To Mass Effect 3 players, from Dr. Ray Muzyka, co-founder of BioWare
#1801
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 08:12
#1802
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 08:30
Mixon wrote...
Well, It's sad but not whole world can afford to come here and tell about how ending disappointed them. Because of the language barrier or other reasons. For example, our Russian Bioware community (Bioware.Ru) have it's own poll/vote about it on the main page of website. And it's have more than 65000 disappointed votes also like thousands of forum threads, comments, ect about how it was painfully for them to have this ending. I bet every other national community have the same problem. If only everyone could afford to speak the language and come here to speak, the forum would not have survived... EA Russia keeps silent...
It'd be brilliant if you could post the link to the poll/threads just to show Bioware it's not just a small number of people. There's always google translate after all!
Edit: Just googled "Mass Effect 3 ending reactions" the first 3/4 pages are mainly negative reactions (not taking into account "professional" reviewers.
Modifié par Beta-Breech, 27 mars 2012 - 08:32 .
#1803
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 08:33
ME3 has a few hard choices, which are great. When it comes to the ending scene(s), none of these are reflected. This was odd to me. In ME2 we had the video sequences and consequences of the Normandy coming in to the Collector base have a few differences depending on the upgrades the Normandy was equipped with. Why not do something similar in ME3 to connect our choices and actions in the rest of ME3 to the ending? What happens differently? The current ending just does a blind comparison to our war readiness number for outcome. I see this as a great missed opportunity. This makes the ending seem unfinished, disconnected and not relevant.
Many of my other gripes can be addressed with further content. Looking forward to DLCs.
#1804
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 09:15
I'm in favour of a full rewrite, starting from when you jump into Earth. Then the strength of your fleet can actually matter, and so can the ground war, depending on what fleets/armies you have.
Modifié par BurnOutBrighter, 27 mars 2012 - 09:16 .
#1805
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 11:44
Beta-Breech wrote...
Mixon wrote...
Well, It's sad but not whole world can afford to come here and tell about how ending disappointed them. Because of the language barrier or other reasons. For example, our Russian Bioware community (Bioware.Ru) have it's own poll/vote about it on the main page of website. And it's have more than 65000 disappointed votes also like thousands of forum threads, comments, ect about how it was painfully for them to have this ending. I bet every other national community have the same problem. If only everyone could afford to speak the language and come here to speak, the forum would not have survived... EA Russia keeps silent...
It'd be brilliant if you could post the link to the poll/threads just to show Bioware it's not just a small number of people. There's always google translate after all!
Edit: Just googled "Mass Effect 3 ending reactions" the first 3/4 pages are mainly negative reactions (not taking into account "professional" reviewers.
Best that I can do:
#1806
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 12:01
Mixon wrote...
Beta-Breech wrote...
Mixon wrote...
Well, It's sad but not whole world can afford to come here and tell about how ending disappointed them. Because of the language barrier or other reasons. For example, our Russian Bioware community (Bioware.Ru) have it's own poll/vote about it on the main page of website. And it's have more than 65000 disappointed votes also like thousands of forum threads, comments, ect about how it was painfully for them to have this ending. I bet every other national community have the same problem. If only everyone could afford to speak the language and come here to speak, the forum would not have survived... EA Russia keeps silent...
It'd be brilliant if you could post the link to the poll/threads just to show Bioware it's not just a small number of people. There's always google translate after all!
Edit: Just googled "Mass Effect 3 ending reactions" the first 3/4 pages are mainly negative reactions (not taking into account "professional" reviewers.
Best that I can do:
Thanks for that.
I wonder what happens to asian community. None of them have be seen yet.
#1807
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 12:09
Drake_1000 wrote...
Mixon wrote...
Beta-Breech wrote...
Mixon wrote...
