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[Chk-2000]

I don't blame people for liking the endings. It's just a matter of opinion. Some people like spinach, some don't. Doesn't make them bad people.

What I don't understand is if those people say: "I absolutely forbid you to ask Bioware for alternate endings, because I like them as they are".

[FemmeShep]

HenchxNarf wrote...

FemmeShep wrote...

111987 wrote...

ohmic12 wrote...

They are either trolls looking to fire people up or they only started playing the ME series at ME3 so have no idea of the story line of ME1 & 2 so miss out on the emotional connection that other people have for the series

And you call them the trolls.

Or maybe they just have bad taste. The highest watched show on TV right now is Two and A Half Men. Lots of people have terrible taste.

Why do you think the most sold products on the market are forumlaic and homogonized.

Just because they don't have the same opinion as you, doesn't mean they have bad taste.

And for that matter, I don't think people have bad taste just because they don't agree with me. I already explained why I think those that like the ending, are IMO flawed in why they like the ending. Has nothing to do with them having an opposite opinion of mine.

If they want to argue I'm wrong, then have at it. Would love to hear why they liked the ending that isn't what I said. 

[Chernaya]

You can't say one side is right or wrong, everyone's opinions on this matter are subjective to their own points of view and preferences. To hate on either side, or call names, just makes you and whichever side you represent look childish. Just because we don't agree on something, does that mean we can't be respectful of one another and get along? It's a video game. One I really love and am passionate about, but it shouldn't make people insult each-other like this.

[MrLee95]

The people who hated the ending are people who pay attention and slowly recognized the big picture.
aka the Indoctrination Theory!


The others... just play games.

Modifié par MrLee95, 21 mars 2012 - 08:04 .

[FemmeShep]

EionaCousland wrote...

You can't say one side is right or wrong, everyone's opinions on this matter are subjective to their own points of view and preferences. To hate on either side, or call names, just makes you and whichever side you represent look childish. Just because we don't agree on something, does that mean we can't be respectful of one another and get along? It's a video game. One I really love and am passionate about, but it shouldn't make people insult each-other like this.

Again, disagree with this. I think there is objectively bad art/things in life. 

[111987]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

111987 wrote...

Maybe those people are willing to look past the plot holes to see the message behind them, to explore and think critically about the issues and themes raised, etc...

There is no message the endings just suck.

If you say so, it must be true.

[Zing Freelancer]

I guess they are good at "Okay *shrugs" and moving on.

[FemmeShep]

111987 wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

111987 wrote...

Maybe those people are willing to look past the plot holes to see the message behind them, to explore and think critically about the issues and themes raised, etc...

There is no message the endings just suck.

If you say so, it must be true.

At least those that hated it, have reasons why they hated it.

Those that liked it, like it for very basic reasons ignoring all the flaws. Sorry. 

[EllOneillE]

I think a lot of the people that like the ending focus on the sacrifice and not on what the destruction of the relays means or care much for knowing what actually happens to the characters and the different galactic cultures now.

[HenchxNarf]

111987 wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

111987 wrote...

Maybe those people are willing to look past the plot holes to see the message behind them, to explore and think critically about the issues and themes raised, etc...

There is no message the endings just suck.

If you say so, it must be true.

They're the oracle, you know. They know all.

[Geneaux486]

I liked the ending and I played all three games several times over, payed attention to the story, was invested in it and in the characters, and thought long and hard about it.

[FemmeShep]

EllOneillE wrote...

I think a lot of the people that like the ending focus on the sacrifice and not on what the destruction of the relays means or care much for knowing what actually happens to the characters and the different galactic cultures now.

They sure as hell don't care about plot continuity. 

[HenchxNarf]

EllOneillE wrote...

I think a lot of the people that like the ending focus on the sacrifice and not on what the destruction of the relays means or care much for knowing what actually happens to the characters and the different galactic cultures now.

Not true. I understand what sacrifices were made and what it means for the relays to be destroyed.

[o Ventus]

FemaleMageFan wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

If the indoctrination theory is real.....then this is the greatest ending i have ever come across no sarcasm

Admittedly, if this many people are scratching their heads at the plausibility, then it wasn't a great idea, in hindsight.

