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[CaribbeanCLANK]

Getorex wrote...

The REAL intended ending is way superior to the pile of crap they put in the game (revealed by the MAIN writer): http://www.strategyi...ffect-3-endings

Interesting read....prefer the general plot of this ending to the trash we were given.

[Getorex]

Another recent review of the ME3 ending by a "professional" critic...Bioware disrespecting the audience: http://kotaku.com/58...nvested-players

[Beta-Breech]

I'm waiting for the news from BW. If it turns out that they're just going to ****** over their fan base I certainly won't be participating in any future purchases. I may even go as far as cancelling my TOR sub.

[Stronglav]

Beta-Breech wrote...

I'm waiting for the news from BW. If it turns out that they're just going to ****** over their fan base I certainly won't be participating in any future purchases. I may even go as far as cancelling my TOR sub.

Please keep on waiting.I love optimistic people.  

[Getorex]

Regarding the PROPER way for devs to respond to criticism, here's EIDOS apologizing for the boss fights in Deus Ex: Human Revolution. Their DLC added later corrected the boss fight flaw (nowhere near as big a flaw as the ME3 ending is!):

"Game designer at Square Enix, Francois Lapikas, has been talking Deus Ex: Human Revolution at GDC. We love that game. Tom even awarded it an outstanding 94%

Tom hates one bit of Human Revolution though: the boss fights. "They are terrible. And they cannot be avoided." he said in his review. "The game is so conflicted about this that there’s even a Steam achievement for completing it without killing anyone, which apologetically adds that boss fights don’t count." Ouch.

Unexpectedly, some of the design team agree. Francois has offered a sincere apology for the four bosses that featured in Human Revolution.

“We didn’t know what they were for. We saw them as a way to break the tension,” admitted the dev. But the fights weren’t designed until well into the game development and the team were pressed for time. “We figured by putting in enough ammo in the room, we would be fine and could move on... next time we’ll think about them more. They were a big part of the game and we should have put more effort into them. We are truly sorry about that."

[Iceman22012]

All I know is this....I didn't play through all 3 games to get to the end and have a chat with some reaper VI. I gathered the galaxy for one purpose, to take down Harbinger, and wipe out the reapers. if starboy wants to throw his backwards logic at someone else, that's fine, but after he's done talking, 10/10 times, I'm limping to the "destroy" option, and waiting to wake up back on earth to finish this fight.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Getorex wrote...

The REAL intended ending is way superior to the pile of crap they put in the game (revealed by the MAIN writer): http://www.strategyi...ffect-3-endings

Too bad Drew's ending sucked too.

* If I'm reading that right, and the choice was between saving the universe at the cost of all humanity and letting the Reapers live, or stopping the Reapers and letting the universe die. 

Anything that had the Reapers as anything less than purely monsterous was going to suck. 

Any ending that did not feature wiping out the Reapers and saving the galaxy FROM the Reapers was going to suck.

...

Never mind that the whole "human genetic diversity" thing was a load of crap.  At least on this planet, we're one of the more genetically UNdiverse species.

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 04 avril 2012 - 06:27 .

[Getorex]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Getorex wrote...

The REAL intended ending is way superior to the pile of crap they put in the game (revealed by the MAIN writer): http://www.strategyi...ffect-3-endings

Too bad Drew's ending sucked too.

* If I'm reading that right, and the choice was between saving the universe at the cost of all humanity and letting the Reapers live, or stopping the Reapers and letting the universe die. 

Anything that had the Reapers as anything less than purely monsterous was going to suck. 

Any ending that did not feature wiping out the Reapers and saving the galaxy FROM the Reapers was going to suck.

...

Never mind that the whole "human genetic diversity" thing was a load of crap.  At least on this planet, we're one of the more genetically UNdiverse species.

I would disagree there.  The Reapers should be setup as something more than just silly malevolent badguys who kill because they just do.  Or because they hate organics.  A more interesting ending makes them more complex, and both good guys and bad guys (good in their ultimate purpose but bad in how they are going about it).  The ending linked above could be a BASIS for a better ending, it doesn't have to be as simple as the outline mentioned in the link.  If you totally defeat the Reapers and don't leave something else equal or worse, then there is no possible future ME series.  THAT is the beauty.  Sure, it doesn't have to have Shepard in it (and that doesn't mean that Shepard MUST die...it just means further in the future) but you wont even get that if there is no antagonist to at least match the Reapers.  Dark energy is bigger than the Reapers and allows for future ME games.

