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[Pyewacket]

BrotherWarth wrote...

mangionet wrote...

The ending we have now feal more real but thay are like a betrail of everything Shapard stould for

Dude, grammar wants to be your friend. Stop abusing grammar.

Hey now, Warth.  Go easy.  There are a lot of people on the board who's first language isn't English.  No need to be derogatory.

[kato42]

While I can understand high ratings from critics, a whole slew of 'perfect' is very strange. As a gamer for over 30 years, I find it hard to accept that any game is 'perfect;, and as a fan of this series, I find this game the weakest of the three. It has the least control for your choice of the three, has the most linear of story, and is the most shooter like. For a game meant to be a shooter, a linear story is par for the course, but for a CRPG where the preceding two games had a high degree of player control, it is a poor design choice.

I guess I can understand the critics response, I've seen it countless times before. The initial high of a much anticipated title, and at first blush this game does appear pretty awesome, and combined with a great deal of hype, its easy to think its pure gold. I think we'll find in a while after the 'honeymoon' is over for many players, and the response over the ending has died down (now that Bioware has committed to doing SOMETHING), that those opinions of how great it is are going to fade. It'll still be 'good', but not 'great', and hardly a shining example of how to do a good CRPG when there are many other titles - such as the previous 2 games in the series, DAO, KotOR, and BG2 - to hold up as better examples.

For me after I finished it - and faced down the totally bizarre ending with its plethora of logical and plot problems - I had time to digest it a bit, and I started to realize that its lacking in many areas.

The story while pretty good - and the game's strongest component - was still remarkably unimaginative in handling certain parts of the story (the Rachni and endings being the best - or worst - examples of unimaginative writing). An over-abundance of cliches and pop culture references further lowered the quality of the writing (a few is cute, too many is tiresome). And - as stated - the least control over the progression of the story of the three. Even the combat felt lacklustre, while there were some clever parts, there were far too many parts where it just seemed to be waves upon wave of mooks to kill. Heck, I felt the entire battle for Earth sequence was rather repetitive and dull - or perhaps annoying.

All in all, I'm rather disappointed in Bioware, and hope that they will use this opportunity to think about what made this franchise so beloved as to earn the level of response they got, and what they did so wrong as to get the kind of response they got. And to look back on their older titles and what those did right, and what their last few releases are so lacking. Perhaps then they will get back to writing games that earn that kind of passion, instead of figuring out how to squeeze a few more bucks out of their customers with another mediocre DLC.

[mastergpo]

I agree that the majority of mass effect, all three of them, are fantastic games. and it is because of this fact that the ending of mass effect 3 is all the worse. it feels as if everything the player has worked to achieve over 5 years is destroyed in 4 minutes. i didnt expect a happy ending. but i expected an ending where the universe would continue on in some kind of galactic community.As much pain as I felt when I beat ME 3, I will trust in bioware on this. I will trust that they will finish the fight on earth and conclude this story in the ME universe.Good going bioware, I await news in April and I will place my trust in you.

[Johanna]

 "The reaction to the release of Mass Effect 3 has been unprecedented. On one hand, some of our loyal fans are passionately expressing their displeasure about how their game concluded; we care about this feedback, and we’re planning to directly address it."

Please understand, Dr. Muzyka, that it is most of your loyal fans who are expressing their displeasure.  Not merely "some."  Add me to the pile (my partner says to include him, too.)

"However, most folks appear to agree that the game as a whole is exceptional, with more than 75 critics giving it a perfect review score and a review average in the mid-90s."

To be perfectly frank, I do not care about reviews from critics.  I look to other consumers, people who have paid, for their opinion when choosing whether or not to spend money on a game or other product.  After what happened with Dragon Age II, I did not crack the plastic on my copy of Mass Effect 3 until my partner assured me that the story and gameplay were up to snuff.  Unfortunately, we had no idea what was in store for us at the very end of what was an otherwise supersweet game.

From now on, I will only be buying games day one from Bethesda and Atlus.  I no longer trust BioWare enough to buy their games without waiting to see what the paying customers have to say.  Because they're the ones whose opinions actually matter.

Modifié par pants witch, 23 mars 2012 - 02:13 .

[Mole267]

pants witch wrote...

 "The reaction to the release of Mass Effect 3 has been unprecedented. On one hand, some of our loyal fans are passionately expressing their displeasure about how their game concluded; we care about this feedback, and we’re planning to directly address it."

Please understand, Dr. Muzyka, that it is most of your loyal fans who are expressing their displeasure.  Not merely "some."  Add me to the pile (my partner says to include him, too.)

