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[pixelface]

I decided to play mass effect 1 and 2 once again to import it to mass effect 3, and i did. It was a fascinating journey playing all three games, but just like the majority of the fans out there, the ending left me confused, that being said, if this was your plan all along and Shepard was really indoctrinated than it would be a fantastic ending, and Bioware would become a genius for not only making one of the best ending but for indoctrinating the fans themselves.

[PaxtonFetel]

"Something is rotten in the state of Bioware."
The Tragical Historie of Shepard, Prince of Mass Effect

[Xarathox]

Ratsneve wrote...

Cheburator987 wrote...

Ratsneve wrote...

I just started ME3 tonight and at the same time discovered this ending games 'problem'.
...
To that end though I am wondering how important the only current DLC, "From Ashes" for $10 would be to play? Like all my gaming I am playing Single Player, for the Story, and only one-time through the game.

The DLC is already in the game.All you need to do to activate it is to change a few lines in Coascaled.
The same goes for the bonus weapons.Take that,Bioware!!!
You think people are suckers???Think again!!!

I'm the one asking for clarity on the importance of this DLC to my game and I just started the game!  "The DLC is already in the game." ... and "Change a few lines in Coascaled?"  What are you talking about??  Is this DLC content important to the 'story depth' and will it play any part in mitigating the 'problem(s)' with the game's ending?

Short answer: No. "From Ashes" is just fluff.

To answer the other question: "From Ashes" already exists on your game disk. EA/BW just locked you out of it, forcing players to pay $10 for a digital "key" to unlock it. PC players can, however, just move certain files around and unlock it themselves.

[Lordambitious]

This is a very well thought out and in depth analysis of why the endings are broken.

some select quotes: Your plan is to introduce and then resolve an entirely new central conflict which supersedes the old one in importance and complexity over the course of 14 lines of dialogue with a character we've never met before?

"We don't even get to stop the Reapers under our own steam. Instead, hologram kid *lets* us do it, practically as an act of charity. Any sense of control, agency, or accomplishment is gone..."

[GeneralM13]

i only have one comment to be honest:
Tell EA to get that stick removed from their behinds and get them to release Mass Effect 3 on steam also.
The DLC can be bought via Bioware right? so steam doesnt have to manage that. (just like with Mass Effect 2)
I just is stupid to release 2 parts of a Trilogy on all platforms and leave the third part out of Steam purely to promote Origin.
I Hate origin.
It makes my computer act up.
Iwill NOT install it.
Iwill NEVER use it.
I have Mass Effect 1 and 2 on Steam... Bought all the DLC from bioware. and it's running almost perfectly
(the login screen hates my firewall)


just to clarify my point. (and i am prolly not the only person saying this):
No Mass Effect 3 on Steam = NO Sale for EA.
And that goes for ALL games that are Origin Only.


those where my 2 cents. if anyone feels attacked by my words, i am sorry.

-  General M-13

Modifié par GeneralM13, 02 avril 2012 - 09:04 .

[Escocido]

Yeah, lots of words that say nothing at all.

Look, I`m a big fan of ME, but not a specially rabid one. I disliked the endings, they are objectively done in a rush and without much thinking or effort. That is a fact because I have 2,9 other games to contrast as "things well done".

And that is what pissess me off. ME3 is a beta, is an incomplete product, it has bugs, big issues such as the face importing (WTF were you guys thinking) and day 1 DLC which I feel is highly unethical.

Overall the general impression is that, as I said, the game was released incomplete, rushed, there was either not the possibility or the willingness to do it better. It shows, I can see it clear as day, as can a whole lot of other people. And you know it, you know the endings didn't get as much effort as the rest.

