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[Kloborgg711]

Now we'll finally get what we wanted guys:

We'll know the name of the planet our friends are stranded on
We'll know exactly how many Quarians die on the 30-year voyage back to Rannoch
We'll know what motivated Joker to rescue your squad mates without saying a word to you and then darting away from battle in cowardice

Finally, closure!

[MattFini]

alberta wrote...

Hold up people - I follow politics very closely and I do know from politics when one of the very top officials makes a statement in the form of a strong hint that the pressure has reached the very top of the food chain - then we can all rest assured the ending saga has also reached the top of the BW food chain as well. There is very active discussions going on behind the scenes about the ending problem - and as in politics the top usually acknowledges their problem in the form of hints. Mild blaming is the usual course of action as BW themselves did in this statement.

What is extremely important - is to acknowledge they have a problem which the BW statement clearly acknowledged - now BW is in active talks how to resolve the problem given their written end, and then how to move beyond that point and continue the Sheppard saga with another game to bring full closure to this series. If you read what they're planning from their hints this is where BW is now concentrating their thinking. It's very clearly demonstrated for the rest of his statements they see a full game yet to be delivered.

Well said.  I think this is the only way to properly interpret today's message, imo.

[Yuoaman]

April cannot come soon enough.

[Kaeos]

hotdogbsg wrote...

My guess is they're working on something to fill in the holes in the ending but won't do anything to the existing ending.

I fear this.

Good to know that Bioware is aware that there is a problem in the game but i'm not that happy. Let's wait for april to come...

[phototed]

Most likely baby steps, but they are making steps, nevertheless.

I will remain hopeful that they are doing something.

[LMShepard]

...and announcing in April...for $9.99...a 10 page codex entry talking about blue children, indoctrination, the space magic of mass relays, circular logic and big red beam blasts which ends off with: 'You're a Legend! Buy more DLC!"

[Asari23]

Ok

Modifié par Asari23, 21 mars 2012 - 04:48 .

[Asepsis]

At least they're finally going to announce something in April, I look forward to what they're going to say. I hope it works out.

I still don't like how they throw out what critics say (they don't matter honestly imho) but at least they are acknowledging our concerns.

[Porfirmir]

This message comes right from the top, and as far as I can tell, they're sticking to their guns and refusing to admit they've done any wrong whatsoever. The only thing new that I see is the April timeline; everything else in the message is a rehash of the same defense they've used before: that the game has been given good reviews, that only "some" fans are displeased, and so on.

At this point, I wouldn't bother looking for different responses from anyone below him, such as Casey Hudson et al. We're holding our line, but they're holding their line as well. The time has come to put our money where our mouths are. Come April, when their supposed olive branch is proffered, each of us must decide whether it is an acceptable response and then go from there. If their response is not good enough, you have two choices: you can swallow your pride and continue to buy BioWare, or you can man up and swear off their products.

In spite of their protestations otherwise, they must know that a very large chunk of their fan base is dissatisfied with the ending. But they also realize that some of us aren't quite upset enough to abandon them as a developer forever. They will do whatever is fiscally feasible to try and smooth things over and hope we forget that this ever happened eventually.

It is a difficult thing to do, but if you really want them to listen, vote with your wallet.

Modifié par Porfirmir, 21 mars 2012 - 04:49 .

[ADelusiveMan]

As long as they are working on the loose ends, I'm cool with this. Looks like progress to me. I look forward to April.

[Wowlock]

This is just one more step for our cause guys. Even the Co-founder took notice.

But that doesn't mean we will let this slide. We continue to persist and until we see the solid content they are working on , the line will be held !

I can understand their ''instincts'' to protect their interests but driving your fans away for it is never a good business for you.

And again with this artistic 'vision'.... The current endings did not even fit whole Mass Effect Series' Artistic theme...AT ALL. Soo I cannot even reply to that anymore.

So no, this is not over until we see what they have in store. And I doubt adding some texts to the current endings will make it better ( to think they will probably put a price tag on this ''special DLC'' )

[j78]

Cautions optimism . I would love to believe them but this could just be Pr damage control . Putting Dr. Muzyka out in front because a lot of us love and trust him might just be good PR.I say hold the line.

[count_4]

kleindropper wrote...
I don't know how it's possible for the same writers who made the heart wrenching moments they did through 3 games could think that this ending is good or makes sense.

It's quite easy to explain: The heart-wrenching moments were not written by Walters, the ending was.
And when the others protested he probably pulled out his lead writer status and forced his ending through. That last part is just speculation, the first one is meant serious, however.

[brian_breed]

 [quote]Thank you for your feedback – we are listening.

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[Mariyanna]

I'm disappointed with this message from Dr. Muzyka. Especially since it still tries to make those of us disappointed with the ending seem like some fringe minority. Look at the polls. Look at the money raised for Child's Play. His statement makes the people displeased seem like a small group of only the most loyal fans and like our opinion isn't as important because "more than 75 critics giving it a perfect review score and a review average in the mid-90s."

I also didn't like that in the paragraph where he talked about the content initiatives, he made it seem like we were concerned about our "journey" continuing. This isn't about us being upset *that* it ended. We're upset *how* it ended. The ending we were given made no sense in terms of the story and lore that has been presented throughout the trilogy.

