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First of all I have to say that I am a huge Bioware/Mass Effect fan since day one of the series. It really is a one of a kind in the video game industry. I appreciate Dr. Ray listening to the fan's comments on this matter. I tend to see the best of things and Bioware has manned up to the issue and is doing something about it. I sincerely respect that.

Overall, the Mass Effect series is my most played game and ME3 was icing on the cake until the very end. 9.5/10 is what I would give all three of them collectively. I will continue playing through the three of them for as long as I can. =)

Now as for the ending:
Plot holes were the major issue for me in witnessing the ending to an otherwise amazing franchise. Too many things were left out. I understand that using ones' imagination to mull over what may have happened to everything/everyone may have been the intent, but it was too confusing to really grasp what happened. My jaw dropped the whole time I watched the cutscene because I was like,"Ok, so what's with Joker flying away trying to escape the giant colored beam of light".....or...."Why is it my last crewmates are alive on a distant unknown rainforest planet after getting blasted by Harbinger?...sequal?...Idk". It's things like that that had me in a funk. War is war and heroes die saving lives, but I was so ready to see Shepard and Jack chilling somewhere knowing he lived or seeing little baby krogans running around Tuchanka holding shotguns. What was the fate of all the races? Did each race make it back to their home planet? Plot holes, the fate of the galaxy, and seeing my actions through three games helping shape the end of the series is pretty much what I believe everyone wants to see in the ending.

In the meantime I am going to keep playing and experimenting and I will be awaiting all the new DLC and content that will be offered in the near future. Thank you, Bioware, for listening to your fans and also for a great game!

One more thing...keep up the mass effect franchise. Even it it's without Shepard in it I know as a fan I want to see more of the ME universe the team at Bioware has created in other full games/epilogues/sequels.

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I have a question concerning Mordin Solus? Salarianets live about 40, and to it 37 or how he could invent genophage for 1300 to the described events??? there are 142 more mismatches in plots!!! I passed ME 1-2-3 several times and I do not understand screenwriters who so ridiculously and badly could make the operation!!!

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MindKiLLeR007 wrote...

I have a question concerning Mordin Solus? Salarianets live about 40, and to it 37 or how he could invent genophage for 1300 to the described events??? there are 142 more mismatches in plots!!! I passed ME 1-2-3 several times and I do not understand screenwriters who so ridiculously and badly could make the operation!!!


Mordin did not invent the genophage, he made a new version in the ver recent past because the Krogan were adapting to the original one.

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I am going to repeat what many others have said. Fixing the ending is nice and all, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE FACE IMPORT BUG AND THE ISSUE WHERE EVEN WHEN YOUR CHARACTER IMPORTS WITHOUT AN ERROR MESSAGE,  IT LOOKS LIKE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PERSON? The blog post does not address that at all.

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I Just don't get it, in so many ways the ending was the easiest thing to write. If you wanted to go down a similar route why not:

1 - Not enough war assets, not enough alliances. Everyone dies in one final stand on earth. Shepard dies after defeating the illusive man unable to open the Citadel. Watch all squad memebers make final stand on earth and in space and show the utter defeat of allied forces. Ends with the Normandy burning in space.

2 - Shepard wins but sacrifices himself in the process of saving Anderson/other squad member whilst opening the Citadel. Complete ending is the council erecting a statue of Shepard on the citadel after the war and helping to rebuild. your love interest looks on in proud grief.

3 - Anderson/other squad memeber dies but in doing so gives enough time for Shepard to win/open Citadel. Illusive man dead and vicotry for all. Reapers gone, last note is Shepard addressing all on the Citadel, "new age, not just for mankind but for all species." Finishes with a hug and a kiss with your love interest (maybe a blue baby running around if you romanced Liara or building that house for Tali on Rannoch - whatever you decided).

You can even incorporate the blue child. If Paragon, and reunited the Geth and Quarians:
"We envisaged synthetic life eradicating all organics. The Geth are now indivduals through Reaper modofication. Yet...they help you. They have enbraced organics. This event was...unforseen. You have proven that my solution (The Reapers) may no longer be relevant..." etc etc etc.

Now Im no writer but its not that difficult? Please give us the perfect endings we want...not just a different coloured beam.
PLEASE>>>IM BEGGING YOU
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The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

I'm glad BioWare took the time to write this, and I hope it means good news is coming in April. Expansion pack, please?