"However, most folks appear to agree that the game as a whole is exceptional, with more than 75 critics giving it a perfect review score and a review average in the mid-90s."

To be perfectly frank, I do not care about reviews from critics.  I look to other consumers, people who have paid, for their opinion when choosing whether or not to spend money on a game or other product.  After what happened with Dragon Age II, I did not crack the plastic on my copy of Mass Effect 3 until my partner assured me that the story and gameplay were up to snuff.  Unfortunately, we had no idea what was in store for us at the very end of what was an otherwise supersweet game.

From now on, I will only be buying games day one from Bethesda and Atlus.  I no longer trust BioWare enough to buy their games without waiting to see what the paying customers have to say.  Because they're the ones whose opinions actually matter.

Spot on, man!

I do not trust critic reviews at all.

[Jebediah Springfield]

Someone mentioned Harbinger, one of the best things about the series. Actually the most intense gameplay wise and story wise maybe. On the action side at least. So the lack of Harbinger was one of the biggest disappointments in the game.

[poerksen]

rarely go on forums unless I find some kind of bug or a facet of a specific game that i do not like. The very last portion of ME3 completely ruined my ME experience. I have no desire to replay it again or ME1-2 for that matter, because there is no reason to do so. The ending will be the same no matter what I do. Furthermore the ending (not endings) that I do get is nonsensical and dissapointing to say the least. The endings to the geth-quarian conflict and tuchanka were great, why couldn't some of that magic have been implemented in the final ending? Your choices actually had an impact on how those parts of the game played out.

http://www.gamefront...ns-are-right/3/ - pretty much sums up why I think the ending is the worst I have ever experienced in a game and that is not exaggerating.

Also for a game where you spend all your time trying to gather military assets etc. they have close to no impact on the "earth mission". I would love to have seen some Volus, Drell, Hanar, Elcor ships or troopers fighting the reapers. Ever since ME1, I had been looking forward to seeing some Rachni allies aswell, yet they ended up working on the crucible? Kind of expected the "earth mission" to be similar to the suicide mission from ME2, where you would incur losses depending on how well prepared you were etc. Actually see the allies you had gathered engage in combat. Just a small glimpse would have been enough. Loved the game, but it really went down hill after the cerberus HQ mission and it got horrible after i shot marauder shields in the head. Should not have done that.

The whole starchild scenario is just a bad idea, seeing as it completely de-mystifies the reapers and makes them look kind of lame. His assertions about organics and synthetics, chaos and order also do not match what is happening in my story at least, the geth and the quarians are getting along and joker and EDI are hooking up.
Would have preferred if Harbinger and TIM had been the final villains. The three choices you get are also really poorly thought up. The origin of the reapers would have made for good post-game discussions btw.
How would synthesis even work? How do you combine human DNA with machinery, just like that? spacemagic?
Joker and EDI having a baby together? Doubt EDI can even have children and even if they did, those children would have to marry eachother, because they are the only ones of their kind on their planet. Why would a race of "organic-synthetics" not create synthetics? Why would it prevent chaos?
Destroy: Shoot the tuubing and you destroy all synthetic life in the galaxy? why would that happen? Also why does shepard walk right up to the explosion.
Control: How can shepard control the reapers, if he is dead and why would touching some wirering allow him to do so?
It all just seems waaaay to convenient and the way the choices are lined up next to eachother only adds to that feeling. The first thing I tried doing was to shoot the kid in the head and walk in the opposite direction of the 3 choices. Why is Shepard even listening to this kid, he is saying "we" all the time, which makes him sound like a reaper. Is he trying to indoctrinate me or is he lying to my face? He also says it is his solution, not our solution?. The holobrat is completely unnessecary and he only helps to ruin the story.

Was hoping for a range of different endings. E.g. the happy-happy ending if you played paragon, the reapers win, shepard dies and everyone else lives.... and so on and so forth. Instead it is A-B-C and shepard always dies (unless you play multiplayer) which just does not fit into a game that amongst other things is about choices and the effect of those choices.

Sry. for ranting a bit. Just needed to get it of my chest. I really enjoyed the game, except for everything after "cerberus HQ".

Wrt. a future DLC. I do not want an ending DLC that adds to the existing ending by trying to explain it or adding additional closure, because that is not possible taking into account all the nonsense spacebrat spews out. You could potentially use the indoctrination theory or leave those endings for renegade players and add additional different endings... Just some ideas. I will not buy DLCs that adds to other parts of the game, because they are fine. The ending needs to be reworked.

The DLC is probably going to be "retake omega", which I could not care less about considering the ending. Omega will be destroyed anyways when the two mass relays in the system blows up.

