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[papapwnzone]

Hmm my guess is many are incognito employees of BW or EA lol.

[FemmeShep]

111987 wrote...

FemmeShep wrote...

111987 wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

111987 wrote...

Maybe those people are willing to look past the plot holes to see the message behind them, to explore and think critically about the issues and themes raised, etc...

There is no message the endings just suck.

If you say so, it must be true.

At least those that hated it, have reasons why they hated it.

Those that liked it, like it for very basic reasons ignoring all the flaws. Sorry. 

People that I've seen that have liked the ending like it because it allows them to think and consider the bigger issues raised. So, sweeping generalizations like that just make it seem like you don't truly understand their point of view.

What's the bigger issues raised? Some Deity AI tells you how things are to be, and Shepard just goes along with it. There is no bigger picture here. 

Well, except maybe Shepard is a fool in the end. 

[HenchxNarf]

111987 wrote...

FemmeShep wrote...

111987 wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

111987 wrote...

Maybe those people are willing to look past the plot holes to see the message behind them, to explore and think critically about the issues and themes raised, etc...

There is no message the endings just suck.

If you say so, it must be true.

At least those that hated it, have reasons why they hated it.

Those that liked it, like it for very basic reasons ignoring all the flaws. Sorry. 

People that I've seen that have liked the ending like it because it allows them to think and consider the bigger issues raised. So, sweeping generalizations like that just make it seem like you don't truly understand their point of view.

Here's my take on my ending.

http://social.biowar...5/index/9810976

[shepard1038]

FemmeShep wrote...

EionaCousland wrote...

Opinions are as subjective as they get.

Something might royally suck to you, but if a person loves it, the value to them is as good as anything considered a masterpiece anywhere else.

You are right. Someone could think Poop slathered on a wall in a museum is a masterpiece. It's totally subjective. 

You just lost all credibility with that coment.

[Edje Edgar]

111987 wrote...

FemmeShep wrote...

111987 wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

111987 wrote...

Maybe those people are willing to look past the plot holes to see the message behind them, to explore and think critically about the issues and themes raised, etc...

There is no message the endings just suck.

If you say so, it must be true.

At least those that hated it, have reasons why they hated it.

Those that liked it, like it for very basic reasons ignoring all the flaws. Sorry. 

People that I've seen that have liked the ending like it because it allows them to think and consider the bigger issues raised. So, sweeping generalizations like that just make it seem like you don't truly understand their point of view.

What is the bigger issue then?

[111987]

Edje Edgar wrote...

111987 wrote...

Maybe those people are willing to look past the plot holes to see the message behind them, to explore and think critically about the issues and themes raised, etc...

What message is that? Social-Darwinism? Cause that's what I got from it.

There are many messages you can draw from the endings. One of the messages if that despite how dark things might get, there is always hope, and a chance to start anew (destruction of the mass relays, jungle planet the Normandy crashed on).

[shepard1038]

111987 wrote...

Edje Edgar wrote...

111987 wrote...

Maybe those people are willing to look past the plot holes to see the message behind them, to explore and think critically about the issues and themes raised, etc...

What message is that? Social-Darwinism? Cause that's what I got from it.

There are many messages you can draw from the endings. One of the messages if that despite how dark things might get, there is always hope, and a chance to start anew (destruction of the mass relays, jungle planet the Normandy crashed on).

Dont bother there ignorants.

[Geneaux486]

Is there a thread around here for people who liked the endings?

[Edje Edgar]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Here's my take on my ending.

http://social.biowar...5/index/9810976

Ye great, so you accept starchild's premise that the nature of all conflict is the cause of genetical make up? In other words: painting every human gray will stop all future wars?

You picked the racist ending, it has a green explosion. Now buy DLC.

[111987]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Here's my take on my ending.

http://social.biowar...5/index/9810976

Interesting read. I'm sorry you were immediately flamed for expressing your opinions.

[FemmeShep]

HenchxNarf wrote...

FemmeShep wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

EllOneillE wrote...

I think a lot of the people that like the ending focus on the sacrifice and not on what the destruction of the relays means or care much for knowing what actually happens to the characters and the different galactic cultures now.

Not true. I understand what sacrifices were made and what it means for the relays to be destroyed.

So you are okay with Shepard sacrificing himself for a completely stupid cause....

Some AI deity tells you how it must be, and you just go along with. Despite their being evidence that he's wrong. Okay. 

It's no use to say anything to you. You're part of the "SPACE MAGIC" line. You think your opinion is all that matters, and you've proven that by the way you respond.