Eliantariel wrote...

It would be great to have a ME2 kind of ending where you have the possibility to achieve a happy ending with people alive or for those that like to have a more dramatic ending sacrifices on the way. So everyone is happy. I would wish something like that for ME3. Make the war assets count and give the player more endings and more control over the endings.

And please: make it possible to achieve the Shepard breathes ending with single player and do not force the people to play multiplayer or the galaxy of war game to achieve this.

This is exactly what I wanted too. There was a common theme of hope in the previous two games and their endings, and throughout most of ME3, that completely disappears in its final moments. And to make it worse, the ending that many fans consider the best is unavailable to players who don't use an online connection with their game. I don't think BioWare did this on purpose, but it needs to be fixed, and hopefully they'll keep in mind that a part of this group that can't or doesn't use multiplayer will have a problem with DLC being unavailable to them as well.


The Red Dead ending is best only from the standpoint that Shepard CAN survive...just impossibly and irrevocably separated from his friends and LI...but murders EDI and the Geth.  Not so great afterall.  The Green ending would be ideal except that Shepard is rasterized to bits.  Literally.  Everyone is alive except Shepard and the Reapers are not bullies anymore.  Maybe you could even sit down at a bar and chat one up if you could find a bar big enough.  

How about an...orange?...ending that combines the Green and Red?  Hmmmm?  Everyone lives?  Reapers, enhanced organics, enhanced synthetics all holding hands, singing songs?

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First off I'd like to apologize to Chris Preistly and Casey Hudson and the I've admired you guys for a long time and that I acted as a jerk when I made earlier posts.
An Ray hit on some valid points without actualy dropping any spoilers or breaking the NDA so I completely understand that.

But I still can't wrap my mind around the ending, now if I was a new player and really didn't know anything about the Mass Effect Lore or the universe then the endings was really cool and kinda breath taking. But as an Avid Fan and having played the ME 1 & 2 several times and even had to get my cd key for ME1 and its expansion changed 4 times from over use and HDD formats and Also ME2, I think I'm on my 13th play through and while I greatly enjoyed ME3's journey to the end and I am also on another play through but I'll probably stop just before the final push to the citadel on Earth.
The ending just deosn't meet with the correct ending for the wrap up of the universe that we as fans have come to love, cry and enjoy that we talk about it to our freinds, co-workers and anyone who will listen.
<Spoiler> That said the ending has plot holes galore and each choice makes Shepard feel like the greatest War Crimminal that ever existed, after finally making peace with the Geth and getting the Quarians home we now choose to destroy them and Joker who is now really happy, we destroy his love interest and leave the mad utterly in chaos by crushing him after helping him Just to destroy the reapers not to mention any Alien or Human in the Galaxy that has cyborg implants will die.

Then after you make a choice from the 3 each has a price to pay for the rest of the galaxy as all the Mass Relays have been destroyed and the fleet we built and it was pretty impressive is now stranded in the Sol system with no way home and I sure as heck aint telling Wrex or Jacob that they won't be home to see their kids born.

An on top of all that if the Lore we know to be true and from playing the very fun DLC Arrival in ME2 that the destruction of a Mass Relay would in effect cause a SuperNova wiping out all life in the solar system, so that being said our 3 choices really don't work with the added addition of the relays getting destroyed as each system has one and would in effect cause Supernova's wiping out all life including the Sol system and our massive fleet and the citadel.
Coarse one of my biggest questions is the system where Omega sits in it has 2 Mass Relays, the regualr relay and the Omega 4 Relay both get destroyed what type of explosion and the destruction from both would cause it boggles the mind.
So in essense Shepard does in a matter of weeks what it would have taken the Reapers 100+ years according to Liara to wipe all life in the galaxy with just the push of a button and surrending to the reaper kid and giving up our free will anc chucking in the towel.
That being said if I was a new player I wouldn't change a thing about the game as it is pretty awsome, but I'm not and I stand with the other players wanting ending choices that match the ME3 universe and able to keep some of the promises that Shepard gave as a Paragon and possibly become an Admiral and help rebuild humanity and the other fallen civilization's and closure and plot holes filled.
An I still support BW and believe that everyone will make the right choices and review the lore that has been built around the Universe, so good work BW ME team many kudos go out to you and your family's for the patience while building this game.