Well, It's sad but not whole world can afford to come here and tell about how ending disappointed them. Because of the language barrier or other reasons. For example, our Russian Bioware community (Bioware.Ru) have it's own poll/vote about it on the main page of website. And it's have more than 65000 disappointed votes also like thousands of forum threads, comments, ect about how it was painfully for them to have this ending. I bet every other national community have the same problem. If only everyone could afford to speak the language and come here to speak, the forum would not have survived... EA Russia keeps silent...
It'd be brilliant if you could post the link to the poll/threads just to show Bioware it's not just a small number of people. There's always google translate after all!
Edit: Just googled "Mass Effect 3 ending reactions" the first 3/4 pages are mainly negative reactions (not taking into account "professional" reviewers.
Best that I can do:
Thanks for that.
I wonder what happens to asian community. None of them have be seen yet.
I'm sure Bioware have a strong research program that would find out.
#1808
Guest_BrotherWarth_*
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 01:02
Guest_BrotherWarth_*
#1809
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 02:04
#1810
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 03:31
#1811
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 03:33
#1812
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 04:49
I don't need a happy ending- a bittersweet sacrifice works fine for me, but I want a ending that provides closure, reflects something of my choices during the game, AND MAKES SENSE.
From the moment Starchild showed up, I felt the game had run off the rails. No need to repeat the many flaws people have pointed out. The whole thing felt cheap and rushed, thrown together at the last minute without much thought.
This was the first time I ever preordered a game. Normally I wait a few weeks to see what the feedback from players is, and to give the developer a chance to patch any missed bugs. I'm afraid, as things stand, it will be the last.
Perfection is not required. Some degree of satisfaction is.
#1813
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 04:52
jamming777 wrote...
I'd like to add my negative opinion, based on a friend's recorded endings. There will not be purchase of ME in my future without a major revision by DLC. I loyally purchased ME1, ME2, and the Dragon Age Series, which has provided many hours of play. Many of the DLC and Bonus Items have been purchased with my limited funds. The worse part of this issue it has broken my trust in Bioware, I will no longer be buying early. Please regain my trust in your products, Thanks.
I completely agree. Purchased as an honest customer first and the second part of the game. But three of the disappointment on the day the dlc, then spoilers about the unfortunate ending. Lost the desire to spend my limited money on the game.The only version of the revision of optimistic or (and) logical end of the game.
#1814
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 05:29
#1815
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 05:33
jamming777 wrote...
I'd like to add my negative opinion, based on a friend's recorded endings. There will not be purchase of ME in my future without a major revision by DLC. I loyally purchased ME1, ME2, and the Dragon Age Series, which has provided many hours of play. Many of the DLC and Bonus Items have been purchased with my limited funds. The worse part of this issue it has broken my trust in Bioware, I will no longer be buying early. Please regain my trust in your products, Thanks.
Well, even if Bioware does release a fix or game update that totally rewrites the ending, or if they release a DLC to fix the ending (expanding on GIBBERISH is not going to work), they still wont regain my trust enough to EVER get me to pre-order again.
I never pre-ordered any game before ME3. I will not ever EVER pre-order any game from any developer ever again. I will wait a week or so post-general release, read the PLAYER reviews (ignore the "pro" reviews) and THEN decide if I buy or not.
Good move Bioware. You are probably saving me a fair amount of coin so I should maybe thank you for that. Lotta games I wont end up buying on spec.
Modifié par Getorex, 27 mars 2012 - 05:34 .
#1816
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 05:55
Between real life friends and "online friends" who I play other XBoxLive games with, I know of about 20 people who also played ME3. And every single one of them hated the ending as much as I did. I'm the only one of my group of friends who posts on this forum. Yet, some folks defending the game will suggest that these friends of mine liked it, simply because they haven't posted their hatred for the ending on here.
So while I'm not saying that everyone who doesn't post on the forums also hated the ending, I also think it's naive for those defending the ending to automatically assume that those who don't post their anger on here actually were happy with it. Me and my friends are a small sampling proof of the fallacy of that.
#1817
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 06:15
Artemis_Entrari wrote...
For those who believe that the only folks who hated the endings are the "vocal" ones on these forums, and that the rest of the people who bought ME3 that don't post on here loved it, I can add my own personal situation to say I don't believe that to be the case.
