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[JenMaxon]

Erethrian wrote...

"Building on their research, Exec Producer Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey. You’ll hear more on this in April. We’re working hard to maintain the right balance between the artistic integrity of the original story while addressing the fan feedback we’ve received. This is in addition to our existing plan to continue providing new Mass Effect content and new full games, so rest assured that your journey in the Mass Effect universe can, and will, continue."

http://blog.bioware....012/03/21/4108/

I just want to point out that 1st April is All Fools Day.

[Tibiilicious]

Erethrian wrote...

"Building on their research, Exec Producer Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey. You’ll hear more on this in April. We’re working hard to maintain the right balance between the artistic integrity of the original story while addressing the fan feedback we’ve received. This is in addition to our existing plan to continue providing new Mass Effect content and new full games, so rest assured that your journey in the Mass Effect universe can, and will, continue."

http://blog.bioware....012/03/21/4108/

This, you were all grasping at sraws, the indoc theory is no more.

[Myskal1981]

Ray's comment pretty much confirmed that they had nothing planned beforehand and that these endings were intended.

[Erethrian]

Myskal1981 wrote...

Ray's comment pretty much confirmed that they had nothing planned beforehand and that these endings were intended.

Meh, not so sure.

[MadRabbit999]

Tibiilicious wrote...

Erethrian wrote...

"Building on their research, Exec Producer Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey. You’ll hear more on this in April. We’re working hard to maintain the right balance between the artistic integrity of the original story while addressing the fan feedback we’ve received. This is in addition to our existing plan to continue providing new Mass Effect content and new full games, so rest assured that your journey in the Mass Effect universe can, and will, continue."

http://blog.bioware....012/03/21/4108/

This, you were all grasping at sraws, the indoc theory is no more.

lol you are grasping at the same straws and not even realisign it...

Saying they want to explain it better, doesn't prove there is no indoctrination theory... maybe they wantto make it more obvious for people like you?

Some people will deny aliens abductions even during their butt probing session....

Ah... yes "reapers"

[CavScout]

Turbotanden wrote...

S1at3 wrote...

CavScout wrote...

This is where the whole indoctrination theory fails spectacularly. If you fail to to build enough EMS before the final battle, the ONLY option you have is destroy. Why would the Reapers ONLY give you one option and the option would be to destroy them and beat indoctrination? Why does being less prepared mean 100% chance and breaking free from indoctrination? You win more easily by failing to prepare?

Your point isn't valid because it goes against the indoctrination theory.  Or at least that's what it will boil down to.

It is quite obvious that with low enough EMS there is no need for an indoctrinated Shepard. And that is why the boy says "Why are you here?" instead of "Wake up" and why you don't wake up in the end. You died, sorry.

With low EMS the only option is to destroy the Reapers. So the Reapers indoctrinate Shep to kill them off...

[Myskal1981]

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Tibiilicious wrote...

Erethrian wrote...

"Building on their research, Exec Producer Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey. You’ll hear more on this in April. We’re working hard to maintain the right balance between the artistic integrity of the original story while addressing the fan feedback we’ve received. This is in addition to our existing plan to continue providing new Mass Effect content and new full games, so rest assured that your journey in the Mass Effect universe can, and will, continue."

http://blog.bioware....012/03/21/4108/

This, you were all grasping at sraws, the indoc theory is no more.

lol you are grasping at the same straws and not even realisign it...

Saying they want to explain it better, doesn't prove there is no indoctrination theory... maybe they wantto make it more obvious for people like you?

Some people will deny aliens abductions even during their butt probing session....

Ah... yes "reapers"

sorry, and some people are just in denial.

A joke is not good if it needs to be explained. So an awesome twist is not good, if you have to wait, until everyone gets it, before confirming it.

[Erethrian]

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Tibiilicious wrote...

Erethrian wrote...

"Building on their research, Exec Producer Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey. You’ll hear more on this in April. We’re working hard to maintain the right balance between the artistic integrity of the original story while addressing the fan feedback we’ve received. This is in addition to our existing plan to continue providing new Mass Effect content and new full games, so rest assured that your journey in the Mass Effect universe can, and will, continue."

http://blog.bioware....012/03/21/4108/

This, you were all grasping at sraws, the indoc theory is no more.

lol you are grasping at the same straws and not even realisign it...