Actually, Space Magic isn't that far off. Shoot this box and all synthetics in the universe magically get destroyed. Jump in this white light and all Synthetic and Organic DNA is fused.

What would you call that? 

But ignoring "space magic" nonsense aside (I wasn't even talking about that). This AI/Deity tells you your options, and bases these options on completely idiotic logic. And despite their being evidence that his logic is flawed (and Shepard knows that evidence) he just idely goes along, not even questioning the Deity/Ai.

What a hero. What a worthy sacrifice. I don't see what this has to do with the Space Magic portion. 

[HenchxNarf]

Geneaux486 wrote...

Is there a thread around here for people who liked the endings?

Not really, because they get buried by trolls.

[Tyrzun]

Geneaux486 wrote...

Is there a thread around here for people who liked the endings?

There are only 2 endings.  indoctrination  and you die or you wake back up in London where you were knocked out.

[shepard1038]

Geneaux486 wrote...

Is there a thread around here for people who liked the endings?

There is this thread http://social.biowar...P.html#10365574

Modifié par shepard1038, 21 mars 2012 - 08:14 .

[Chernaya]

Geneaux486 wrote...

Is there a thread around here for people who liked the endings?

Yes, but they get quickly killed by many condescending people who think their opinion is better than the OP's.

:/

[HenchxNarf]

111987 wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Here's my take on my ending.

http://social.biowar...5/index/9810976

Interesting read. I'm sorry you were immediately flamed for expressing your opinions.

And someone wished I would kill myself, too. But their post got removed by a mod.

[Geneaux486]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Geneaux486 wrote...

Is there a thread around here for people who liked the endings?

Not really, because they get buried by trolls.

That's the way of it.  No matter how solid an argument you bring to the table, you wind up being treated like a strawman.  Ah well.  I hope Bioware continues to stand by their ending.

[Cyph3rX]

I'm still waiting for the templar lady to pop up and yell BS at Varric for some reason.

[The Angry One]

111987 wrote...

Edje Edgar wrote...

111987 wrote...

Maybe those people are willing to look past the plot holes to see the message behind them, to explore and think critically about the issues and themes raised, etc...

What message is that? Social-Darwinism? Cause that's what I got from it.

There are many messages you can draw from the endings. One of the messages if that despite how dark things might get, there is always hope, and a chance to start anew (destruction of the mass relays, jungle planet the Normandy crashed on).

Yes let's forget all context, all reason, all logic and focus on some condescending message!
And you people say *we* want rainbows and butterflies.

Sorry, this is Mass Effect, not some college arthouse project. We invested in this for closure and an ending that makes sense, not this.
Also, the Normandy scene represents no hope. It represents magic, and a coward who abandoned the one person they owed everything to and wrecked the ship due to his stupidity.

[Maria Caliban]

Some people have low expectations.

[HenchxNarf]

Geneaux486 wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Geneaux486 wrote...

Is there a thread around here for people who liked the endings?

Not really, because they get buried by trolls.

That's the way of it.  No matter how solid an argument you bring to the table, you wind up being treated like a strawman.  Ah well.  I hope Bioware continues to stand by their ending.

I'm pretty sure they will.

[The Angry One]

shepard1038 wrote...

Dont bother there ignorants.

Irony.

[New Generation]

In my mind there are only two ways that you could like the current endings if they are to be taken at face value and nothing is read into them:

First, and most likely: ME3 is the players first time entering the ME universe. They have not played the previous two games and as such do not have the same time and emotional investments in the characters and story that most of us do and as such have no idea what to "expect" out of bioware in regards to an acceptable ending.

Second, and least likely, is the reality that some see it as art and due to a rare taste find the endings acceptable.

[111987]

Edje Edgar wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Here's my take on my ending.

http://social.biowar...5/index/9810976

Ye great, so you accept starchild's premise that the nature of all conflict is the cause of genetical make up? In other words: painting every human gray will stop all future wars?

You picked the racist ending, it has a green explosion. Now buy DLC.

I don't think you really understood the ending.

1. The Star Child never said genetics was the cause of ALL conflict. The Star Child said the fundamental differences between synthetics and organics will inevitably lead to conflict between them.

2. Synthesis will not end all future wars. Organics have warred against one another; synthetics have warred against one another. Synthesis however, will (alledgedly) end the possibility of the total annihilation of organics at the hands of synthetics (or even vice versa).

3. The ending was not racist. In fact, it affected every 'race' equally.