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[GoddessLunatic]

Nobody is questioning the overall quality of the game. I just want the OPTION of having a fleshed out ending that CAN be happy in the sense that Shepard survives and sees the crew again. I'm sorry people are attacking you, but really, it could be fixed SO easily. If you release a DLC, it's the player's decision if they want the alternate ending or not and what was included on the disk can stay the 'official' ending. It doesn't have to be the mess we're currently in.

[medusa_hair]

MikeC99 wrote...


Re  the ending in itself: matter of opinion, and as opinion has validity. As a single ending ie without taking into account the repeated nature of the three endings, I thought it was cinematically very good. It's the logic of how it sits within the framework of the game that most folks critical of the ending feel is lacking. Well, that and the plot non-sequiters in terms of team mates etc.

Re Bioware need to be careful: absolutely agree. I've said before that I really hope Bioware stick to their artistic guns in creating the character/ nature of ending they want. 'Bittersweet' was in fact the Bioware word. Great - I have no problem with that. I really would NOT want Bioware to some some Disney-esque version because they got that that's what folks want. Look - I'm happy to not get what I want, but I'm not happy with something that on objective critical view is flawed, and that fails to deliver, in fact delivers the antithesis, of one of its central creeds: choice = consequence. And it's naive to interpret the pick A, B or C ending as choice=consequence. Yes, of course it does, but completely divorced as it is from the previous choice= consequence framework you have participated in, spent money on, and a whole lot of hours on ... no, not good enough.

In the absence of clear words from Bioware - and understandable I would argue - lots of folks haven't played yet, and if they just came out and said "Hey, we're going to change this to this, and that to that ..."- well, why would you buy a copy to play now, and why would you replay to an end where you know what happens? Bioware are in a very difficult place, but with all respect, whether this was just poor story-boarding, or a 'too clever for words' way to segueway into an always anticpated dlc ending, this is of their own doing.

I abhor the ranters and derogatory language; I also think it's way too easy to jump to conspiracy theories - but in vacuums of knowledge (see "this is their own doing") this is what happens.

It's not elitest, or fanboy entitlement gone haywire. I'm 59 this year, have job, kids blah blah. But I also have spent a lot of time critiquing poetry, prose, scientific and technical works. It's not about if I LIKE the ending or not - I will openly accept whatever the author deems to be the denouement he/she requires. But I also know it's OK to love something that's poorly crafted (hey, think MacDonalds!), and heartily loathe something that's good. And yes I really hope Bioware are careful, and work their way through the differences between like/hate and well/ poorly crafted and give us something well constructed, consistent with the internal logic established in all three games (up to the very end of ME3), and absent of the continuity faux pas as currently exist. I will be satisfied with a non-happy ending; satisfied with not having everything answered - but only if the non-answering is logical within the context of the game, not as a means to sweep shoddy plot links under the radar.

And advertise dlc at end of game: not a good call I agree; but not a hangable offence. Well, not where i live, anyway!!!!

cheers
MikeC

I agree with this...especially the parts that I bolded.  It's not about a "happy ending" as some sites in the outside world are reporting...it's about a logically constructed ending that flows within the framework of the universe established across all three games.  If they are going to do this (and I for one am all for it), they'd better do it properly, with the same attention to detail and logic that they displayed before the Ghost in the Machine made its appearance.  Otherwise it will be like gasoline on the fire, in my opinion. 

The DLC ad at the end was tacky, and especially unfortunate given that so many people were still WTF-ing at that point. It was also unnecessary since you know most games of this genre (and many other genres) have DLC that comes out later on anyway. 

[Dinlukerjmjb]

I don't understand why he's talking about artistic integrity. There's nothing artistic about making a non-ending so you can charge for the real one later. If Bioware plans on charging fans who are disgusted and outraged with the poor quality of their work they're wasting their time, and from that statement it seems like they do.

Also someone else had stated that they lost their artistic integrity when the first thing after the credits is basically and ad for DLC and thats true, all they care about is money and nothing more.

I have loved Bioware and their games since playing KOTOR and now I'm completely disgusted.

I have to ask, when did you lose yourselves?

[nazguljcg1]

Diablos2525 wrote...

3) You make the consumers who are complaining ought to be a fringe minority of upset players, when in reality the silent majority who have played games besides #3 agrees with us.