YES!  I agree with the idea, that NEW players to Mass Effect are liked the end (I tested it on my friend, who never played ME), he told me that ending like ending, nothing special. He was not attached to the characters - that the point. But when I expalined him about, how long and how many interesting things i did with my team since ME1, he understood me and agreed.

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Kaptin11 wrote...

I Just don't get it, in so many ways the ending was the easiest thing to write. If you wanted to go down a similar route why not:

1 - Not enough war assets, not enough alliances. Everyone dies in one final stand on earth. Shepard dies after defeating the illusive man unable to open the Citadel. Watch all squad memebers make final stand on earth and in space and show the utter defeat of allied forces. Ends with the Normandy burning in space.

2 - Shepard wins but sacrifices himself in the process of saving Anderson/other squad member whilst opening the Citadel. Complete ending is the council erecting a statue of Shepard on the citadel after the war and helping to rebuild. your love interest looks on in proud grief.

3 - Anderson/other squad memeber dies but in doing so gives enough time for Shepard to win/open Citadel. Illusive man dead and vicotry for all. Reapers gone, last note is Shepard addressing all on the Citadel, "new age, not just for mankind but for all species." Finishes with a hug and a kiss with your love interest (maybe a blue baby running around if you romanced Liara or building that house for Tali on Rannoch - whatever you decided).

You can even incorporate the blue child. If Paragon, and reunited the Geth and Quarians:
"We envisaged synthetic life eradicating all organics. The Geth are now indivduals through Reaper modofication. Yet...they help you. They have enbraced organics. This event was...unforseen. You have proven that my solution (The Reapers) may no longer be relevant..." etc etc etc.

Now Im no writer but its not that difficult? Please give us the perfect endings we want...not just a different coloured beam.
PLEASE>>>IM BEGGING YOU
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I had a similar thought.  IF they were pressed for time on the ending, or were struggling with how to wrap up a huge series like Mass Effect, it makes more sense to go the simple route like you outlined above, rather than come up with some vague, foggy, confusing mess.  It's almost like they tried to be too smart for their own good, but weren't able to actually pull it off.

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Thank you. I will wait with uninstalling my games until there is more news. But I'm not sure I could face a replay of ME3 with the current ending(s). Frankly I'm not sure which of the options presented is worst and for Shepard (paragon or renegade) to meekly accept any of them is totally out of character.

I need some variety, some sliver of hope at the end of a rpg to enjoy it. ME3 is a great game. It's not perfect and not flawless but it is a great game. Parts of it are probably the best game I've played. But the end of it made me feel sick and wish I'd never played it. I'm sure that is proof right there just how great a game it is. But I don't play games to experience that.
DA2 as a game had more obvious flaws and a dark story but there is some hope at the end. It only left me feeling empty, an emptiness I immediately filled with starting a new replay. And then another and so on.

As I said I will wait for more news. If the news are not to my liking I'll simply uninstall my games. I certainly don't demand anything but I do wish on a star for that sliver of hope.
Thank you again.

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jzackowski wrote...

I don't have a lot of time and this was an appropriate spot to post a reply to this news.  I don't know if this message will get to the staff at Bioware or read but after reading and playing the game here are my two cents as a consumer.   I'm a 30 year old married guy with a life and a career so the basement dwelling nerd is ruled out.

I haven't really played a game that connected to me like the Mass Effect series has.  I didn’t play Mass Effect 1 until Mass Effect 2 was out.  Simply put, I fell in love with the game.  I couldn’t understand why people complained about this or that about ME 1, I simply loved it.  It was like playing a movie.  I waited a while to play ME 2 after and I loved it as well.  It was brilliant.  After I played ME 2 I became a Mass Effect nut.  It was just that powerful of a game.  Great story, fun combat, the choices were amazing.  I simply couldn’t wait for  ME 3 to come out.  It was the first game I “pre-ordered”.  I can say that I loved Mass Effect 3. 
I was not happy with the ending for sure, if this was to be the last story of Shepard I felt I needed more.  At the same time it was the right blend of hope and melancholy the series meant to me.  The people’s anger over the ending is understandable, but the rage it misplaced.  These games were freaking amazing and a 5 minute ending shouldn’t ruin your life.
That being said,  If you folks due have an alternate ending you can bet I’ll give you my money for it.  The 80 bucks I shelled out for ME3 was worth every penny, every cent.  ME 3 is worth 10 games for 60 bucks and the readers know it.  By choosing to have an additional ending Bioware, again, is the hero of the gaming industry.  Your artists should be appaulded for their vision and your courage is swallowing your pride and giving players another choice.  Imagine how many movie studios would have like a do-over on a movie to make it more in line with what the consumers want?
Anyway, that’s my two cents.  Bioware, you guys rock.  Seriously, the Mass Effect games are my favourite games of all time.



