right to insult people that don't agree with them? And make claims that they're dumb or being bought out? Why can't these people accept that there are people out there freely have a different opinion than they do, hell its what the Premisis of Freedom of Speech is all about, you may not like what the opposing party says but that doesn't give you the right to slander them and tell them to shut up.

What gave your kind the right to insult people that didn't like the endings, which is all you people have been doing since the story broke?

You are getting repaid as you deserve.

Both side has their bad apples. But the ones on the movement side are much, much worse.

I don't think our bad apples are worse. We just have more bad apples...

When they resort to threats, they become worse.

[majormajormmajor]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Really? Cause I've seen death threats, bombing threats, lawsuit threats, wishing people to kill themselves... Blatant violence against people who like the endings. Name calling. Calling everyone trolls or PR. That no one intelligent could possibly like the endings. Need I continue?

Nice job at concoting outright fabrications and lies. I wish we had master propagandists like you on this end.

Your side threatened to rape and murder puppies and sodomise a horse. See? I can make stuff up as well.

[Chk-2000]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Chk-2000 wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

majormajormmajor wrote...

Dav3VsTh3World wrote...

Can I just make a point about this? What gives people in the louder crowd the right to insult people that don't agree with them? And make claims that they're dumb or being bought out? Why can't these people accept that there are people out there freely have a different opinion than they do, hell its what the Premisis of Freedom of Speech is all about, you may not like what the opposing party says but that doesn't give you the right to slander them and tell them to shut up.

What gave your kind the right to insult people that didn't like the endings, which is all you people have been doing since the story broke?

You are getting repaid as you deserve.

Both side has their bad apples. But the ones on the movement side are much, much worse.

I don't think our bad apples are worse. We just have more bad apples...

When they resort to threats, they become worse.

Well, but this goes for both sides...

[HenchxNarf]

Cody211282 wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

majormajormmajor wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Both side has their bad apples. But the ones on the movement side are much, much worse.

Bollocks. It's nice that you're pushing the fiction but no one buys it

Really? Cause I've seen death threats, bombing threats, lawsuit threats, wishing people to kill themselves... Blatant violence against people who like the endings. Name calling. Calling everyone trolls or PR. That no one intelligent could possibly like the endings. Need I continue?

At least the ones who like the endings haven't resorted to that.

Like someone said earlier in this thread, if pro-ending people are grenades, then anti-ending people are supernovas.

Umm I don't condone what people are doing but that bolded part is just wrong, I've seen bad things on both sides so don't try to say your side doesn't so the same things.

I have no seen one pro-ending person threaten someone's life, call for people to be fired, or use any sort of violent tactic against anyone. Yes, namecalling has happened. But nothing in comparison to the violence.

[hawat333]

I like the endings.
As for your question, I do not explain plot holes. I don't need to.
Yeah, I don't really like what happens to the Normandy, that whole situation doesn't make sense to me.
So I say "Hey, it's a game. I'll just ignore it and pretend to myself that it crashed on Earth. Yeah, that makes sense."
And yeah, there are some minor holes here and there. I'll gladly accept them with some suspension of disbelief.
Others, I fill with some creative imagination.
After all, ME2 was full of lore conflicts too.
I also don't miss the closure. I know well enough about the galaxy to figure out what will happen, I'm actually glad, that it's up to me to do it.
The endings have a concept, they have a message too. I'm very satisfied with that. So the minor things, I'm willing to let slide.
And again, it's a video game. If you can't take a videogame, you're looking forward to a really hard life.

[GodChildInTheMachine]

HenchxNarf wrote...

majormajormmajor wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Both side has their bad apples. But the ones on the movement side are much, much worse.

Bollocks. It's nice that you're pushing the fiction but no one buys it

Really? Cause I've seen death threats, bombing threats, lawsuit threats, wishing people to kill themselves... Blatant violence against people who like the endings. Name calling. Calling everyone trolls or PR. That no one intelligent could possibly like the endings. Need I continue?

At least the ones who like the endings haven't resorted to that.

Like someone said earlier in this thread, if pro-ending people are grenades, then anti-ending people are supernovas.

Yet here you are being inflamatory... I'm not excusing that behavior (though I certainly haven't seen any of those things or anywhere close to it).