Saying they want to explain it better, doesn't prove there is no indoctrination theory... maybe they wantto make it more obvious for people like you?

Some people will deny aliens abductions even during their butt probing session....

Ah... yes "reapers"

Exactly, he doesn't say anything about "we are working on something new for you", but he seems to say there's something more and that they're working on a response about the endings to be made ASAP. As I've been saying the entire time, waiting for April 6th! 

[Tibiilicious]

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Tibiilicious wrote...

Erethrian wrote...

"Building on their research, Exec Producer Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey. You’ll hear more on this in April. We’re working hard to maintain the right balance between the artistic integrity of the original story while addressing the fan feedback we’ve received. This is in addition to our existing plan to continue providing new Mass Effect content and new full games, so rest assured that your journey in the Mass Effect universe can, and will, continue."

http://blog.bioware....012/03/21/4108/

This, you were all grasping at sraws, the indoc theory is no more.

lol you are grasping at the same straws and not even realisign it...

Saying they want to explain it better, doesn't prove there is no indoctrination theory... maybe they wantto make it more obvious for people like you?

Some people will deny aliens abductions even during their butt probing session....

Ah... yes "reapers"

I'm not sure why i'm the one who is grasping at sraws, sure i diden't like the ending, but it's the overal game that counted and i've made my peace. And there is no Indoctrination theory, they never planned for it, if you actually bother to read the blog you will realize this is the ending they had planned al along. 

Maybe they will release an Indoctination theory ending based on how populair it appears under you people who had search every nook and cranny to explain the ending. But as it stands, the Indoctrination theory was not planned. That is my point.

[CavScout]

dorktainian wrote...

MadRabbit999 wrote...

One more question:

In the ending Shepard wakes up in a pile of Concrete and reinforced concrete (The one with metal spirals of wire running through the concrete), which is something we use to make buildings on earth... while the citadel seems mostly made by metallic alloys and ceramic plating... anybody picked that one up?

because he wakes up where he fell in London before magic fairy Harbie dust took him on a mindbending trip to citadel heaven.

Except you weren't runnig through rubble when hit...

[DESTRAUDO]

Watches the joke that was the indoc theory go down in flames. Feels gooood.

[Erethrian]

Tibiilicious wrote...

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Tibiilicious wrote...

Erethrian wrote...

"Building on their research, Exec Producer Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey. You’ll hear more on this in April. We’re working hard to maintain the right balance between the artistic integrity of the original story while addressing the fan feedback we’ve received. This is in addition to our existing plan to continue providing new Mass Effect content and new full games, so rest assured that your journey in the Mass Effect universe can, and will, continue."

http://blog.bioware....012/03/21/4108/

This, you were all grasping at sraws, the indoc theory is no more.

lol you are grasping at the same straws and not even realisign it...

Saying they want to explain it better, doesn't prove there is no indoctrination theory... maybe they wantto make it more obvious for people like you?

Some people will deny aliens abductions even during their butt probing session....

Ah... yes "reapers"

I'm not sure why i'm the one who is grasping at sraws, sure i diden't like the ending, but it's the overal game that counted and i've made my peace. And there is no Indoctrination theory, they never planned for it, if you actually bother to read the blog you will realize this is the ending they had planned al along. 

Maybe they will release an Indoctination theory ending based on how populair it appears under you people who had search every nook and cranny to explain the ending. But as it stands, the Indoctrination theory was not planned. That is my point.

Where does he say that? Because I've read the entire thing and can't say if that's what he's saying.

Modifié par Erethrian, 21 mars 2012 - 03:38 .

[MadRabbit999]

CavScout wrote...

Turbotanden wrote...

S1at3 wrote...

CavScout wrote...

This is where the whole indoctrination theory fails spectacularly. If you fail to to build enough EMS before the final battle, the ONLY option you have is destroy. Why would the Reapers ONLY give you one option and the option would be to destroy them and beat indoctrination? Why does being less prepared mean 100% chance and breaking free from indoctrination? You win more easily by failing to prepare?

Your point isn't valid because it goes against the indoctrination theory.  Or at least that's what it will boil down to.