The comment from Sebastian Sobcyzk in the BBC story on this (http://www.bbc.co.uk...nology-17444719) perfectly illustrates the point, "If this was a Hollywood film, and they had a test audience, they would have never released the ending like that. It would have just not happened." Movies are "art," but I'm sure any director and studio would immediately make adjustments if they were receiving the response BioWare is right now.

I'm not optimistic at all and, as much as I did enjoy Mass Effect 3, a statement like this isn't encouraging and makes me actually want to return my copy rather than hold onto it forever.

I'm giving BioWare until April 7th. If I don't hear good news by then, I'm never buying another BioWare game again.

Hold the line.

[Dark Specie]

Kloborgg711 wrote...

Now we'll finally get what we wanted guys:

We'll know the name of the planet our friends are stranded on
We'll know exactly how many Quarians die on the 30-year voyage back to Rannoch
We'll know what motivated Joker to rescue your squad mates without saying a word to you and then darting away from battle in cowardice

Finally, closure!

Hah. If this is all we'll be getting then no way in h**l they're getting my money for whatever "ending DLC" they're planning.

[ShepnTali]

@ pottergz.... Did you even see where I said 'I can be patient and see'??

[thebatmanreborn]

kleindropper wrote...

I don't know how it's possible for the same writers who made the heart wrenching moments they did through 3 games could think that this ending is good or makes sense.

That I can't answer.  Maybe ask them?

[Arbiter156]

What It shows is that they are listening, however at the same time they do not want destructive criticism (remember people we have to keep it civil).

No real details on what bioware intends to do at this point, however we can expect an answer now in April. He only criticises those who have been throwing blind hatred at the mass effect team particularly casey and mac.

Long story short we may get what we're campaigning for but we have to be patient and wait for an official word in April. Remember people, keep it civil and above all HOLD THE LINE.

[ArchStanton]

I wish Bioware employees were allowed to give their own opinions. No way that any liking for it is unilateral.

[Bebuse]

I hate arguments like the one he makes. In the long run, people are not going to remember ME3 because a bunch of critics gave it good reviews. Nobody with a brain trusts somebody who is paid to evaluate somebody else's work. People are going to remember it because of the immense movement its ending caused, and Bioware's reaction to the movement. People are going to remember it because what could have been this generation's Star Wars was ruined by Jar Jar Binks turning up and dry humping the emperor to death at the end.

Still, it is good to hear that somebody so high up has taken notice. It reads to me like he knows that any DLC other than ending DLC will flop (quite rightly), and has set his team to work on a solution. What that solution may be, we will have to wait and see. Phrases such as "current endings" are very, very telling.

[Blue Liara]

j78 wrote...

Cautions optimism . I would love to believe them but this could just be Pr damage control . Putting Dr. Muzyka out in front because a lot of us love and trust him might just be good PR.I say hold the line.

Agreed PR damage control HOLD THE LINE. Don't SIT back and wait till April. Keep posting on the Forums

HOLD THE LINE! 

[IronMadness]

"Our first instinct is to defend our work and point to the high ratings
offered by critics – but out of respect to our fans, we need to accept
the criticism and feedback with humility."

AHHAAHAHAHAHAH LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

[alx119]

ThePanzer99 wrote...

Sequin wrote...

The important thing to take from this is that they will more than likely not make an ending like this ever, ever again. And regardless of what happens, that is all I want to know. If I invest my time again, give it a meaningful, logical, brilliant conclusion. Thanks, Ray, for giving a statement.

^ this is a great point and one I hadn't thought of. I've reached a point where I'm ready to just write the company off and avoid thier games. BUT, even if they don't fix ME3 this will be a teachable moment for the company. When someone as high level in a company as Ray has to do damage control, they've REALLY upset their customers.They can still blow it in the future, but this fiasco should be an eye opener for the company. It makes me slightly reconsider walking.

They know they've upset their customers. Which is why I don't understand why not coming forth and say "Yes, we messed up." Unless he genuinely believes that the endings were perfect as they are. But I find that, very hard to believe. 

Like I said in the other thread, I can see why some people would like it, and good for them! But, It's not difficult to see how people would SEE many, many problems with them as well. Especially the diehard fans. Which is why we want a proper spectrum of endings (mind, no more colors please). Where your choices are really reflected with the outcome of the war against the Reapers. 
I can see the original endings as a "possiblity" but, if three different outcomes looks exactly the same with different colors, it's pretty clear you need more variance. Regardless of the philosophical implications or artistic meaning. 

So, believing that they are not that shortsighted, I don't understand why he has to undermine our opinion by giving out a feeling that the fans discontent with the endings are still a minority. When it's clearly not, and in fact are your most loyal fans, the ones you should preferrably care about. A casual gamer will hardly buy any T-Shirt BioWare. We, on the other hand, provided with satisfaction would buy the whole Normandy from you. 

[Sashimi_taco]

ADelusiveMan wrote...

As long as they are working on the loose ends, I'm cool with this. Looks like progress to me. I look forward to April.

That is not what people want. I don't want them to explain why their origional endings make sense. they are a slap in the face of humanity and morality and frankly the development on how humanity overcomes war. 

People want endings that makes sense, and they want different endings with different outcomes.