As one who opts to be no longer part of the silent majority, at least for one post, I would like to say this, and I'm sorry if this has been mentioned before.

For me, there were two main reasons I bought this game.  Reason one was the story.  After playing through ME 1 and 2, I really wanted to know how it all ended.

Reason 2 was two things that were said by the people at Bioware(and if I really have to hunt down these quotes, I will)  I remember hearing that the choices I made in the game were going to matter. Ultimately, they didn't  No matter what I did, and I've now completed this game twice, the ending was still the same no matter what I did or who had died during the suicide mission I still got the same ending.

Now I also remember someone saying that the endings would be diversely different and no one would be able to say they got ending A, B or C.  Well I guess that's true because we got ending red, blue or green and that's a lot different from A, B or C

So in the end I feel that Bioware misrepresented their product.  They said what we were going to get, and we didn't. 

I also have to ask, what was with all the plotholes at the end?  Did you really think we wouldn't notice?

I honestly believe that if they do create a new ending for the game that we shouldn't have to pay for it.  Let's face it, if Bioware had of delivered what they promised, they wouldn't be hearing about all the issues we are having with the ending of the game.  If they do create a new ending, in essence they are admitting they made a mistake.  Why should we have to pay for their mistrake when some of us have already spent 80 dollars on the game?

And honestly, for anyone to say how the critics rated the game is kind of silly when you think about it.  The critics tend to get their game for free.  I think it's the consumers  Bioware should be focusing on and not the critics unless they are seriouslyt going ot give objective feedback about the game.  Which to give it a 10 out of 10, is not objective in my mind.  The game does have flaws, and they aren't that hard to see.  But since you do want to bring the critc scores into it, I urge you to watch these two vidsabout Mass Effect 3 which are made by an objective critic;

http://thatguywithth...s-mass-effect-3   NSFW(contains spoilers)
http://thatguywithth...ate-me3s-ending  NSFW(contains spoilers)

And not that it matters, I agree wholheartedly wiht the review of the game he gives.  I too would score it an 8 out of 10 as it is a really good game and I had fun playing it, at least up until the end.  I am neither whny or feel I'm entitled to anything and this is merely my opinon. The ending was full of let down and plotholes.  Do I want Bioware to mae a new ending?  I honestly could care less.  They wrote the story and ultimately it's up to them to decide if they are happy with it or not. 

Edit: Out of curiosity and off topic, why does the Firefox spell checker nto work here?

Modifié par nazguljcg1, 22 mars 2012 - 11:46 .

[LogicGunn]

To the Bioware team.

I LOVED the ending, it was painful and realistic and very British-horror-film-esque. The "American Hero No One Left Behind" thing was never going to wash as an end to the reaper invasion. I am happy with it.

But...

I don't feel that you have delivered what you promised. I expected to play a ME1-3 play through with one character and then again with a different character and for all of the different actions and choices I've made to impact greatly the outcome of the war and the future of the galaxy, and indeed the ending sequence, not just the experience of some of the gameplay and missions in the third instalment.

From the interviews with your team there are countless references to this intention, to the divergence of the third game because you didn't need to round it all up for the next game it could and would go in multiple directions. But what it does is converge again with several endings in which the same thing happens. There is no real divergence, artistically or otherwise.

There is no question that you make some of the best games out there, and of course the creators have (as they should) the artistic prerogative of what goes on in their games, but to publically tell us to expect one thing and deliver something totally different isn't really good form or acceptable business practice. Had no one said anything in almost every interview about divergence I doubt that many people would be all that outraged about the ending, because it truly is a fitting end, even if the cinematics felt rushed and lifeless the overall premise is awesome.

So-I am not disappointed by the ending, I am disappointed by being promised one thing and given another, essentially mis-selling your product.

Thank you for publically addressing this, I really hope something comes from this.

P.S. I don't think a simple written epilogue a la Dragon Age telling us what happens after the war to each of our beloved characters that we have nurtured for years is going to cut it...

[Well]

Dinlukerjmjb wrote...

I don't understand why he's talking about artistic integrity. There's nothing artistic about making a non-ending so you can charge for the real one later. If Bioware plans on charging fans who are disgusted and outraged with the poor quality of their work they're wasting their time, and from that statement it seems like they do.

Also someone else had stated that they lost their artistic integrity when the first thing after the credits is basically and ad for DLC and thats true, all they care about is money and nothing more.