"ME 3 is worth 10 games for 60 bucks and the readers know it."

Sorry but you don't speak for me.It wasn't worth the 80 for the CE.It was a ok game to me.Better than DA 2.That isn't saying much.ME1 and 2 to me were better and DAO is in a class by itself.That is my opinion.Have a nice day.

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My honest feedback is pretty simple. I love the Mass Effect series. I care a great deal about the characters, Shepard, and the universe as a whole. I never felt like Mass effect "is just a game." Saying that about an experience that is so in depth, fleshed out, and emotionally pulling is disrespectful and inaccurate. Shepard, to me, isn't just the player character. He isn't someone I simply control and kill bad guys with. Shepard is me. His relationships, his ideals, and his fights, are mine too.

It's because of that connection I feel to the series, that I am so disappointed with the ending. For the specific reasons I dislike it, I'll just link Angry Joe's top 10 reasons, because it explains thoughtfully why I don't like it. Warning, there are spoilers in the video so if you haven't beat the game yet, don't watch this:

With what I don't like about the ending established, I'd like to state plainly that unless my Shepard and Tali fly off to Rannoch to live happily ever after, I won't be happy. That's why I was fighting to stop the reapers, that hope for a future I cared about. A hope that gets crushed by the current state of the ending. In the course of the narrative, I feel that Shepard and friends fought hard enough to deserve a hopeful ending. Also because I gathered every last war asset I possibly could, and maxed my galactic readiness in multiplayer, an endeavour which feels ultimately pointless. Me, my Shepard, our friends, the galaxy, and Mass Effect as a series deserve better than the hand we were dealt.

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daftPirate wrote...

Starchs wrote...

Admiral H. Cain wrote...

Closure!? I don't care about no stinkin' closure!

The problem here is how astonshingly ridiculous and nonsensical the ending is. I was literally staring at my TV wondering why BioWare would write such a brilliant game for the first 19 hours, then nuke the lore and create plot holes large enough that entire planets could get through them.

Gah, I'll stop there...

EDIT: For the record, if it's true that the ending we got is meant to be taken at face value, I will be returning my collector's edition to Amazon for a full refund. You can call me a whiny, entitled brat, but I could honestly care less. 

Just think about this one thing before you denounce me: 

Imagine if "The Lord of the Rings" ended as Mass Effect 3 ended: 

Frodo gets to Mt. Doom and finds out that the fire is not actually fire but is the Architect from The Matrix: Reloaded or the starchild from Mass Effect. 

Go here: 
http://i0.kym-cdn.co...270/606/13a.jpg 


Damnnit you beat me to it


Disclaimer: I love Lord of the Rings, BUT

Are you familiar with 
http://www.howitshouldhaveended.com/  ? Look through those videos, LotR is there.
Have a look. The entire of journey of Lord of the Rings is a plot hole. Giant Eagles, 'nuff said.


Wrong place to discuss, but the journey of the Lord of the Rings is only a plothole in the movies. the books and Silmarillion are very well put together.

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Kaptin11 wrote...

I Just don't get it, in so many ways the ending was the easiest thing to write. If you wanted to go down a similar route why not:

1 - Not enough war assets, not enough alliances. Everyone dies in one final stand on earth. Shepard dies after defeating the illusive man unable to open the Citadel. Watch all squad memebers make final stand on earth and in space and show the utter defeat of allied forces. Ends with the Normandy burning in space.

