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[SalsaDMA]

Rache123 wrote...

On a slightly unrelated topic, after realising I didn't have enough points for the ahem "good" ending, I tried multiplayer for the first time in my life .........my humiliation is now complete. Is it worth using the ios app? or just say screw it and go with what I have?

The ending isn't gonna differ much, so don't sweat it.

If needs be, you can see the 2 seconds of cutscene difference on youtube.

[HAL and SAL 9000]

 Much of the money made on games now is in DLC. The initial purchase price barely covers the development costs, salaries, marketing and testing. DLC however is pure gravy for the developer as well as the publisher. Hence the advent of "Day One DLC" becoming more and more common. It is clear from this statement that BioWare is very concerned about the shelf life of ME 3 and the future of it's DLC. If people are annoyed by a product, there isn't much likelihood they aren't going to buy the bonus items in the long term. If you hate your car, you probably aren't going to get chrome rims and better stereo down the road.

Call me a pessimist, but this reads to me like BioWare is manning the buckets right now in their SS Mass Effect 3. Also, the consumer testing company (if there was one) should be fired. I have never seen a more ill conceived final rendering of a mass produced product in years. Welcome to the 21st century Ford Edsel!

[SimonM72]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

It's official. Looks like Shepard is still going to puss out at the last minute, no matter what.



Your customer base is giving you one last chance to fix this, Bioware, and you're blowing it.

If you don't do this right, it's over. It's done. You've already taught me not to trust pre-orders, Bioware. Now you're teaching me not to trust you. If alienating half of your customer base was part of your "vision," that's fine. You'll get to eat the consequences in the form of loss of future sales. I would have bought mission DLC for ME3, had we been provided with a destination worth reaching - just as I did for ME2, but it looks like that's not part of your plan. You can keep your "art." I'll be keeping my money in the future. I won't pay for pre-ending DLC which serves only to make the walk off the end of the cliff slightly longer.

A pleasure doing business with you.

It breaks my heart to /sign this, and for what feels like (looking at that @MassEffect twitter feed) what could of been for the potential of this franchise.
I wanted it to be bigger than StarWars and this original trilogy is absolutely core to what the rest of the franchise will revolve around.  I just don't understand that tweet considering the scale of not only the uproar, but also the sheer extent to which the community has tried to help you fix this Bioware.

Modifié par SimonM72, 24 mars 2012 - 08:07 .

[SimonM72]

Doublepost

Modifié par SimonM72, 24 mars 2012 - 08:07 .

[ragnorok87]

bioware will regret there decision not to change the ending. i was actually considering getting starwars mmo but now that i see this HELL NO. NO MORE BIUOWARE PRODCUTS FOR ME EVER AGAIN. i am going to the pawn shop and trading in all my bioware products today.

[Sir Fluffykins]

Personally I'll wait and see HOW MUCH closure and clarity the content they're talking about will add before I say yay or nay.

I'm exaggering, a bit, but basically ME3 as it stands doesn't have an ending, just artistic imagery that doesn't explain/close anything and if indoctrination is involved then the game really doesn't have an ending because that would mean the game is missing the "big reveal plot twist" act, the "real final confrontation" act and an "epilogue".

I never knew about all the promises the guys at Bioware made -about many varied endings that close your characters unique story based on choices from all 3 games and the dlc. When I read that I felt really strange. People were expecting to see Rachni fighting and Geth and Quarian side by side when they played and...

...just please don't leave the ME universe ruined like this Bioware. Promised greatly different endings and here I am unaware of what Biware said themselves, hoping you'll add enough to the game to make its only ending make sense.

That may be rather harsh summary but you don't promise people 3 games of choices will be taken into account and affect the ending, when you're basically turning most of the choices into War Assets and then using the War Assets to reach above the 5000 level.

Also please stop saying "some need MORE closure" -I must have got a bad version of the game then because I don't really se how the current ending that undoes everything the player has done in three games, can be considered "closure". Unless by closure Bioware were thinking like Javik "they're dead now, what does it matter".