I have loved Bioware and their games since playing KOTOR and now I'm completely disgusted.

I have to ask, when did you lose yourselves?

Well in defense of BW they could of had Biff come out and given the choices.

[Calibrategoodtimes]

Fair play Bioware, fair play.

I loved the first 99% of Mass effect 3, had a really fun time. I was so disappointed with the ending compared to me1 and me2 endings. The fans told you it was rubbish and you have listened, therefore i think you have done the right thing.

However two points of concern!

1. Do the DLC justice! use the thought process from me1 and me2 to produce an ending of quality and intensity. I want to feel like I'm fighting for my life and my squad-mates who I've built up this relationship with. I want my choices to produce a scenario that if i made good responsible choices i will prevail. if i made bad choices the galaxy fails. I don't really care if Shepard lives or dies!

2. I am not going to pay a penny for it. call me a hypocrite I don't really care. I will download it, watch it on youtube or read it. I paid £60 for a product that represents the quality of the past + 20%. If i bought a Ferrari but it was quick as a ford focus unless i bought the addon to make it complete, id tell you to shove the ferrari up your pleasant place.

Today you added a few more war assets. however your about a turian fleet away from winning this war.

[FuegoTigre]

As a fellow who's been playing through since Mass Effect 1 and his now doing his darndest to finish Mass Effect 3 as quickly as possible, I can honestly say that my experience has been overwhelmingly positive. I love the detail and creativity of the universe as it has been presented thus far, and I'm enjoying my continued discovery as I direct one of my Shepard's to his final destiny.

I have little idea what this controversy is about yet, as I haven't finished my first run-through, but I'm absolutely curious to see all the hubbub is about; desperately trying to avoid spoilers while keeping track of this interesting community issue.

I will have to say that what I've seen from BioWare is a house that really cares about their fans and that warms me.

As I see it, however this saga ends, that's how it ends. You read enough books, you get used to tales that don't always end with everyone getting a slice of apple pie and a side of ice cream, which is COOL! That's Art, Man! Again, can't talk to much with having finished the tale but what I can say is:

Thanks for the story(-ies) thus far, thanks for caring about the community, and don't sweat the trolls. Internet is full of 'em. Like a land filled with nothing but creepy bridges.

[ljc1990]

I think this should be shared across the forum. Not all fans wanting a better ending are attackers towards the company.

[Calibrategoodtimes]

FuegoTigre wrote...

As a fellow who's been playing through since Mass Effect 1 and his now doing his darndest to finish Mass Effect 3 as quickly as possible, I can honestly say that my experience has been overwhelmingly positive. I love the detail and creativity of the universe as it has been presented thus far, and I'm enjoying my continued discovery as I direct one of my Shepard's to his final destiny.

I have little idea what this controversy is about yet, as I haven't finished my first run-through, but I'm absolutely curious to see all the hubbub is about; desperately trying to avoid spoilers while keeping track of this interesting community issue.

I will have to say that what I've seen from BioWare is a house that really cares about their fans and that warms me.

As I see it, however this saga ends, that's how it ends. You read enough books, you get used to tales that don't always end with everyone getting a slice of apple pie and a side of ice cream, which is COOL! That's Art, Man! Again, can't talk to much with having finished the tale but what I can say is:

Thanks for the story(-ies) thus far, thanks for caring about the community, and don't sweat the trolls. Internet is full of 'em. Like a land filled with nothing but creepy bridges.

The majority of us arent saying the journey isnt bad or the game isnt good.

Come back in a few hours when you have completed it and tell us if you felt satisfied.

[Pyewacket]

GoddessLunatic wrote...

If Bioware is happy with their ending, that is completely fine with me, just as it is fine that some players like it. But they can still release an optional DLC with more endings, including a happy one. That way, the people who want it can get it and those that don't stick with the 'official' ending already included in the game and nobody needs to worry about losing their artistic integrity. AAAAND more money for EA. Everybody wins.

Except for the people without xbox live.  They don't get to win.

[hatschipatschi]

I have to say Mass Effect ist the best game i have ever played!! This game totally gets me =)

The way they develop the story, the controverse decisions (save krogans or not etc.), and the emotional attachment to your crew is phenomenal. i really have to thank casey hudson and the hole bioware team for creating this unique universe and fantastic game. i really have enjoyed the time that i spent in mass effect!