2 - Shepard wins but sacrifices himself in the process of saving Anderson/other squad member whilst opening the Citadel. Complete ending is the council erecting a statue of Shepard on the citadel after the war and helping to rebuild. your love interest looks on in proud grief.

3 - Anderson/other squad memeber dies but in doing so gives enough time for Shepard to win/open Citadel. Illusive man dead and vicotry for all. Reapers gone, last note is Shepard addressing all on the Citadel, "new age, not just for mankind but for all species." Finishes with a hug and a kiss with your love interest (maybe a blue baby running around if you romanced Liara or building that house for Tali on Rannoch - whatever you decided).

You can even incorporate the blue child. If Paragon, and reunited the Geth and Quarians:
"We envisaged synthetic life eradicating all organics. The Geth are now indivduals through Reaper modofication. Yet...they help you. They have enbraced organics. This event was...unforseen. You have proven that my solution (The Reapers) may no longer be relevant..." etc etc etc.

Now Im no writer but its not that difficult? Please give us the perfect endings we want...not just a different coloured beam.
PLEASE>>>IM BEGGING YOU
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Yes! If the game ended that way, I would have loved it so much more. 

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Thanks Jobelous, for saving me the time of typing up something similar.

I hope you do get to talk to Dr. Muzyka at next year GDC. Please leave your phone on record.

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I have to say, I agree that this is the BEST game in the series...right up until the last 10 minutes of gameplay. The ending ruined this for me...it has ruined the entire series for me.

Praise -

The story up until the ending is just breathtaking. I literally cried at parts (being emotional and female helps...but I also feel the story and characters are THAT compelling). The situations that you're faced with as Shepard are agonizing, and so many of them are so easy to screw up if you haven't done things exactly right. It's compelling and exciting, and holds up the incredibly high standards set by the previous installments, and other Bioware titles.

The relationships are wonderful. I can't gush enough about how much I love the characters and Shepard's relationship with them all. And Garrus. He deserves special praise. His character really comes into his own in the third installment, and he's such a rock for Shepard, whether in or not in a relationship. I'm given the feeling that out of all the characters, he gets it. Everything, he just gets it.

The gameplay is fabulous. I have no complaints whatsoever there. Then again, in this respect, I'm fairly easy to please as my real concern with any game is the story. However, as a gamer who detests the old grind and level of the old rpg days, and someone who just doesn't care much for 1st person shooters, I find the gameplay/mechanics of this series incredibly easy to handle without being a huge button test of endurance or button mashing fest.

The dialogue system hasn't really changed much...and that's for the best. It works. It's superb.

So Kudos on all of the above.

Criticism -

Side missions - The fetching missions? A nice way of getting our assets up, certainly, but also boring and tedious. Some of them would have been nice with actual little missions like in ME2, (especially getting the exogeni scientists!) however, I can understand how that would have just made the gigantic undertaking of this game even more strenuous. And, this isn't a game breaker for me, just a point of 'bleh'.

Multiplayer - So far with my 2 playthroughs (yup, played through twice, gone through the endings several more times than that trying to figure things out...and that's only me3....I've played through the other 2 games over 20 times combined...) I can't get the 'best' ending without doing multiplayer. This is incredibly frustrating, and while you did a wonderful job with the multiplayer aspect of the game and how it relates to the galaxy & ending, it frustrates and angers me that I NEED it in order to get what is supposedly the 'best' ending. Making it a touch easier to get the 'best' ending would be much appreciated. Or maybe just more fetching quests...ugh. But, again, not a deal breaker, just a point of frustration.

Ending - This felt like it was left unfinished. There's no closure whatsoever. There's nothing that tells me what happens to my shipmates...nothing that describes what happens to the different races. What happens with the remains of the Reapers? What about the Citadel? How or does anyone get back to their planets? Do the Reapers stick around? Can Joker and EDI ever procreate? What happens with the Krogan and our choices there? So many questions are left unanswered, and if it'd even been a small fmv with a huge text ending like Dragon Age describing all the outcomes, I'd have been much much happier. Also, the stargazer thing? Really? What's the point? To justify all the different choices you can make by having some old guy saying 'some of the details are lost'?? Not needed, and a waste when that small amount of effort could have gone into making real endings, although I'm certain if it really is Buzz voicing the character...people must have been having geek fits of ecstasy. I know I would have. :)

I've played through this game 2 times, and bought the DLC for it. I won't be returning it or asking for my money back...but...the ending tempts me to do just that. All the choices I made were completely invalidated. I might as well have not tried. The lead to the end was a wild and fantastic ride...then it just puttered out in the last 10 minutes. I only keep this game in hopes that a new ending will be forthcoming, and will replay up until the ending, cause the rest of the game is that good. Any DLC that's not directly related to the ending...I won't buy it. There isn't any point, really.