It is quite obvious that with low enough EMS there is no need for an indoctrinated Shepard. And that is why the boy says "Why are you here?" instead of "Wake up" and why you don't wake up in the end. You died, sorry.

With low EMS the only option is to destroy the Reapers. So the Reapers indoctrinate Shep to kill them off...

Since they have tryed shooting at  you for the past 3 years and failed... maybe it is time to stop trying shooting Shepard, but instead destroying his mind?

If Indoctrination is true. .then Shepard is NOT in the Citadel, he is just fighting a mental battle... and wins it...  The destruction of th ereapers it is only the consequences of the Crucibel reaching its destination and working on its own, without any need to activate panels on the Citadel.

[Tamcia]

wtbusername wrote...

Inb4 "You are grasping at straws" "Bioware made a mistake and just screwed up the ending" "I'd rather keep wallowing in misery than consider Bioware to have talented writers who could possibly have something up their sleeves"

Actually I'd love it if this was true. 

At elast from the last games and the codex, all signs point to indoctrination. I wish this was BW master plan. I'd be happy to get that DLC and follow Shep as he goes like- AW HELL NO YOU BIG STUPID JELLYFISH and proceed kicking Reapers ass. 

I wish this was the case, but I've somewhat lost trust in BW. 

[MadRabbit999]

Erethrian wrote...

Tibiilicious wrote...

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Tibiilicious wrote...

Erethrian wrote...

"Building on their research, Exec Producer Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey. You’ll hear more on this in April. We’re working hard to maintain the right balance between the artistic integrity of the original story while addressing the fan feedback we’ve received. This is in addition to our existing plan to continue providing new Mass Effect content and new full games, so rest assured that your journey in the Mass Effect universe can, and will, continue."

http://blog.bioware....012/03/21/4108/

This, you were all grasping at sraws, the indoc theory is no more.

lol you are grasping at the same straws and not even realisign it...

Saying they want to explain it better, doesn't prove there is no indoctrination theory... maybe they wantto make it more obvious for people like you?

Some people will deny aliens abductions even during their butt probing session....

Ah... yes "reapers"

I'm not sure why i'm the one who is grasping at sraws, sure i diden't like the ending, but it's the overal game that counted and i've made my peace. And there is no Indoctrination theory, they never planned for it, if you actually bother to read the blog you will realize this is the ending they had planned al along. 

Maybe they will release an Indoctination theory ending based on how populair it appears under you people who had search every nook and cranny to explain the ending. But as it stands, the Indoctrination theory was not planned. That is my point.

Where does he say that? Because I've read the entire thing and can't say if that's what he's saying.

Yes this IS the ending they palnned all along genius.. it works both ways..

They planned all along to create indoctrination and make you beleive you were fully awake... so they "succeded" in making you beleive that.

I am not saying what is true or false..  IAm jsut saying stop thinking it is "Obvious" because it isn't....

Modifié par MadRabbit999, 21 mars 2012 - 03:41 .

[Erethrian]

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Erethrian wrote...

Tibiilicious wrote...

...


I'm not sure why i'm the one who is grasping at sraws, sure i diden't like the ending, but it's the overal game that counted and i've made my peace. And there is no Indoctrination theory, they never planned for it, if you actually bother to read the blog you will realize this is the ending they had planned al along. 

Maybe they will release an Indoctination theory ending based on how populair it appears under you people who had search every nook and cranny to explain the ending. But as it stands, the Indoctrination theory was not planned. That is my point.

Where does he say that? Because I've read the entire thing and can't say if that's what he's saying.

Yes this IS the ending they palnned all along genius.. it works both ways..

They planned all along to create indoctrination and make you beleive you were fully awake... so they "succeded" in making you beleive that.

I am not saying what is true or false..  IAm jsut saying stop thinking it is "Obvious" because it isn't....

That's the point, it isn't obvious that the IT isn't true, but it isn't obvious that the IT is true. So we're at the same point as before.

So, again, we'll have to wait 'til April 6th.


Edit: Fixed formatting.

Modifié par Erethrian, 21 mars 2012 - 03:43 .

[MadRabbit999]

[quote]Erethrian wrote...