But, as many others here, I am dissapointed that the ending seems to be ...unfinished. I am fine with the presented decisions themselfes, or as casey hudson said " bittersweet endings",i wasn't really expecting a "puppy-rainbow-ending".
but distroying the mass relays???thats just brutal :S and distroys the very foundation of the galactic civilisations and the hole mass effect trilogy, and therefor i dont really see the point in buying dlc's when hole galaxy will gets blown into stoneage no matter what you do. in my fist playthrough i just pretendet that i didn't see this and that i have maybe misunderstood something..sadly i wasn't.

The hint that shephard is indoctrinated when he/she meets the illusive man ( or in the hole ME3 game) is also very interessting and actually quite a good idea. But this hase to be better explained, this is not a subject that you can come up with in de last 5 minutes and than drop it immeately without any explainations (or the opportunity to fight this indoctrination or not - possible alternative ending- reaper cycle continue, very baaad-game-over-ending like shephard dying in ME2)

who ever came up with this "god-child-imagination" thing will get the golden medal of creativity from me -.- ...not very inventive, but i can even life with that.

but why the heck can't i ask this child these questions that are burning on my mind and just have accept HIS options. i have almost no option to interact in this dialog.
who invented the reapers? why do they thing syntetics allways have to rebell against there creators ( is there some kind of "quarian story" behind this, that maybe once apon a time there was a species that messed up with the syntetics and thought "lets never let this happen anymore").
and i want to argue with this child..... in my cycle my pilot is banging his ship and geth are fighting on organics side and help rebuilding the infrastructure for the quarians ( optional if you made peace between geth and quarians/made Joker hook up with EDI).
and why do all synthetics have to die when i kill the reapers? really ALL synthetics or just the geth because legion uploaded the reaper code? questions questions questions....

and why should i trust the god-child? it controlls the reapers! why should i jump into a beam , touch 2 high voltage cables or fire at something explosive, just because it says so and my shephard hase no second thoughts on that.

than the final 3 endings..(pick you favourite elementary color ) i actually like the idea behind these endings, but i miss some more cutscenes which explain the meaning of my choices for the galaxy.
for example if u choose the red one, you see for example in one cutscene the reapers fall down and the humans are celebrating ( as it is in the game) but on a different battle ground you see geth and quarians fighting and suddenly a geth falls down and a quarian catches him befor he touches the ground (maybe tali if she is in your squad) and asks what happend and than takes a look around and sees that all geths and reapers collapse right where they stand and fall on eath other.
or a scene where joker is distracted from battle because edi collapsed..

if you choose the blue one, you could also have a cutscene where shephard "talks" through a reaper with this humming voice..maybe even some last words to your LI, i dont know..

the green one is kind of..i dont know..reapers are already somekind of a synthesis between organics and synthetics..
lol maybe avia ( or what was her name again?)..this vi from the citadel, is becoming somekind of "alive" =D i dont know, the green one is..difficult.

that joker leaves the battle and takes you squad and LI and crashed on a randome planet by a explosion that doesnt even harm the savety of the ship ( the cutscenes from earth show that all explosion dont harm the weapons or organics etc.) is complet nonsense.
lets joker strand on earth, whats kind of more realistic.

i also miss cutscenes, where my choices from previous ME games are included (quarians/geth, krogans/turians, rachni...) there should be cutscenes that show the consequences of , for example, saving the rachni queen or not. maybe a human camp gets overrun by reaper troops and than rachni fight them back. or turians get hard-pressed ( i dont know how to say this in english) by reaper troops and than krogans help them. if you havent saved the krogans for example, the turians have to take heavy casualitys and so one...

uff i could go one like this for forever.. =)

2 last things:
when this old man tell the child the story of shephard, it almost looks like he could have made the story up, and it maybe never really happend that way. This works for movies, but when you have invested over 100h in this games and than MAYBE everything didnt really happen doesnt really feels good at all.
maybe he could get the story from this chip that liara invented! that would that up..


if you have reached the perfect ending (shephard survies/coughs at the end), let there be one last sentence from the LI trying to reach shephard ( if they survived). or maybe something like -stay with me, dont leave me! i'll find you..-or-****you shephard, dont do this to me again....pleease! (Jack =D) and than the credits roll and the rest is up to your imagination =)
if your LI finds you in time or not and if there will be little blue children or a junior with a impressive sniper collection is than a matter for the fanfics and your romantic daydreams..