Also, this experience has made me lose faith in professional reviews. Usually I can glean what I care about from them, and make a good assumption about how I'll feel about the game...with this...I just don't understand how it could get a perfect score. I'll be looking for fan reviews from now on to get a more accurate opinion about a game.

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 Dear Dr Muzika, forget those attacking you. the game was awesome. The best game i ever played. I hope you can do something about the ending.

There 3 option. First becoming repears, 2nd become synthesis, 3rd kill the reapers. I would like to have alteration on no 2nd and 3rd.

2nd option) Shepard remembered as a legend, as it is. Some epilogue/stories/short description of what happen to my crew members who survived in final assault.

3rd Option)  Shepard survived, and more than that. He recovered, married the the person he loved, and some children. And father son scene, we should have him telling those stories/flashback to his son/grandson.. perhaps something like that... As usual, 
epilogue/stories/short description of what happen to my crew members who survived in final assault must be included here.

Please consider our input

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Mixon wrote...
YES!  I agree with the idea, that NEW players to Mass Effect are liked the end (I tested it on my friend, who never played ME), he told me that ending like ending, nothing special. He was not attached to the characters - that the point. But when I expalined him about, how long and how many interesting things i did with my team since ME1, he understood me and agreed.


I want to respuctfully disagree with this. I picked up Mass Effect 1 on release day. I've probably played through ME1 7 or 8 times, and ME2 almost as many.  I intend to bring all of those characters into ME3. I think the endings are great.  I actually got goosebumps watching the ending sequence. That said, I understand that not everyone would enjoy the same thing I do, and I hope Bioware can add more options for people who want either want more added to the current ending, or even want a completely different ending.  Putting more choice in the hands of the player is always a good thing.

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Getorex wrote...

The Red Dead ending is best only from the standpoint that Shepard CAN survive...just impossibly and irrevocably separated from his friends and LI...but murders EDI and the Geth.  Not so great afterall.  The Green ending would be ideal except that Shepard is rasterized to bits.  Literally.  Everyone is alive except Shepard and the Reapers are not bullies anymore.  Maybe you could even sit down at a bar and chat one up if you could find a bar big enough.  

How about an...orange?...ending that combines the Green and Red?  Hmmmm?  Everyone lives?  Reapers, enhanced organics, enhanced synthetics all holding hands, singing songs?

I know, it's not much of a "best" ending, but I do want my Shepards to be alive at the end of this. I didn't plan them all out and play the games for hundreds of hours to send each one off to their death at the end of ME3. I'd rather stop playing before the final mission than let that happen. That's probably the better thing to do, because even if they do survive with these endings, there's no way they'll ever be happy.

The Green ending is the only one I sort-of like... based on the obvious comparisons to my favorite character.

Still, the choices didn't seem like something Shepard would do, considering his/her actions during the series. Shepard fought to stop people from achieving Green and Blue. Shepard also fought to stop the massive destruction present in Red. It's just odd that Shepard would be okay with these options now.

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Valadras21 wrote...

My honest feedback is pretty simple. I love the Mass Effect series. I care a great deal about the characters, Shepard, and the universe as a whole. I never felt like Mass effect "is just a game." Saying that about an experience that is so in depth, fleshed out, and emotionally pulling is disrespectful and inaccurate. Shepard, to me, isn't just the player character. He isn't someone I simply control and kill bad guys with. Shepard is me. His relationships, his ideals, and his fights, are mine too.