On a lighter note, is Bioware getting fans who read their Twitter mad on purpose? I can't help but notice the conflicting statements "fixing ending, not fixing ending, changing ending, adding to ending", the statements where Bioware seem unaware their game ended on a anti-climatic cliff hanger where the trilogy finale should of been. To use internet speak, it seems Bioware is semi-trolling fans to get reactions

[Robhuzz]

ragnorok87 wrote...

bioware will regret there decision not to change the ending. i was actually considering getting starwars mmo but now that i see this HELL NO. NO MORE BIUOWARE PRODCUTS FOR ME EVER AGAIN. i am going to the pawn shop and trading in all my bioware products today.

The star wars MMO is made by a completely different team. And though it has it's flaws, it's remarkably entertaining.

[SalsaDMA]

Robhuzz wrote...

ragnorok87 wrote...

bioware will regret there decision not to change the ending. i was actually considering getting starwars mmo but now that i see this HELL NO. NO MORE BIUOWARE PRODCUTS FOR ME EVER AGAIN. i am going to the pawn shop and trading in all my bioware products today.

The star wars MMO is made by a completely different team. And though it has it's flaws, it's remarkably entertaining.

It's a decent single-okayer experience, when you can avoid the bugs, I'll give it that.

It has some flaws as far as being massive multiplayer, though, and if you need to contact their support it gets horrible.

[Getorex]

Great series all the way up until Hudson had a TBI and blew the ending. That or he handed the writing of the ending to a retarded 9 year old.

If you play the series from 1 to 3 and just stop before the beam, you get a fairly decent story. After that? Shot to hell into illogic, childishness, stupidity, self-contradiction. Shame really. Wont make a good movie with THAT ending.

Hey Hudson and Bioware.  I returned my ME3.  I MIGHT buy it again when it is selling for $10.  That's what it is really worth, afterall.  Well done.

Modifié par Getorex, 24 mars 2012 - 11:00 .

[Fox544]

Just to add my 2c. I'm not interested in an explanation I'm interested in a real ending on the levels that was hinted and promised since ME1.

If your family calls you one day and says your grandma died, does it matter HOW she died?

[rinoe]

What a stupid decision is that???? Seriously? How can you close holes in existing endings? It is like a swiss cheese. The smell will be the same....

It is a BAD decision. Bioware, you have your chance - TAKE IT and make things right... it is kinda last chance.

[Overule]

Here's the problem with you guys releasing "clarifications" for the current endings: that would imply that we've been primarily stating we don't understand the endings- as opposed what we've actually been saying. Y'know, that we don't *like* the endings because they're bad and make no sense. I don't want you to try and explain to me why the bad endings are actually great, I want you to give me a good ending.

[ragnorok87]

the mass effect 3 endings smell like ground beef that has been rotting in the hot 30 degress celcius sun for 4 days

[Dublinguy65]

Um, I am sooooo happy I didn't spend the extra money for the CE edition right now.

[ragnorok87]

Dublinguy65 wrote...

Um, I am sooooo happy I didn't spend the extra money for the CE edition right now.

me too i just got the regulare edition

[suvius]

i just hope they realize that it goes far beyond the 3 short cinematics. dont give us a few extra scenes or new variations on the same lackluster choice. this third game is basically saying regardless of what you did before now, follow this incredibly non divergent, linear story arc that BW thought was artsy. all previous choices are numbers on a list with no impact on the story. and u can negate it all by playing multiplayer and an iOS game. They promised us divergence. They promised us impact of the last few years of our choices. Anyone else have several playthroughs ready to be imported cuz we thought it would be different experiences? wrong.

I haven't written BW off yet. but this is the deciding factor. it takes more than altering or adding to the ending. its going to take a decently sized dlc where i feel divergence, where i feel immersed in the difference of my choices.

and just for the record, if its worth i'd pay for it. but if its not, the series and the team is dead to me. and thats something coming from me. i am their core gamer. i own all 3 games, and almost everything they've made, dlc included. i follow rhodes on deviantart. i still have my old computer version of baldurs gate somewhere. i think of a big bald warrior when i look at my miniature giant space hamster from space.

we need aid soon bioware... boo is... too young to have to avenge us

Modifié par suvius, 25 mars 2012 - 12:25 .

[ragnorok87]

bioware are liers.