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so..actually i didnt wanted to write a long post^^ but i had to write this from my chest (like many others befor me i guess)

i am (still) a passionate fan of mass effect, eventhough the ending is kind of...a bit messed up, but in my opinion this is easy to fix with a few more cutscenes and more dialoge options. there doesnt have to be a COMPLETE different ending (except for mass relays explosion and normandy on randome plante), just some kind of ...closure..with the dicisions that you have had made and a goodbye to the crew for who you come to care about so deeply.

the mass effect fanbase is very strong, and i am optimistic that bioware really listens to their fanbase ( i really want to believe this).

i hope that you didnt had so many problems to understand my english and please dont cut my head off, if my imagination of a perfect ending doesnt matches your's, this were just some thoughs i had about how the ending could be fixed.

#hold the line

[Emphyr]

Hi,
Its good to finally hear from Bioware, But I am not dancing on the table before i really see the patch does fix the problem. (Face Import issues)

More then that i noticed something. Ray Muzyka posted a blog about how much they care about there customers with comments closed and not a word about our problem.

Real short after the blog of Ray Chris comes in and is bringing news a patch is there. Well i wonder... I have a little theory about this. Maybe Ray was not aware at all about the import Face problems and after setting his blog he saw the comments and reactions that were posted to him ( and tweeted) and emailed

so my theory is that he then only saw it and was thinking WTF !! and then demanded a full list of all the problems with Me 3 ASAP! hihihi I can imagine that several ppl had to go to his office and ......
One question he surely will have asked.. Is this gooing to be fixed?
and NOW Inmediatly respond to the topic with 90k ppl posting in it and get out of my office !!! NOW!

You all take care
Regards from the Netherlands.

[0o-Constance-o0]

- Posted this in the Casey Hudson thread -

So this is for criticism eh? Sounds good. Far be it from me to tell
anyone how to do their job but I can definetly offer something
constructive in the terms of my own gameplay experience.

First
of all, I started off with an issue in the combat. Now, this could have
been a bug to do with me specifically but I've searched the forums and I
couldn't find an answer. The grenades didn't make any sense. I got the
feeling you could pick them up; they were always near crates of ammo,
they shined like the ammo, and the enemies could use them. However, I
couldn't use them, and the quick tutorial at the start didn't indicate
how to use them. Like I said, could be a bug with my game, but still.
Perhaps because my Shep was a biotic, but it could have been pointed out
in the tutorial.

Second,
and possibly my most selfish criticism but hey, you asked - is about the
romance options. I absolutely love LOVE Bioware games for their
romances but in Mass Effect there was always limits. For example, I am a
straight woman, and my Shepard is a self insert. Kaidan is my ONLY
romance option in ME3, because I didn't romance anyone since. And if I
didn't romance him in 1, I'm not going to in 3. Personally, I wanted
Joker to be a romance option, but I was teased with it at the bar in
Purgatory, and then had the whole EDI thing practically rammed down my
neck. I get it, she has a sexy robot body.
There was alot of potential to build on there, in particular towards
the end, when Joker points out that Anderson asked him to "take care" of
the Commander when she/he was feeling stressed. That was an excellent
scene made even better with Seth Green's voice acting, he sounded
genuinely pissed and frustrated and it could have been an exciting and
heartfelt romance. You can also convince them not to date each other
(even though they go and do it anyway) so I sometimes got the feeling
that the romance SHOULD have been there but was taken out last minute.

Also,
EDI could have been a romance option. EDI's character was so
interesting in ME3 and she could have been romanceable, perhaps
convincing her not to persue a relationship with Joker because of his
disease, and instead with Fem/Male Shep. That speaks to me on a much
deeper level because EDI's character is essentialy very innocent; she is
beginning to understand emotion and is asking herself some of the
harder questions in life. What is my purpose? What is love? Why do I
feel this way? 

If you want to make a world with where the
player makes the choice, NEARLY everything has to be game. You gave us
great, fun and endearing characters like Traynor and Cortez to romance,
and yet left Joker and EDI out? Why?

Thirdly,
Kal'Reegar. Introducing him in ME2 with the voice of Adam Baldwin and
giving him a "grunt" approach to the Quarian people was a great idea.
But killing him off with an e-mail in ME3 felt so, so cold and lazy;
lazily wrapping up his story, checking all the boxes marked "loose ends"
like that just doesn't work. Hopefully, you will consider DLC for him.