Dark energy also brings full continuity to the game: ME2 mentions dark energy multiple times.  It MUST come back as it was clearly a future focus anyway.

[T_elic]

Getorex wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Getorex wrote...

The REAL intended ending is way superior to the pile of crap they put in the game (revealed by the MAIN writer): http://www.strategyi...ffect-3-endings

Too bad Drew's ending sucked too.

* If I'm reading that right, and the choice was between saving the universe at the cost of all humanity and letting the Reapers live, or stopping the Reapers and letting the universe die. 

Anything that had the Reapers as anything less than purely monsterous was going to suck. 

Any ending that did not feature wiping out the Reapers and saving the galaxy FROM the Reapers was going to suck.

...

Never mind that the whole "human genetic diversity" thing was a load of crap.  At least on this planet, we're one of the more genetically UNdiverse species.

I would disagree there.  The Reapers should be setup as something more than just silly malevolent badguys who kill because they just do.  Or because they hate organics.  A more interesting ending makes them more complex, and both good guys and bad guys (good in their ultimate purpose but bad in how they are going about it).  The ending linked above could be a BASIS for a better ending, it doesn't have to be as simple as the outline mentioned in the link.  If you totally defeat the Reapers and don't leave something else equal or worse, then there is no possible future ME series.  THAT is the beauty.  Sure, it doesn't have to have Shepard in it (and that doesn't mean that Shepard MUST die...it just means further in the future) but you wont even get that if there is no antagonist to at least match the Reapers.  Dark energy is bigger than the Reapers and allows for future ME games.

Dark energy also brings full continuity to the game: ME2 mentions dark energy multiple times.  It MUST come back as it was clearly a future focus anyway.

Agreed. I never fully understood why they dropped the entire dark energy story. It was hinted at multiple times in ME2, and if i believe correctly, i was hinted at in ME1 as well. Why did they suddenly jump ship?

[Tyrellan]

Just popping in to find out why patch 1.02 is still the latest patch?

[SeismicGravy]

Something else bugs me regarding the Normandy scene:

If Joker was supposed to have brittle bone disease, why didn't the crash landing break every single bone in his body?

[Godwhacker]

Turns out that Jennifer Hale has yet to be contacted about new endings. I would have thought she'd be pretty essential.

Can you sort the bloody ending out please? It's terrible whichever way you cut it. People write bad endings all the time. It's OK. We understand. Thing is, you've got a mutable product. You can change it.

So, please change it, because it was a massive pile of ******.

[Getorex]

Godwhacker wrote...

Turns out that Jennifer Hale has yet to be contacted about new endings. I would have thought she'd be pretty essential.

Can you sort the bloody ending out please? It's terrible whichever way you cut it. People write bad endings all the time. It's OK. We understand. Thing is, you've got a mutable product. You can change it.

So, please change it, because it was a massive pile of ******.

There can be various reasons this could be so:

1) they really REALLY suck and just intend to slap paint on a turd (the current ending).
2) they are not yet at a point where they need to bring in any voice actors
3) they have a bunch of stuff in the can already (for DLCs, removed scenes, etc) that they can make use of

Their announcement at PAX should, hopefully, clear up which of the above is correct.

It if is 1 then that's it, game over, Bioware commits suicide.  2 is OK...means they are working on it.  3 MAY be OK depending on what materials they have to work with.

[SeismicGravy]

Thought this was relevant.

http://www.dailymail...astronomer.html

So if he can do it with his product, why can't Bioware with theirs?

Modifié par SeismicGravy, 04 avril 2012 - 08:25 .

[venom56321489]

Bioware is just trying to let this blow over being out of sight and out of mind. They are also trying to avoid subject with all this weekend special multiplayer crap. And swotor patches and expansions. If they are still going to pax be prepared for more pr bull****.

[venom56321489]

It is getting so tiresome I am literally at point to say hell with Bioware and boycott all there merchandise. If I dont get answers by April 17th I am going to witcher 2, Followed by Risen 2. And I still havent played skyrim. It just sucks how Bioware and EA have treated their fans by being vague with questions, ignoring us, and making us look like cry babies and whinners. Either way by know trust is gone and when you really look at everything the fans have gone thru fighting for new ending, and slamming the fans have taken from critics, it makes me just want to throw in the towel and avoid all of Bioware and Ea products from here on out.