[venom56321489]

Unfortunately I did buy collectors edition! It was bioware and mass effect 3 I was sure I would be pleased. I know better now! NEVER AGAIN! Probably trade it in on Witcher 2. Cant bring myself to play it or any of the other ones after that epic fail. Its like Bioware just gave up!

[IcyVeins]

Nice crowd control BioWare.

I'll sell the game soon. Then I'll get cracked one with your brand new DLC also cracked. It'll work for me since I don't give a f**k about MP.



@venom56321489
And yeah I'll do the same and get Witcher 2 instead

Modifié par IcyVeins, 25 mars 2012 - 12:57 .

[kbct]

I was thinking about Ray's statement and I wanted to play devil's advocate. I wanted to think about his statement from a corporate money-grubbing perspective with counsel from high-paid attorneys:

1.) Be vague.

Ray said in his statement that BioWare will provide "clarity" and "closure." Most of the news headlines (IGN, BBC, Yahoo, etc.) interpreted that information to mean the ending would be changed in a significant fashion. The news was shouted to the world.

However, change can mean anything. It can mean one additional scene or it can mean an additional one hour story. Based on Ray's statement, it's up to the news sites and the readers to determine what that means.

You have to look beyond Ray's statement to Twitter to better understand what BioWare intends to do. On Twitter, employees said nothing will be "changed." And that they don't plan to "necessarily alter anything."

So people that heard about Ray's statement and not about the Twitter statements might have higher expectations. That is misleading.

2.) Delay information.

Ray's statement said more information will be available in April. No one that purchased the game when it was released can return the game after the first couple days of April. If the information provided in April is not satisfactory, there will be no recourse for the customer. Amazon's return policy will have expired. So will Origin's exchange policy.

Also, sales drop quickly the first month. That means the first weeks are the most important for ME3 sales. If more people anticipate the game will be fixed to their liking, the more sales BioWare can expect.

Instead of clarifying their remarks now, they pushed them back to April which will provide more false hope to many gamers and more money in EA's pockets.

3.) Divide the fans.

We know from the BSN poll with over 67,000 votes that only 2% like the ending as-is. That means 98% don't like the ending as-is. While we know the vast majority of gamers on BSN don't like the ending, we don't know what was wrong with ending.

BioWare can use this lack of information to their advantage. It breaks apart the movement that wants change. We can no longer point to any evidence.

BioWare can assume that a bit of "clarity" and "closure" is what the customers want when in fact they haven't even asked us what would make us happy.

They may be listening, but they haven't asked what the majority wants changed.

Modifié par kbct, 25 mars 2012 - 12:57 .

[dalethfc]

It Seems like they Still aint listening. We Want "Proper" Endings,, not the s#~e we got. We want plotholes filled. This game is half the length of the first 2 and they were excellent and were true to the promise. ME3 started Well, then we see the rubbish at the end, Another thing that bugs me is, the LI, If these could be your last days, does yor LI only Show affection once or twice ? calling you Commander the rest of the time ? I wouldn't think so, you'd grab every chance you could get.
IF this Update does not sort the Endings then I will stop buying EA/Bioware, I already hate the Con with the locked 50% readiness Unless you play the MP/Mobile rubbish.

[ragnorok87]

so which funeral home do you think the bioware company will be going to when they die.... i want to know so i may be there and give a euology. i have a lot of comments to give on why they died.

[Carmin_Steele]

Yeah, I dunno really.. That's not much of an answer, and I wasn't aware Origin had a return policy for digital purches. I may return it, I'll have to think about it now. I don't 'want' clairification, I want a -real- ending.. it was terrible.

[ragnorok87]

Carmin_Steele wrote...

Yeah, I dunno really.. That's not much of an answer, and I wasn't aware Origin had a return policy for digital purches. I may return it, I'll have to think about it now. I don't 'want' clairification, I want a -real- ending.. it was terrible.

i had a private phone conversation with the most hated man on the planet next to hitler..... CASEY HUDSON.
he said that they wont change the endings rathe they will just add more coloured explosions. also casey confirmed mass effect 4 will continue the series. but he also said he REALLY wanted to step away from rpg style games and make either an rts or tetris style puzzler for the next mass effect games and dr ray muzyka and ea enthusiastically agreed.