Fourthly,
the ending. Let me make this very clear, I loved the ending of ME3. I
was crying my eyes out when it ended. I was inconsolable for an hour. It
was beautiful, odd, like an arthouse movie, and since my Shepard was
bereft of any romance and grew so stressed out and frustrated towards
the end, throwing herself in as a sacrifice to stop the Reapers and
ending her life was a cresendo to an Opera. Between Anderson and The
Illusive Man trying to convince her, being so powerless and badly
wounded and having her pass out just before she reached the console, I
didn't want her suffering to continue and I was happy when she
ultimately sacrificed herself for the greater good. I didn't care what
happened to the squad, towards the end I was convinced they were dead,
and Shep wanted the same, wanted an end, and I loved how sad and
upsetting and liberating it felt!

BUT

And there is a BUT. Where was Harbringer?
He's definetly mentioned somewhere there, before the final battle. ME2
was all about his indoctrination. He is effectively leading the Reapers,
he's being built up for the entirety of ME2, and when ME3 comes along
he's missing. Where is the final boss, really? ME2 had a great final
boss, the Human Reaper. I'm not saying there has to be one, I'm just
suggesting that perhaps Harbringer should have played a more important
role. Perhaps a colony that has been indoctrinated and when Shepard goes
to investigate, she/he finds they have all lost their minds to it?

I
enjoyed ME3, I cried twice during it, once when Mordin died, and again
during the end. The animation has come on leaps and bounds. I played it
first on XBox and then got the PS3 copy when it was released, so
naturally I played ME3 on PS3, and importing my Shep into ME3 made her
look absolutely stunning. I am so happy you gave the Females a more
feminine running animation.

The dialogue seemed so much better in this installment too; that isn't to say it was ever bad,
I'm saying it has improved. I think what I enjoyed most was the
character interaction. All during 1 and 2, it really seemed to be all
about your followers and their battles. Especially in 2. But in 3, they
really care about how Shep is feeling, they want to have fun with the
Commander, make them feel important and wanted and it was such a
friendly atmosphere, especially when some of them are dying and the
galaxy has gone to ****, hell, Garrus is there for you to pick you up
and dust you off. I was so happy with that.

The mission to get
the Krogan on your side had to be the single most epic thing I have ever
played next to God of War. It was fun, the action was great, the
set-pieces were fantastic and the insight into Krogan history is very
interesting and subtly touched upon.

All in all, I really
enjoyed Mass Effect so I would urge you not to take my criticism as
insulting. I cried, I laughed out loud, and I felt a finality with its
ending that I don't get with other games.

Some things just need a tweak here and there.

And that's my take.

[Beta-Breech]

Just wanted to pick up on something hatschipatschi said with regards to everything being reset to the stone age again:

In that regard it seems like no matter how you play you still achieve the reapers goal. Surely thinking rationally any civilisation that gets reset to point zero will go through another cycle of violence and a war for resources? The planets and civilisations we see in ME have reached a point where they need to trade with outs for certain resources. Cutting them off from Mass Relays can only be a bad thing?

Modifié par Beta-Breech, 23 mars 2012 - 12:46 .

[Getorex]

Durendal33 wrote...

Also this was just on my playthrough so maybe it was different for others , but what on earth got into the age limit people? There was nothing in my game that warrants that 18+ rating I was seriously exited about that rating bc i thought I was going to see some serious alien boobs! But no boobs that I saw.I hope they weren't just being racist and the 18+ was because of the gay marriage/relationship references this is the 21st century for God sakes the game is set even later then that.Besides they are choices ppl make they don't have to get involved with any of it if they don't want too.To give it 18+ bc of Krogan princess is also wrong she was hidden by a kind of burqa and didn't offend anyones sensibilities either i would think to warrant a 18+.Also rather easy way out for you guys no need to invent a female krogan character and what it looks like but yeah.

Hey now!  If you romance Ash you get to see her in HER BRA AND PANTIES.  In fact, she SLEEPS in her bra!  Like MOST women I've known, they just LOVE to be in a bra 24/7.  

No idea what you get with Liara...does she wear a bra?

[Getorex]

Pyewacket wrote...

GoddessLunatic wrote...