But despite that, most of the statements I find are insulting the people who are rightfully complaining, saying that they are either entitled brats, idiots or "overly passionate fans that need more time to say goodbye". which is overly condescending. We are not retards. The official version is that the endings are perfect, they are fine, they are what you always dreamed. Well, this is outright denying the obvious. What pissess me off is not the shoddy work put into the endings (well, it does a bit), it is the outright lying to our faces, releasing an incomplete product and calling it perfect and polished, and expect us to shell out more money to correct what should not be an issue.

Well, this is all a bunch of disrespectful lies, sir, and I call shenanigans.

[SalsaDMA]

Escocido wrote...

Yeah, lots of words that say nothing at all.

Look, I`m a big fan of ME, but not a specially rabid one. I disliked the endings, they are objectively done in a rush and without much thinking or effort. That is a fact because I have 2,9 other games to contrast as "things well done".

And that is what pissess me off. ME3 is a beta, is an incomplete product, it has bugs, big issues such as the face importing (WTF were you guys thinking) and day 1 DLC which I feel is highly unethical.

Overall the general impression is that, as I said, the game was released incomplete, rushed, there was either not the possibility or the willingness to do it better. It shows, I can see it clear as day, as can a whole lot of other people. And you know it, you know the endings didn't get as much effort as the rest.

But despite that, most of the statements I find are insulting the people who are rightfully complaining, saying that they are either entitled brats, idiots or "overly passionate fans that need more time to say goodbye". which is overly condescending. We are not retards. The official version is that the endings are perfect, they are fine, they are what you always dreamed. Well, this is outright denying the obvious. What pissess me off is not the shoddy work put into the endings (well, it does a bit), it is the outright lying to our faces, releasing an incomplete product and calling it perfect and polished, and expect us to shell out more money to correct what should not be an issue.

Well, this is all a bunch of disrespectful lies, sir, and I call shenanigans.

*Puts on sarcasm voice*

Didn't you hear? They had the game finished for over a month before release and was just adding extra polish to it in the time up to the 'perfect release date'...

*reverts to normal voice*

At least, that's what they tried to convince people off...

[CaribbeanCLANK]

I just want someone from BioWare to admitt they made a mistake. Just admitt that you screwed up.

I respect the BioWare team and think they have done a wonderful job with the Mass Effect series so far. And I guess this is why the ending of ME3 is such a huge let down to me and many other fans. There has always been so much attention to detail with regards to the ME storyline but the ending of ME3 felt rushed.

Sorry Dr. Ray Muzyka...but the ME team needs to admitt they screwed up.

[SalsaDMA]

CaribbeanCLANK wrote...

Sorry Dr. Ray Muzyka...but the ME team needs to admitt they screwed up.

I think the problem isn't that the team "screwed up", but rather that they most likely did precisely what they were told to do.

[Escocido]

Oh, I was forgetting about Tali's face and the ctrlv'd Elcor from ME1 at the Citadel. As I said, the evidence for a rushed and shoddy job is overwhelming. Maybe you didn't have enough time or money, there were some other big problems or you just wanted to end the series and didn't really care, I can accept those reasons, just don't tell me that those endings and many other things were given proper work and revision.

[Stronglav]

SalsaDMA wrote...

CaribbeanCLANK wrote...

Sorry Dr. Ray Muzyka...but the ME team needs to admitt they screwed up.

I think the problem isn't that the team "screwed up", but rather that they most likely did precisely what they were told to do.

That's not gonna happen. 

[suvius]

So just throwing this out there... its april and its past april fool's day, anything to say bioware?

or are you still trying to figure out how to make it sound like you didn't say things like "fans helped the writing" and "unique experiences via decisions" and "seeing as its the end of the series we can write more divergent endings than in the previous games" and then completely not live up.

[LEFTLEY]

hi bioware i had a thought a while ago it sounded really good and possible but do you think you would ever consider makeing a mass effect stratigy game

[Stronglav]

LEFTLEY wrote...

hi bioware i had a thought a while ago it sounded really good and possible but do you think you would ever consider makeing a mass effect stratigy game

They might use your idea since Biogays already announced a new games in the Mass Effect universe.
Funny thing is I already submited this very same idea.Didn't work. 