Between real life friends and "online friends" who I play other XBoxLive games with, I know of about 20 people who also played ME3. And every single one of them hated the ending as much as I did. I'm the only one of my group of friends who posts on this forum. Yet, some folks defending the game will suggest that these friends of mine liked it, simply because they haven't posted their hatred for the ending on here.
So while I'm not saying that everyone who doesn't post on the forums also hated the ending, I also think it's naive for those defending the ending to automatically assume that those who don't post their anger on here actually were happy with it. Me and my friends are a small sampling proof of the fallacy of that.
Indeed.
My sister and father are ME fans. I got them hooked on the series back with ME1. They couldn't wait for ME3 to come out...now they are done with it and hate it. They HATE the ending and see no reason to replay the game, or even any of the previous games. The ME3 ending murders the entire franchise. It destroys any and all interest in playing any of the previous games ever again along with eliminating any desire to play ME3 again.
They don't post online (they also don't like and don't do multiplayer...EVER...so they weren't happy about the requirement to play MP to get full points to even get a hint of a "good" ending with Shepard alive (although to get there your Shepard has to commit genocide on a scale beyond what Hitler and Stalin and Pol Pot could ever aspire to TOGETHER).
#1818
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 07:31
Modifié par leki_se, 27 mars 2012 - 07:32 .
#1819
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 07:36
Not only has Mass Effect entirely jumped the shark, we can now debate whether it was DA2 or ME3 that really represented Bioware jumping the shark.
It's all downhill from here, folks.
Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 27 mars 2012 - 07:40 .
#1820
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 07:43
Artemis_Entrari wrote...
So while I'm not saying that everyone who doesn't post on the forums also hated the ending, I also think it's naive for those defending the ending to automatically assume that those who don't post their anger on here actually were happy with it. Me and my friends are a small sampling proof of the fallacy of that.
I think what is more likely the case, is that the vast majority of people not posting on the forums to say they loved it or hated it really don't care that much. To them this is a game, a frivolous way to pass a few hours, nothing more. The ending may have been a let down, but to them it just isn't an issue. We can't assume that the passion we have for Mass Effect is shared by everyone who has bought the game...because it's not!
#1821
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 08:27
Many rpg aspects seem to be declining.
Many of the squadmates just had the zaeed or kasumi type dialogue no wheel just hit a button.
citadel exploration was smaller, and planet exploration smaller.
Most decisions seemed to be narrowed (love interest) if you don’t pick A, B, OR C love interest fade to black.
#1822
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 08:46
I always loved games from Bioware and waited for them... and now I'm afraid what will happend in the end. I'll become afraid of the ends of their games. The 2 acts of DA2 was very good, Act 3 not. Almost all of ME3 was very good, the ending... eh, was just crap.
I think they need to realize, that it is the wrong way to go... Fight for the time you need to complete your games, or you will loose all customers!
#1823
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 08:59
#1824
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 09:21
I want a good ending, resonble, something I want to see again and again - the reason to play again and feel good with it.
The worse case scenario - we do not get fixed ending, then DLC will not sell, then they abandon the game. IT IS NOT WHAT I WANT... but I afraid it could end like this, if the 'artistic integrity' wins. And it will be disaster.
#1825
Posté 27 mars 2012 - 09:40
RukiaKuchki wrote...
Artemis_Entrari wrote...
So while I'm not saying that everyone who doesn't post on the forums also hated the ending, I also think it's naive for those defending the ending to automatically assume that those who don't post their anger on here actually were happy with it. Me and my friends are a small sampling proof of the fallacy of that.
I think what is more likely the case, is that the vast majority of people not posting on the forums to say they loved it or hated it really don't care that much. To them this is a game, a frivolous way to pass a few hours, nothing more. The ending may have been a let down, but to them it just isn't an issue. We can't assume that the passion we have for Mass Effect is shared by everyone who has bought the game...because it's not!
Too true.





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