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[Riona45]

Can anyone tell me what specifically triggers Alistair approaching the PC to sleep with her?

In my case, I have not slept with Alistair yet.  My approval with him is at 100.  I have not yet done his personal quest (Alistair's Family), but I am on my way to Denerim and will get that done shortly.  I was under the impression that it's just a matter of getting enough approval with him, but when I go back to camp, nothing happens.  Is it also a matter of completing his quest?

I am very much aware that I can just ask him to sleep with me.  However, I want him to approach me instead in this playthrough.

[Serenity84]

I think all the romances have certain triggers. If you don't choose particular dialogue options that are flirty or affectionate you can be stuck in the friend zone forever.

[Jassper]

For most of them, just pumping up their approval don't work. You need to talk to them both in and out of camp, and as mentioned, choose some of the more flerty dialogs to show your own interest.



Alistair gave my female character the rose outside of camp, so it doen't have to happen in camp.

[Riona45]

Serenity84 wrote...

I think all the romances have certain triggers. If you don't choose particular dialogue options that are flirty or affectionate you can be stuck in the friend zone forever.

I'm sorry, I thought it was fairly obvious that I AM on the romance track.  I got the rose, I've been flirty to the hilt, Alistair "adores" me.

So I'll make it clear: I am on the romance track.  Now, I'd really appreciate an answer to my question.

[Riona45]

Jassper wrote...

For most of them, just pumping up their approval don't work.

See my above post please.  Why did you get the impression that all I did was "pump up" anyone's approval? 

Alistair gave my female character the rose outside of camp, so it doen't have to happen in camp.

My question was not "how do I get Alistair's rose."

[Rhys Cordelle]

He won't. You have to be the one to invite him to your tent.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Alistair can be a bit stingy. You should try getting him to 100 before you try the option (unless you haven't unlocked it yet) or else he rejects you and you lose points with him.

[Finiffa]

He did ask me when he was on 94 approval with me so I think it must be something else triggering it. I did do his personal quest, "hardened" him and he told me he would look out more for himself. Maybe thats the trick to get him to ask you instead of the other way around.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Rhys Cordelle wrote...

He won't. You have to be the one to invite him to your tent.

Not true, on one playthrough he invitied my character

[Riona45]

Rhys Cordelle wrote...

He won't. You have to be the one to invite him to your tent.

Are you sure?  I'm pretty sure that's not the case.  I've even seen a youtube video where Alistair is the one to approach you.

[Riona45]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Alistair can be a bit stingy. You should try getting him to 100 before you try the option (unless you haven't unlocked it yet) or else he rejects you and you lose points with him.

And if you actually read my topic post, you'd know that I am already at 100.

[Finiffa]

Rhys Cordelle wrote...

He won't. You have to be the one to invite him to your tent.

Not true, he did ask my PC himself, see my previous answer to the OP.

[EricHVela]

Don't make your character push him for sex. He's shy and inexperienced when it comes to that. Have your character be a... well... be like a "gentleman" would be to a lady... except a lady being like that to a guy for Alistair. Don't forget to make your character kiss him. Have your character talk to him about being together (and not just oggling his physique and wanting to role in the hay). Have your character reciprocate his feelings about her. Don't forget to have your character joke with him on occasion (but not all the time -- and don't trounce on his feelings about your character for the sake of a joke).

[Riona45]

Finiffa wrote...

He did ask me when he was on 94 approval with me so I think it must be something else triggering it. I did do his personal quest, "hardened" him and he told me he would look out more for himself. Maybe thats the trick to get him to ask you instead of the other way around.

You say you did his personal quest.  That gives me a clue.  You are the first person to give me an answer I was hoping for, and I appreciate it--thank you very much.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Riona45 wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Alistair can be a bit stingy. You should try getting him to 100 before you try the option (unless you haven't unlocked it yet) or else he rejects you and you lose points with him.

And if you actually read my topic post, you'd know that I am already at 100.

I've had him reject me before at 100 as well, did you do the Redcliffe storyline yet?  Where at in the game are you?

*nevermind, thought someone answered the personal quest thing before so I didn't ask

Modifié par Onyx Jaguar, 30 novembre 2009 - 01:53 .

[Arhea]

Rhys Cordelle wrote...

He won't. You have to be the one to invite him to your tent.

Not true. He will indeed ask you to sleep with him. You just need to have him at 100% love and be patient. Don't ask him to join you in your tent first - I'm pretty sure if you had previously asked him that - he won't approach you - and you need to ask him again to have sex with him.

[Riona45]

ReggarBlane wrote...

Don't make your character push him for sex. He's shy and inexperienced when it comes to that. Have your character be a... well... be like a "gentleman" would be to a lady... except a lady being like that to a guy for Alistair. Don't forget to make your character kiss him. Have your character talk to him about being together (and not just oggling his physique and wanting to role in the hay). Have your character reciprocate his feelings about her. Don't forget to have your character joke with him on occasion (but not all the time -- and don't trounce on his feelings about your character for the sake of a joke).