[Wazehaze]

Jebediah Springfield wrote...

Someone mentioned Harbinger, one of the best things about the series. Actually the most intense gameplay wise and story wise maybe. On the action side at least. So the lack of Harbinger was one of the biggest disappointments in the game.

yeah, harbinger didnt have much to say, just shooting some lazerzzz...  It was also weird not hearing him say "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL". Made me almost miss him.

Bioware should have done atleast 5-10 different endings; Some "good"- endings
and some REALLY "cruel".. oh wait..

And atleast one random joke ending, something like shepard romancing harbinger

No but seriously, some real answers would be appreciated about the ending. Playing over 100 hours of "your own story" and getting the same cruel endings with the people who just "run trough" the whole game. Why bother making any decisions to begin with when you cant really change the outcome. What about color blind people?

Modifié par Wazehaze, 23 mars 2012 - 03:46 .

[poerksen]

Shepard getting hit in the groin by harbinger's laser. All the reapers turn around and look at harbinger and say dude, we may exterminate all advanced organic life in the galaxy, but that is going overboard. the reapers leave and the galaxy is saved.

[IamShepardsinflamedsenseofBetrayal]

Please bioware fix this. I dont need a happy ending just an ending that makes some damn sense and provides a satisfying finale to a trilogy i've come to love.

[Wazehaze]

poerksen wrote...

Shepard getting hit in the groin by harbinger's laser. All the reapers turn around and look at harbinger and say dude, we may exterminate all advanced organic life in the galaxy, but that is going overboard. the reapers leave and the galaxy is saved.

This would have been amazing ending

[cApAc aMaRu]

 This is my response, posted in link form due to fear of censorship.

Link

[Akaryu]

words are cheap act and you just may gain the admiration of your fans back.

[WarDog774]

Makes me regret,all the time invested in the series to end up like this.
It's like a "stab in the back" or kick in the nuts!
Fix it!

Modifié par WarDog774, 24 mars 2012 - 11:48 .

[Mercedes-Benz]

cApAc aMaRu wrote...

 This is my response, posted in link form due to fear of censorship.

Link

I agree with your opinion. I am not going to buy another Bioware game.

[WarDog774]

They destroyed the best series they ever created.The ending was rushed to much,all the decisions I've made in the previous series didn't matter at all.What was the point of it all then?!

Modifié par WarDog774, 24 mars 2012 - 11:53 .

[WarDog774]

The endings need more closure.nough said

Modifié par WarDog774, 24 mars 2012 - 11:59 .

[Pyewacket]

WarDog774 wrote...

If not.
BIOWARE HAS DIED 4 ME!!!

Dude, take your meds.

Modifié par Pyewacket, 23 mars 2012 - 04:29 .

[Hunter of Deathclaws and Tanks]

WarDog774 wrote...

I SWEAR!!!Ill BE VERY PISSED AT U!! IAM ALREADY NOW!!!AND Iam not flaming or any other BS!!!Iam just an ANGRY "LOVER"of this franchise($)%xxxx&game,that is unsatisfied at the very 100%!!!!! I DONT CARE WHAT U BWSF WILL SAY NOW!!!

I SAY!!!

BIOWARE!!!!

****ING CHANGE THE "ENDING"!!!!!
DON'T MAKE MY ALL YEARS INVESTED IN YOU,HAVE BEEN GONE WRONG!!!
U
KILL THIS!!!
U
KILL YOURSELF!!!

I hate the endings just as much, but your rage isn't helping at all. Just giving those who call us "entitled" more ammuinition to continue doing so.

[Pyewacket]

BrotherWarth wrote...

CAPS LOCK=CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!

WHAT?  IF ONLY I HAD KNOWN!!!1!

[ReshyShira]

Honestly, never defend yourself by pointing to a review score. We all know by now that you have embargo agreements with them that if they have a high rating you give them early copies. That translates into more traffic, which translates into more ad revenue, which means lots of mone.

[cApAc aMaRu]

James_Raynor wrote...

Honestly, never defend yourself by pointing to a review score. We all know by now that you have embargo agreements with them that if they have a high rating you give them early copies. That translates into more traffic, which translates into more ad revenue, which means lots of mone.

According to Chris what you just said constitutes abuse and is grounds for thread closure.

[WarDog774]

"I PARTY AT THE CITADEL ANYWAY"!!! With some:alien::alien:iens&get some drinks&tap some hot chicks to!

Modifié par WarDog774, 24 mars 2012 - 12:03 .

[WarDog774]

Modifié par WarDog774, 24 mars 2012 - 12:02 .