It's because of that connection I feel to the series, that I am so disappointed with the ending. For the specific reasons I dislike it, I'll just link Angry Joe's top 10 reasons, because it explains thoughtfully why I don't like it. Warning, there are spoilers in the video so if you haven't beat the game yet, don't watch this:

With what I don't like about the ending established, I'd like to state plainly that unless my Shepard and Tali fly off to Rannoch to live happily ever after, I won't be happy. That's why I was fighting to stop the reapers, that hope for a future I cared about. A hope that gets crushed by the current state of the ending. In the course of the narrative, I feel that Shepard and friends fought hard enough to deserve a hopeful ending. Also because I gathered every last war asset I possibly could, and maxed my galactic readiness in multiplayer, an endeavour which feels ultimately pointless. Me, my Shepard, our friends, the galaxy, and Mass Effect as a series deserve better than the hand we were dealt.


Your words convey the thoughts of many fans, thank you :)

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daftPirate wrote...

Disclaimer: I love Lord of the Rings, BUT

Are you familiar with 
http://www.howitshouldhaveended.com/  ? Look through those videos, LotR is there.
Have a look. The entire of journey of Lord of the Rings is a plot hole. Giant Eagles, 'nuff said.

Only in the film. If you read The Silmarillion it becomes clear, that Mt. Doom is protected against just flying over. But because it is not in the Books itself (and I'm not too sure about that),it isn't in the films.

@Topic: Well at least we get a more solid answer. still a little bit vague, but add some Twitter comments and it becomes more clear that they are planning something. I hope it is worth the wait.
BioWare: You've got the chance to set the endings right, don't miss it.

P.S. I can only recommend the Vid from D.I.C.E 2012: http://is.gd/1bZAI3 Hope BioWare is sticking to that philosophy (and most important: Admit your errors; And games are played not made).

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daftPirate wrote...



Disclaimer: I love Lord of the Rings, BUT

Are you familiar with 
http://www.howitshouldhaveended.com/  ? Look through those videos, LotR is there.
Have a look. The entire of journey of Lord of the Rings is a plot hole. Giant Eagles, 'nuff said.


The Star Wars vids are epic too.

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Lparsons7641 wrote...

We get it, the gaming "journalists" that get paid for good reviews love it. We know. Enough. That doesn't mean the rest of us are wrong. Or stupid. Just because I don't have a blog.

If pointing to IGN review score is your first instinct you've lost it.


That was my first thought as well unfortunately. Used to work at a publishing company and general rule of thumb was not to give a less than favorable review to companies that advertise with you, regardless of the product quality. 

I happen to like ME3 and thought it was a fantastic game. 8.5 for me. However, due to the ending, I really don't have any desire to play through it again. 

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Blacksnyder wrote...

morrie23 wrote...

Don't set your hopes too high folks:

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I don't care if they don't change the ending, all I want are answers. It's all I every wanted.:crying:


i dont i want real endings.

i dont want to watch them trip over themselfs trying to explain the plot hole ridden mess of an ending. Read what ray said he never promised us anything in fact he is trying to clam us down so he can deliver the final blow.

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Well said! This is why Bioware is great :D

Sure, he didn't address all issues but with 300+ pages of responses on the forums, how could he?

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Here is my take, the Mass Effect Trilogy is hands down the best gaming expereince I have ever had. I usually jump all over the place with gaming. Its almost like ADD with games. I play this one for a few hours then jump to that one for a few hours and so on and so forth. The Mass Effect and Elder Scrolls series are really the only games that I dont jump away from while playing. In fact, I actually played through ME 1 three times before moving to a different game and I played ME 2 twice before moving to a different game. Do I think the ending of ME3 could have been handled better, absolutely. Am I going to let that ruin the series for me? Absolutly not.

There is nothing wrong with expressing disappointment, as long as its done in a respectful manner. Unfortunately some ME fans have really crossed that line. I am actually shocked at how venomous some of the posts have gotten. So with all of the negativeity going around, I will simply take this moment to tip my hat to Bioware. You guys make outstanding games and even the best companies out there make mistakes from time to time. Nobody is perfect and no company is perfect. These games are still light years ahead of most of the games that get released. My biggest dissapointment is that this series was only 3 games long. I would have loved to see this series continue on and on and on. I am bummed its over.

Whatever you guys decide to do, just do it with your heads held high. Most importantly, dont let the venemous attacks get to you. People that make those sorts of comments do not represent the gaming community at large. In fact, its quite the contrary. Comments like that say FAR more about the people making them then they do the people, or company, for which they were intended. They show an utter lack of character and maturity.