[venom56321489]

EA Wins 'Worst Company In America,' Did 'Mass Effect 3' Ending Impact Votes? [VIDEO]

http://www.ibtimes.c...re-ea-games.htm

[venom56321489]

EA Wins 'Worst Company In America,' Did 'Mass Effect 3' Ending Impact Votes? [VIDEO]

http://www.ibtimes.c...re-ea-games.htm

Earlier today a report surfaced in a Mexican newspaper indicating that the upcoming DLC for "Mass Effect 3" will not change the game's ending.

[Artemis_Entrari]

Godwhacker wrote...

Turns out that Jennifer Hale has yet to be contacted about new endings. I would have thought she'd be pretty essential.

Can you sort the bloody ending out please? It's terrible whichever way you cut it. People write bad endings all the time. It's OK. We understand. Thing is, you've got a mutable product. You can change it.

So, please change it, because it was a massive pile of ******.

If it's true that Ms. Hale (and probably her male Shepard counterpart) haven't been contacted, then it's looking more and more like the ending we have is the ending we will ever get.

At most, they might add a "slideshow" showing a picture of your squadmates and the various planets, with a random narrator (probably get Jessica Chobot to narrate in her monotone voice just to ****** off the fanbase more) telling us what happened to them.

But at this point, if Ms. Hale hasn't even been contacted, I don't see BioWare being serious at all about customer complaints over the ending.

[OlympusMons423]

Funny to think I get every Alien races entire fleet to fight these things, but all I needed all along to destroy them was a pistol.

I loved this game up until the last few minutes. I can;t imagine what I would think or feel if this game got a well thought through ending. That ending was so in reach too.

BTW I have a bit of an issue wiuth the idea that BioWare or EA would announce anything official about this game through a Mexican Newspaper. It seems like it would be more offical than that.

As for the fem Shepards voice actress...that is where you would go if you wanted an inside scoop. Of course she would not be able to leak news, because she would be under some clause in her contract. Not feeling good about this.

Modifié par OlympusMons423, 05 avril 2012 - 12:14 .

[Beta-Breech]

According to the Twitter account of ME it was confirmed to be false/rumor.

[OlympusMons423]

Why couldn't we just have fought a horrible war, lost billions of souls, but somehow come through it as a crew with Shepard. Now Shepard has to figure ways to help everybody back home, to rebuild, to not fall apart and kill each other? Am I the only one that sees one hell of a game in a Phoenix Rising from The Ashes type thing from that point on? Just think how many downloads you could get out of that where people would understand and except it. There was no art in that?

BTW I hated the dark energy idea....I could see it as the threat we had to get out of after we beat the reapers butts...but the choices need more walking through..a lot more walking through

Modifié par OlympusMons423, 05 avril 2012 - 01:04 .

[CARL_DF90]

Between this youtube vid:

,this article: http://www.gamefront...fans-are-right/

and the other articles being posted Bioware should know EXACTLY why the fans hate the ending. It's broken no matter how you slice it. How this got past anyone at Bioware HQ is beyond me.

[Artemis_Entrari]

At this point, I'd just like either Casey Hudson or Mac Walters to explain, in detail, how exactly the ending made sense.

I bet it would play out like an episode of Seinfeld where Elaine goes to have a chat with the publishers of the New Yorker, about a comic strip that's so vague she's not sure what it's implying.

She sits down with the editor, and the editor goes around the bush for a bit, giving vague responses about how brilliant and witty the piece is, before finally Elaine says, "You have no idea what this means, do you?"

He pauses for a second, then shakes his head and says, "Not a clue."

[CerberusCheerleader]

CARL_DF90 wrote...

Between this youtube vid:

,this article: http://www.gamefront...fans-are-right/

and the other articles being posted Bioware should know EXACTLY why the fans hate the ending. It's broken no matter how you slice it. How this got past anyone at Bioware HQ is beyond me.

There are so many plot holes and implausibilities in Mass Effect, they didn't think anyone would particularly notice the ones in the ending. Seriously.