If Bioware is happy with their ending, that is completely fine with me, just as it is fine that some players like it. But they can still release an optional DLC with more endings, including a happy one. That way, the people who want it can get it and those that don't stick with the 'official' ending already included in the game and nobody needs to worry about losing their artistic integrity. AAAAND more money for EA. Everybody wins.

Except for the people without xbox live.  They don't get to win.

There you go then.  Another good reason to go with a real computer rather than a quadrapalegic computer in an iron lung! 

If you ain't have a harddrive, you ain't got sh*t...and if you ain't got a megapower NVidia or ATI...you get the idea.

[IndelibleJester]

 I've given a lot of thought to the ending, and to be honest, unless it is an indoctrination or revival theory, it makes no sense. It completely breaks the original story line and point of Mass Effect 1's main plot, let alone all the other side plots and choices you make, and breaks the main plot line of Mass Effect 2. It literally makes absolutely zero sense. I have no doubt  maybe it made sense to the creators at the time - or maybe it still does and I just don't see what they do - but it makes zero sense to me. Did they listen to what that little kid said to Shepard? Did no one else think (some) Shepard(s) was completely out of character for not telling the kid thing to screw off and that the galaxy could do it on their own? It was out of character in general for most Shepards and even some other characters to just suddenly lay down and take it.

Modifié par IndelibleJester, 23 mars 2012 - 01:00 .

[Pyewacket]

Getorex wrote...

Pyewacket wrote...

GoddessLunatic wrote...

If Bioware is happy with their ending, that is completely fine with me, just as it is fine that some players like it. But they can still release an optional DLC with more endings, including a happy one. That way, the people who want it can get it and those that don't stick with the 'official' ending already included in the game and nobody needs to worry about losing their artistic integrity. AAAAND more money for EA. Everybody wins.

Except for the people without xbox live.  They don't get to win.

There you go then.  Another good reason to go with a real computer rather than a quadrapalegic computer in an iron lung! 

If you ain't have a harddrive, you ain't got sh*t...and if you ain't got a megapower NVidia or ATI...you get the idea.

*sigh* Poor console owners.

[Blue Liara]

I think the statement is a long winded way to say not that much. It does not give us any real answers. Are you going to actually change the ending or give us some dialogue explaining the current endings?

[mangionet]

The ending we have now feal more real but thay are like a betrail of everything Shapard stould for

[Cancer Puppet]

Wow! That is a much more satisfactory response than Casey's a few days ago. No offense to Mr. Hudson, but what he had said felt like a PR stalling tactic from my perspective. The good Dr. is correct; Mass Effect 3 is, on the whole, a magnificent game. What confuses me to some degree is why the developers were caught so off guard by the reaction that the ending received. Oh, well...news in April!

[GT500.org]

I don't know if this will be read by anyone of any importance, or if any of the other fans of the game felt like I did about the ending, however here is my take on it:

Firstly, let me say that I can live with Commander Shepard dying at the end. As nice as a happy ending might be, people die in war, and I don't think there was any reason to believe that Shepard should have survived most of the events of the three Mass Effect games. Quite frankly, I even expected Admiral Anderson to die, and I really didn't expect him to make it as far as he did. This just made sense.

As far as the end cutscenes, yes they were pathetic. Has anyone every played Deus Ex: Invisible War? That game had half-ways decent endings. Quite frankly, the Jedi Knight games had decent ending as well, even though they did not have the same number of endings as Mass Effect 3 did. Not only did different things actually happen at the end of the games I mentioned as examples, but the endings of the game were actually different, which encouraged you to play through again to experience how the game would turn out if you made different decisions.

Sadly, I cannot end this commentary with just that. There was something at the end of the game, before the decision is presented to Commander Shepard, that irked me so much that it literally ruined the Mass Effect series for me. The Reapers' entire purpose for destroying galactic civilization every 50,000 years is to prevent organic life from being destroyed by synthetics? The Reapers were created to destroy organic life in order to do organic life a favor? Does anyone else have trouble finding a shred of logic in this? Honestly, had BioWare left the purpose behind the Reapers as simple propogation then I would have been OK with that, however the twist in the story that they chose upset me due to the sheer insanity of the idea. I know they don't teach logic in school anymore, however please note that to destroy something you are attempting to protect is counter productive, and makes absolutely no sense.

I will conclude this by simply saying that I am glad I had already decided to boycott Electronic Arts, as I don't think I can buy anything else Mass Effect related after seeing the horrible ending of the game...