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[K0M154R]

So all in all he's alleviating our fears that nothing will happen, it's just we won't have a clue as to when it will happen and in what form it will take until April. Not that the DLC will arrive in April or anything, mind you!
Love how we are "... some of our loyal fans are passionately expressing their displeasure about how their game concluded:" Last I checked we were more or less the entireity of your fanbase. BUT, I can't complain that you will "directly address it.".

Hope... is kindled!

HOLD THAT LINE, SUCKAS! We're in this for the duration.

Though, I'm expecting a thick layer of dust on my copy of ME3 until then.

[The Smitchens]

How much you guys want to bet that on April 1st game sites will have all sorts of ME3 endgame announcements surfacing?

Anyway, he addressed it maturely and pragmatically. It seems very evident that they are more and more willing to accommodate things to alter what we have now, though we'll still have to wait until PAX it seems, as he's alluded to PAX.

Hold that line.  We're getting a reaction.

Modifié par The Smitchens, 21 mars 2012 - 03:34 .

[Zero.Gee]

So much rage inside right now about how this guy chose to respond to this issues its not even funny. However i'll leave now and refrain from saying anything specific until I get some sleep.

[LilyasAvalon]

VettoRyouzou wrote...

Coolfaec wrote...

Is it just me, or were our criticisms labled "Destructive?"

It hurt there feelings? I dunno it's PR 101.

My best guess would be that they're attempting to gain sympathy.

[count_4]

Marta Rio II wrote...

Uh, so maybe it's premature to pull my head out of my pit of nihilism, despair, and skepticism, but wow: "Building on their research, Exec Producer Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey. You’ll hear more on this in April."

Seems more concrete than anything we've heard thus far...

Still means they actually thought this abomination was a good ending which is far more depressing than the stupidity in the ending itself....

Modifié par count_4, 21 mars 2012 - 03:34 .

[MPSai]

Generic Name wrote...

dragonator89 wrote...

"I personally believe Mass Effect 3 is the
best work we’ve yet created. So, it’s incredibly painful to receive
feedback from our core fans that the game’s endings were not up to their
expectations."

well it was incredibly painful and depressing for fans of the ME trilogy to see how the last 10 min could literally destroy everything that they all worked so hard to achieve.  

Winning.

I mean I agree.

Same. I think much of the backlash is due to the fact we know Bioware can do better. We're concerned about their artistic integrity looking at an ending like that, which introduces plotholes and literally destroys the setting as a send off for it. 

[xeNNN]

Quietness wrote...

"Building on their research, Exec Producer Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey. You’ll hear more on this in April. We’re working hard to maintain the right balance between the artistic integrity of the original story while addressing the fan feedback we’ve received. This is in addition to our existing plan to continue providing new Mass Effect content and new full games, so rest assured that your journey in the Mass Effect universe can, and will, continue."

is the really important paragraph.

i really dont see how its destructive instead of constructive..... most of what we've done is constructive. 

finding the flaws, coming up with ways to fix them constantly talking amongst eachother of how we can fix it. 
other theories. 

the only way i can see its destructive is to biowares income some how. 

but the whole thing just smells badly of 


ah yes "fans"  people who spend rediculous time money and effort on our products, we have dismissed that claim. 

Modifié par xeNNN, 21 mars 2012 - 03:37 .

[GoblinSapper]

sirstikay69 wrote...

jedsithor wrote...

Why do I get the feeling that they'll just add Shepard to the paradise planet scene and proclaim "see, we gave you a happy ending!" thus completely missing the point about it all making no sense?

This.

TO be honest, i'd take that at this point. If your expecting a kick in the balls and get a slap in the face, thats a victory

[kleindropper]

Translation: "Sorry, we F'ed up. Please don't make our sales plummet until we have a fix in April"

[ExSturminator]

Keep Holding The Line.

Only way I see this not popping Indoc Theory is if by "passionate reaction...genuinely surprised us," he meant, "we didn't expect you to go for the pitchforks so fast!"

Obviously we're affecting sales or he wouldn't ask us to tell out friends that it was overall good and whatnot. Sorry Ray, I'm a big fan, but I won't in good conscience recommend this to anyone until it is as fulfilling and satisfying as you promised when I bought it. Great game, horrible ending; you'll just have to wait for our support until April when you tell us the big plan to fix things.

[jonal11]

I don't need a happy ending. I don't mind a bittersweet ending, but all I taste right now is the bitter.