But what good are you doing for the situation if you goal here is to hang that banner of malcontent over all of us and inflame the situation by giving extreme examples and calling us out?

[HenchxNarf]

majormajormmajor wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Really? Cause I've seen death threats, bombing threats, lawsuit threats, wishing people to kill themselves... Blatant violence against people who like the endings. Name calling. Calling everyone trolls or PR. That no one intelligent could possibly like the endings. Need I continue?

Nice job at concoting outright fabrications and lies. I wish we had master propagandists like you on this end.

Your side threatened to rape and murder puppies and sodomise a horse. See? I can make stuff up as well.

Are you really this dense, or are you trolling me.

[majormajormmajor]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Are you really this dense, or are you trolling me.

waaa waaa

proof of what you say or gtfo

It's easy to invent things like death threats and lawsuits. I can do it just as easy.

[HenchxNarf]

GodChildInTheMachine wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

majormajormmajor wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Both side has their bad apples. But the ones on the movement side are much, much worse.

Bollocks. It's nice that you're pushing the fiction but no one buys it

Really? Cause I've seen death threats, bombing threats, lawsuit threats, wishing people to kill themselves... Blatant violence against people who like the endings. Name calling. Calling everyone trolls or PR. That no one intelligent could possibly like the endings. Need I continue?

At least the ones who like the endings haven't resorted to that.

Like someone said earlier in this thread, if pro-ending people are grenades, then anti-ending people are supernovas.

Yet here you are being inflamatory... I'm not excusing that behavior (though I certainly haven't seen any of those things or anywhere close to it).

But what good are you doing for the situation if you goal here is to hang that banner of malcontent over all of us and inflame the situation by giving extreme examples and calling us out?

That wasn't the point in what I was saying. But there's no point in trying to explain it.

And if you haven't done anything mentioned, you have nothing to worry about.

[Cody211282]

hawat333 wrote...

I like the endings.
As for your question, I do not explain plot holes. I don't need to.
Yeah, I don't really like what happens to the Normandy, that whole situation doesn't make sense to me.
So I say "Hey, it's a game. I'll just ignore it and pretend to myself that it crashed on Earth. Yeah, that makes sense."
And yeah, there are some minor holes here and there. I'll gladly accept them with some suspension of disbelief.
Others, I fill with some creative imagination.
After all, ME2 was full of lore conflicts too.
I also don't miss the closure. I know well enough about the galaxy to figure out what will happen, I'm actually glad, that it's up to me to do it.
The endings have a concept, they have a message too. I'm very satisfied with that. So the minor things, I'm willing to let slide.
And again, it's a video game. If you can't take a videogame, you're looking forward to a really hard life.

For me it's less of just taking it and more holding writers up to a higher level then they are performing at.
If you spend time building the universe and the rules it works in then you should be able to use the tools you have made to write your ending without breaking the universe.

[majormajormmajor]

I'm seeing a startling lack of evidence for these allegations of what this side supposedly did, and a whole lot of libel coming out of you bunch.

hardly to be unexpected. It's what you've been doing from the beginning.

[majormajormmajor]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

How do you know those are lies? You do a disservice to your side of the fence with such ignorance.

You know, the burden of proof is usually on the one making the accusation. Your disservice is being done to truth and common sense.

[Chk-2000]

MissNet wrote...

It's space magic to me.
But hey, some people likes broccoli and i even have friend who likes broccoli. Still friend.
*silently hate broccoli with passion*

Maybe you'd like broccoli more if it was red or blue or ... hey wait ...

[Cody211282]

majormajormmajor wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

How do you know those are lies? You do a disservice to your side of the fence with such ignorance.

You know, the burden of proof is usually on the one making the accusation. Your disservice is being done to truth and common sense.

You know both of you are making your respective sides look like a bunch of crazies right?

[Lukanp]

I remember quite a few Star Wars fans liked Jar Jar Binks as a character when the Phantom Menace came out, there's no explanation for that either.

Modifié par Lukanp, 21 mars 2012 - 10:56 .

[GodChildInTheMachine]

Lukanp wrote...

I remember quite a few Star Wars fans liked Jar Jar Binks as a character when the Phantom Menace came out, there's no explanation for that either.

And with that, I'm out.

[KingKhan03]

Why do people actually like the ending? Cocaine is a hell of a drug.