Thanks, but I've gone through all that already.  I wasn't asking for basic advice on how to romance Alistair, my question was more specific.

[Finiffa]

Riona45 wrote...

Finiffa wrote...

He did ask me when he was on 94 approval with me so I think it must be something else triggering it. I did do his personal quest, "hardened" him and he told me he would look out more for himself. Maybe thats the trick to get him to ask you instead of the other way around.

You say you did his personal quest.  That gives me a clue.  You are the first person to give me an answer I was hoping for, and I appreciate it--thank you very much.

You are welcome

The reason i think that "hardening" him helps is because I did not do that in my first playthrough and he never asked me, I had to ask him in the end.  This playthrough I did "harden" him and now I think he got the guts to ask me first

[Riona45]

Finiffa wrote...

The reason i think that "hardening" him helps is because I did not do that in my first playthrough and he never asked me, I had to ask him in the end.  This playthrough I did "harden" him and now I think he got the guts to ask me first

Thank you, although I have no intention of hardening him.  Still, some kind of confirmation from a "second source" on this point (and any others) would be appreciated.

[Recidiva]

Through one playthrough, I never talked to anyone out on the road, because there are too many conversation ninja things that I wanted to be able to save and go through at camp and not randomly around the world.

You can follow Alistair's romance and avoid the question of sleeping together, and he'll talk to you in camp and slowly build up to it.

There are three major parts, him giving you the rose, your first kiss and sleeping together. He'll initiate all of them if you raise his approval and initiate the romance. In one game, I got the rose...last. So...there's that.

If you don't want to screw it up in any way, SAVE before you go to camp each time or start talking to him, and you'll be fine. When his approval is getting in the 90s, he'll initiate sleeping together.

I've also talked him into bed, but that's less romantic, as being told he'll "give it a shot" is a lot less romantic than being told "Here's the thing. Being around you makes me crazy, but I can't imagine not being around you. Not ever."

So play around with it, but save often. Honestly some of the joking responses get hilarious results, but some of them can result in a massive drop in approval because sometimes he shrugs it off and makes a joke and sometimes he makes sad Alistair face and occasionally angry Alistair rant.

Hardening him makes no difference, as coincidentally once he did the whole romantic spiel RIGHT after I hardened him up at Goldanna's.  The only real difference in the romantic line is his greeting to you changes from "Your desire is my command" to "Something you need, my dear?"

Which in itself is a loss.  Oh well.  It's worth it for Ferelden to have a decent king.  But I've done the romance twice unhardened and once hardened.  It's nature doesn't particularly change in the way it plays out.  Alistair's hardening will mostly affect other things in the plot, but not those cutscenes.

Modifié par Recidiva, 30 novembre 2009 - 02:19 .

[TrinityDivine]

It definitely has to do with the sister quest because that's when his attitude turns from "Adore" to "Love". I'm not sure if it makes any difference whether you harden him or not but that's an interesting test scenario so I'll try it out on my female dwarf which I'm playing through right now.



Yeah I know, it's so wrong on both counts but I couldn't help but click on the flirty dialogue with both him and Leliana hahahaha.

[Recidiva]

TrinityDivine wrote...

It definitely has to do with the sister quest because that's when his attitude turns from "Adore" to "Love". I'm not sure if it makes any difference whether you harden him or not but that's an interesting test scenario so I'll try it out on my female dwarf which I'm playing through right now.

Yeah I know, it's so wrong on both counts but I couldn't help but click on the flirty dialogue with both him and Leliana hahahaha.

Adore to love is only the difference between 99 and 100, I think.  That just might be coincidentally the approval change from doing the quest.  You're going to get a boost if you harden him or don't harden him supportively.

[Riona45]

Thanks for the additional comments.



Even if hardening Alistair doesn't make a *huge* difference, I couldn't bring myself to do that. I just don't like the idea. It'd be like ruining what attracted me to the guy in the first place.

[apantoliani]

I'm pretty sure on these:

- Complete Redcliffe village while saving Isolde and Connor via Circle of Magi (or at least a way that doesn't really ****** him off)

- Have X approval, it's not 100, but I'm pretty sure you have to be up at care or adore - You knew this though, just sayin'

- Complete Sacred Ashes - A little iffy on this one, because I may be mixing it and the former Redcliffe quest up in my head, but I'm thinking this is it.



I can't remember but you may have also had to have done his side quest involving Goldanna, I'm leaning towards yes. I do know however that hardening doesn't change the outcome on whether he will ask you or not.

[Xeyska]

Do his personal quest, it will appear after you visit Redcliffe at least once. Alistair will tell you he has a sister and if its okay to try to find her in Denerim. Visit her, and leave, Alistair rants on for a little bit and tell him that "You should know people look after themselves." (If you want to harden him, that is.)

If you don't want to hardened him, just tell him that there are people that still care for him. Also Alistair does ask the PC for some horizontal jog when he's at 100+ Love.

Modifié par Xeyska, 30 novembre 2009 - 02:24 .