The last time i was trying to decipher a meaning to a certan cinematic it was inception. I like this hats off to Mac i want to play it again now

The finale to LOST wasn't as idiotically mind-boggling as this.

Hell, I could determine the purpose behind JarJar Binks before this.

In my opinion, the indoctrination theory (while somewhat plausible via subliminal hints) sounds like desperation.

[pistolols]

Ingu wrote...

But after trying out the other choices (and seeing the exact same cinematics repeated at me with colour changes) I was pissed.

should only be pissed at yourself for not getting it.  i was not surprised one bit that the cinematics were the same... because the catalyst straight up tells you that the result is the same for each.. the relays are destroyed, and the reapers stop reaping.  SO ultimately your "choice" has the same outcome, it's only a matter of how you want YOUR shepard to go about it.  It's a microcosm of the conversation mechanic from the entire game... where often your choice of conversation option leads to the same result.. just with a different shepard flavor.

The ending is brilliant.  You people that don't get it and don't like it really ought to find something else to do and stop embarrassing yourselves here.

[FemmeShep]

HenchxNarf wrote...

EllOneillE wrote...

I think a lot of the people that like the ending focus on the sacrifice and not on what the destruction of the relays means or care much for knowing what actually happens to the characters and the different galactic cultures now.

Not true. I understand what sacrifices were made and what it means for the relays to be destroyed.

So you are okay with Shepard sacrificing himself for a completely stupid cause....

Some AI deity tells you how it must be, and you just go along with. Despite their being evidence that he's wrong. Okay. 

[Chernaya]

Opinions are as subjective as they get.

Something might royally suck to you, but if a person loves it, the value to them is as good as anything considered a masterpiece anywhere else.

[Edje Edgar]

111987 wrote...

Maybe those people are willing to look past the plot holes to see the message behind them, to explore and think critically about the issues and themes raised, etc...

What message is that? Social-Darwinism? Cause that's what I got from it.

[Geneaux486]

Protests of lack of plot continuity ring hollow. The Crucble functions as it was predicted to, and the Catalyst's explanation of his solution and the reason it could no longer work was hinted at as early as the first Mass Effect game.

[FemmeShep]

EionaCousland wrote...

Opinions are as subjective as they get.

Something might royally suck to you, but if a person loves it, the value to them is as good as anything considered a masterpiece anywhere else.

Or maybe I should just watch what I said (Edited because I was being a jerk). Sorry everyone!

Modifié par FemmeShep, 21 mars 2012 - 09:19 .

[111987]

FemmeShep wrote...

111987 wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

111987 wrote...

Maybe those people are willing to look past the plot holes to see the message behind them, to explore and think critically about the issues and themes raised, etc...

There is no message the endings just suck.

If you say so, it must be true.

At least those that hated it, have reasons why they hated it.

Those that liked it, like it for very basic reasons ignoring all the flaws. Sorry. 

People that I've seen that have liked the ending like it because it allows them to think and consider the bigger issues raised. So, sweeping generalizations like that just make it seem like you don't truly understand their point of view.

[HenchxNarf]

FemmeShep wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

EllOneillE wrote...

I think a lot of the people that like the ending focus on the sacrifice and not on what the destruction of the relays means or care much for knowing what actually happens to the characters and the different galactic cultures now.

Not true. I understand what sacrifices were made and what it means for the relays to be destroyed.

So you are okay with Shepard sacrificing himself for a completely stupid cause....

Some AI deity tells you how it must be, and you just go along with. Despite their being evidence that he's wrong. Okay. 

It's no use to say anything to you. You're part of the "SPACE MAGIC" line. You think your opinion is all that matters, and you've proven that by the way you respond.

[Chernaya]

FemmeShep wrote...

EionaCousland wrote...

Opinions are as subjective as they get.

Something might royally suck to you, but if a person loves it, the value to them is as good as anything considered a masterpiece anywhere else.

You are right. Someone could think Poop slathered on a wall in a museum is a masterpiece. It's totally subjective. 

Actually, yes. If they really loved it, it would be a masterpeice to them. It is subjective.

[Cody211282]

111987 wrote...

Maybe those people are willing to look past the plot holes to see the message behind them, to explore and think critically about the issues and themes raised, etc...

And those would be?