[quote]MadRabbit999 wrote...

[quote]Erethrian wrote...

[quote]Tibiilicious wrote...

...

[/quote]

I'm not sure why i'm the one who is grasping at sraws, sure i diden't like the ending, but it's the overal game that counted and i've made my peace. And there is no Indoctrination theory, they never planned for it, if you actually bother to read the blog you will realize this is the ending they had planned al along. 

Maybe they will release an Indoctination theory ending based on how populair it appears under you people who had search every nook and cranny to explain the ending. But as it stands, the Indoctrination theory was not planned. That is my point.

[/quote]

Where does he say that? Because I've read the entire thing and can't say if that's what he's saying.

[/quote]

Yes this IS the ending they palnned all along genius.. it works both ways..

They planned all along to create indoctrination and make you beleive you were fully awake... so they "succeded" in making you beleive that.

I am not saying what is true or false..  IAm jsut saying stop thinking it is "Obvious" because it isn't....

[/quote]

That's the point, it isn't obvious that the IT isn't true, but it isn't obvious that the IT is true. So we're at the same point as before.

So, again, we'll have to wait 'til April 6th.

[/quote]

Exactly...

Modifié par MadRabbit999, 21 mars 2012 - 03:44 .

[Gibb_Shepard]

HAHAHAHA! It's all over guys. No more conspiracies. Now you can come and join the rest of us normal folk in pointing out the logical fallacies and inconsistencies of the ending.

[CavScout]

MadRabbit999 wrote...

CavScout wrote...

With low EMS the only option is to destroy the Reapers. So the Reapers indoctrinate Shep to kill them off...

Since they have tryed shooting at  you for the past 3 years and failed... maybe it is time to stop trying shooting Shepard, but instead destroying his mind?

If Indoctrination is true. .then Shepard is NOT in the Citadel, he is just fighting a mental battle... and wins it...  The destruction of th ereapers it is only the consequences of the Crucibel reaching its destination and working on its own, without any need to activate panels on the Citadel.

What? Why would the worse you do per-assault make it easier to "win" using the Indoc theory? Why does preparing better, gathering the galaxy's inhabitants to confront the Reapers make it harder to pick the "win" ending? Do the reapers feel sorry for you if you suck and just let you win?

[MadRabbit999]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

HAHAHAHA! It's all over guys. No more conspiracies. Now you can come and join the rest of us normal folk in pointing out the logical fallacies and inconsistencies of the ending.

Must be fun to laugh by yuorself... just do not do it near us  "normies" please.

You haven't bothered reading this post.. so do not bother answering... the official statement does not dismiss indoctrination, nor promotes it.. they promissed more explanation, period.

[CavScout]

Tamcia wrote...
At elast from the last games and the codex, all signs point to indoctrination.

There are no such signs. There is plenty of hope, wishes, fan theory wanking and connecting the dot of unrelated points. That's all.

[LilyasAvalon]

CavScout wrote...

Tamcia wrote...
At elast from the last games and the codex, all signs point to indoctrination.

There are no such signs. There is plenty of hope, wishes, fan theory wanking and connecting the dot of unrelated points. That's all.

You've got to admire the persistance and the creativity though.

[CavScout]

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

HAHAHAHA! It's all over guys. No more conspiracies. Now you can come and join the rest of us normal folk in pointing out the logical fallacies and inconsistencies of the ending.

Must be fun to laugh by yuorself... just do not do it near us  "normies" please.

You haven't bothered reading this post.. so do not bother answering... the official statement does not dismiss indoctrination, nor promotes it.. they promissed more explanation, period.

Remember children, with indoctrination theory everything supports indoctrination theory.

[hedara90]

blacqout wrote...

Ah, Angry Joe. Everyone's new favourite semi-literate homophobe.

While I agree he has said a couple questionable things before, he actually said it was great they included the S/S romace options in ME3

[CavScout]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

CavScout wrote...

Tamcia wrote...
At elast from the last games and the codex, all signs point to indoctrination.

There are no such signs. There is plenty of hope, wishes, fan theory wanking and connecting the dot of unrelated points. That's all.

You've got to admire the persistance and the creativity though.

About the same I'd give to those who see Jesus in toast.