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

This is what I gathered from that, PR speak and damage control.

Hes probably too busy bowing in worship to EA.

[Yuki Shepard]

Jaajjaja, pure bullsh**, over 75 perfect score.... well of course you gonna get a great rewiew from the blogs you paid, but, come on! the blogs loves you, but your fans not? the must be something wrong!!!

And, its not ONLY the ending! you delay the game 6 months, just to release it with BUGS???!!!! You said the game is a RPG action game, but you dont let me make the calls??? you said the game is on earth, but we only geat an hour on earth? And dont make start talking about origin!!! MAYOR FAIL!
Just stop selling the ME3 and release the ME3.5 fixing the entire game...

[SeanAnderton]

These are my thoughts on what would improve the ending:

1. Take into account the choices players made up to that point. If they were Paragon, Renegade, who they helped, who they killed, who they romanced, all of that should be reflected in the ending.

2. Address the plot-holes. Why are Joker and your team making a mass relay jump when moments before they were fighting by your side? How did your team even get aboard the Normandy?

3. Give closure to characters. What happens to everyone after the mass relays explode? Wouldn't that kill all life? And wouldn't the survivors be stranded on earth? And isn't earth burned to a crisp anyway?

4. Give the player options that are in line with their character. The options that the starchild present are contradictory to the theme of the game, and go against what you've been fighting for.

5. It seems odd that the reapers would build a device that can destroy the reapers. And the reapers purpose, to save organic life from synthetics by killing organic life with synthetics, is circular logic, and also flawed. It is contradictory to the alliance you help the geth form with the quarrians.

6. How are Anderson and the Illusive Man with Shepard in the end? How did they get there first? And why does Hackett radio Shepard after he believes no one made it on board?

7. Give a little wrap up to our efforts during the journey. If we cured the genophage, how does that effect the galaxy? Also, if we unite the geth and quarrians, what effect does that have? Let us see the consequences of our actions.

8. If Shepard can live in the best ending, then embrace it! Don't just give us a single breath. Have Shepard stand up, look to the stars, and smile at his victory... or something. I don't mind if Shepard dies, but if you're going to let him live in one of the endings, make it count.

This video sums up the main complaints pretty well:

Thanks for listening.

[PaxtonFetel]

9.As the citadel was near the Earth? I have not heard that there are engines.
10. Why save the Сouncil, Kelly and many others, if everyone who was at the citadel still a be meat stuffing.

Modifié par PaxtonFetel, 03 avril 2012 - 08:23 .

[venom56321489]

April 3rd and all quiet at bioware hear the crickets. cricket, cricket

[SeismicGravy]

11. Why isn't Anderson anywhere near as badly injured as Shepard?  He was hit by the same beam that hit you after all (Unless of course all his injuries were internal).

[SnailManDom]

The more I look at the evidence , the more I find the indoctrination theory to be very plausible.

[PaxtonFetel]

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[windkayak]

April,no new ending,no new content.
And multiplayer is already getting stale.

Modifié par windkayak, 03 avril 2012 - 02:53 .

[Fleenots]

I think the man got it wrong. It is being a while Bioware fell in the temptation of marketing and pushing forward into making money, leaving unfinished products behind. Even if I own and am a big fan of both Mass Effec 1/2 and Dragon Age Origins, the fact that DAO is waiting for a patch for a long while to resolve minor issues but a lot of them and the fail of DA2 reveals that something changed for worst in Bioware. Also the uncoutable marketing maneuvers of the team reveals that they are more into making money than art. And for that ME2 was probably the last product of Bioware that I've acquired.

How I miss the Neverwinter Nights times!!! It is a pity...

Modifié par Fleenots, 03 avril 2012 - 03:55 .

[Stronglav]

Going back to replay the DAO again.Freed much space on my hard drive after deleting all Mass crap from it.Such a disappointment.