Holding the line.

Modifié par jonal11, 21 mars 2012 - 03:36 .

[themac198]

Mass Effect 3 concludes a trilogy with so much player control and ownership of the story that it was hard for us to predict the range of emotions players would feel when they finished playing through it. The journey you undertake in Mass Effect provokes an intense range of highly personal emotions in the player; even so, the passionate reaction of some of our most loyal players to the current endings in Mass Effect 3 is something that has genuinely surprised us.

You's surprised that in a trilogy where as you say so yourself "which so much player control and ownership of the story" people are pissed off when all of this control and ownership is taken away in the last 10 minutes of the game only to be presented choice A, B or C endings.
Not to mention we actually do not know if the ending we have seen is actually REAL!?

[Pathero]

And yet they still don't explicitly say that they were of the opinion that the endings were finished when it went out the door.

He says they were happy with teh decisions, he doesn't say that it was complete. I'm surprised if they meant the end to be the end. The quality was so different to the rest of the game. /confused.

I don't think they should change it if they meant the end to be the end. It's their game they should have to live with the results of their choices.

[Optimus J]

Coolfaec wrote...

Is it just me, or were our criticisms labled "Destructive?"

No, all we are saying, all we are fighting for, all we criticize and all we applaud on the game series was carefully distorted for making the developer look less bad on the eyes of the executives.

But don't worry, since Ray and the other administrators are now INSIDE and closer to this history, it's a matter of time to see how they were manipulated, and once Ray see the wrote lies about us because he was MISLEADED, his wrath will show up.

I know because I already wrote ill about people that didn't deserve, for being mislead, and I was so MAD to offend them without reason, that those who lied to me were expelled by buttkicking. For goodness!

Modifié par Optimus J, 21 mars 2012 - 03:38 .

[tariq071]

Coolfaec wrote...

Is it just me, or were our criticisms labled "Destructive?"

Well they are losing money from sales, EA share is not rising and they are starting to feel heat from press which is more and more sympathetic to Customer.

So , yeah for BW it is destructive right now.

[RedNanaki]

Finally something! Thank you, Ray.

This does not mean we should stop holding the line; Do not falter until they specifically state that we will get a proper ending that does Mass Effect justice.

[Pathero]

Also, sooooooo much PR speak. Seriously.

[PeterG1]

Ray's letter is lucid and honest. I read it and I do think it's 100% integrity.
One thing that he and other devs have said though (although I think Ray makes it most clear here) is this: 

Ray Muzyka wrote...

Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey.

Game content that will answer questions and provide clarity. But game content that will provide additional, optional endings? Alternate endings? That might not be in the works. 

I'll be honest though: I do still think ALL possibilities (including additional, alternate endings) are on the table in Edmonton, Redwood and Austin. They are considering everything, still.

Look, (especially if BW reads this): when I beat the game last Wednesday, I was in the camp that thought the ending(s) was beautiful and emotionally rocking. I was knocked down and spellbound. But I will absolutely pay for and play any additional endings that become offered, particularly if I get an opportunity, in game, to run around a 
depleted earth, a damaged normandy, a military base, or, yes, a beach, and interact with my crew, with Hackett, Sanders, etc. Will I pay for some additional cutscenes in order to get an epilogue and closure in the form of a narrative ending? Yes, I'll do that too. But as I said, like many of you, I'd still love to see additional endings and would love to play "my Shepard" post-reaper war.

[RedundantAccount]

That seems positive. Let's see what they do. Holding the line and waiting to see.

[Titan_HQ]

Dismissal of anyone who doesn't like the ending and PR spin. classy.

[Zardoc]

kleindropper wrote...

Translation: "Yeah, we know you think we ****ed up, but we won't say anything concrete, nor actually address the various problems at this point.Please don't make our sales plummet until we have a fix in April"

fix'd

[Izie]

Acta non verba!

[count_4]

Somehow it seems they still don't get where the problem with this ending lies...

[Raezaiel]

It does seem like whoever wrote that at least has a better idea of whats going on that some game magazines. He didn't say "most" of our loyal fans, true, but some works fine and he did get that we liked the rest of the game, just not the last ten minutes.

The rest is a bunch of non information.

[morrie23]

Nice to get an idea when they will let us know how they are going to address our feedback. Still, if they just slap a new epilogue on the end, this will not fix the myriad of plot holes and contrivances in the current ending.