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[Arokel]

Tamcia wrote...

Thornquist wrote...

DESTRAUDO wrote...

The indoc theory burns. ha . HAHA. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Delighted.

Alot of people was willing to bet hard cash that this theory was true.

I WANT MY PAYMENT!

Do you accept space magic dollars or do you prefer LOTS OF SPECULATIONS FOR EVERYONE credit? 

I'll take some LOSFE credit thanks.  

[Erethrian]

In fact, the endings were meant to be this way. They didn't expect this outrage, understood. But that doesn't mean that IT isn't true. As before, no one knows 'til April 6th. ^^

So IT still works for me, and you can't say "you're wrong" because, again, no one has proves against it. The game is complete, as I stated, the game just needs the closure. And IT can bring closure. The edngins were planned this way, IT still can be true, even if there're no facts about it.

Modifié par Erethrian, 21 mars 2012 - 03:47 .

[nupfi]

g0dhax0rz wrote...

I think the sheer fact that the indoctrination ending is a viable ending supported by the actual ending game play is telling. If indeed they didn't intend for Shepard to be under some effects of indoctrination, it's just all the more telling of the sloppy work that went into the ending. It left so much room for interpretation that an ending they didn't intend to put in there makes more sense than the one they gave us.

^ My thoughts exactly.

[Afliction2643]

Can you blame the fans?? evan if it wasnt intended its the only thing to account for the breathtaking plot holes and nonsence.



Maybe Bioware has been indoctrinated.

Modifié par Afliction2643, 21 mars 2012 - 03:50 .

[DESTRAUDO]

RavenEyry wrote...

Now indoc is most likely wrong that means the ending was even worse than it looked at first, because they completely accidentally slipped in a dozen clues it was fake in an otherwise well written and designed game.

And DESTRAUDO, does it make you feel like a big man to randomly insult strangers on the internet?

Who did i insult? I am just glad that the absolute joke that was indoctrination theroy is now laid to rest. Indoc fanatics would see zero reason on the subject what so ever and denied the massive vault of information that proved they were wrong, and claimed everyone else failed to connect the dots. They claimed everyone who chose control or synth was indoctrinated. They get to eat crow. 

[DrFrankenseuss]

I think indoctrination theory will definately not appear in the revisions because the writers are the ones who patch up the holes, not us. We just point em out.

[Fuzzfro]

tobito113 wrote...

nupfi wrote...

Nevermind. Just go with the indoc. theory. It would be the key to turn good endings into brilliant ones.

Fixed for you ;P

NO

I'll fix it...

"Nevermind, Just go with the indoc theory it would be the key to turn absolute garbage endings that make no sense into brilliant ones."

[Kyp]

I want to say that I have not once told anyone not to buy the game. On the contrary, I've been talking it up to anyone I know that would be interested. Of course, I do mention the ending may not be satisfying, but the rest of the ride is a blast.

[RavenEyry]

DESTRAUDO wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Now indoc is most likely wrong that means the ending was even worse than it looked at first, because they completely accidentally slipped in a dozen clues it was fake in an otherwise well written and designed game.

And DESTRAUDO, does it make you feel like a big man to randomly insult strangers on the internet?

Who did i insult? I am just glad that the absolute joke that was indoctrination theroy is now laid to rest. Indoc fanatics would see zero reason on the subject what so ever and denied the massive vault of information that proved they were wrong, and claimed everyone else failed to connect the dots. They claimed everyone who chose control or synth was indoctrinated. They get to eat crow. 

You were delighting in people's dissapointment. I find that pretty insulting. I also find it insulting that you think there is loads of information proving us wrong. I never came across a single argument against the theory that was even vaguely convincing.

[Erethrian]

DrFrankenseuss wrote...

I think indoctrination theory will definately not appear in the revisions because the writers are the ones who patch up the holes, not us. We just point em out.

What he says is clear to me. They're using huge PR skills to stop the rage and the refunds. But he doesn't say there's no Indoctrination theory, he says they'll explain about the endings... on April, I'm sure it'll be on April 6th. So, holding the line... Of the Indoctrination theory.

[Capeo]

Mr Massakka wrote...

Yes, they basically confirmed with their reactions that it was not planned after all.

If they fix the ending, I hope they really jump onto the indoctrination theory.
It would solve most of the problems they had, without even writer-work involved AND it would guarantee great fan-feedback (haven't seen many protest against the theory).

What!?!  No it wouldn't.  I'd rather have the three choices in the game better explained than that and given that IT is tiny portion of an already small community it wouldn't get great fan feedback.  It doesn't follow lore any more than the ending does.  Not to mention it would invalidate two of the current choices that people could already make.

Give it up.  The most we're going to get is epilogues or something similar.  They are never going to go back and rewrite or tack on a new ending after the vast majority of owners already played the game.  They would be destroyed in the press.

[Tequila Man]

Fanfiction.net is going to be pissed. Teehee.

[Navasha]

I saw nothing in there that either confirms or denies anything in particular as is the case with most officially released statements. It was simply a statement of support that they stand by their product and the team that made it.

The only thing that it does confirm is that there will be future Mass Effect content both for ME3 and new games.

[Capeo]

Erethrian wrote...

DrFrankenseuss wrote...

I think indoctrination theory will definately not appear in the revisions because the writers are the ones who patch up the holes, not us. We just point em out.

What he says is clear to me. They're using huge PR skills to stop the rage and the refunds. But he doesn't say there's no Indoctrination theory, he says they'll explain about the endings... on April, I'm sure it'll be on April 6th. So, holding the line... Of the Indoctrination theory.

OMG!!! Yes, he does!  He is defending the endings!  Have people lost all ability to read?  You IT people are officially creationists now.  You have direct confirmation from the highest person in BW that this is the ending they intended (after already ignoring the script, the devs comments, the Final Hours and what the friggin' game outright tells you) and still you persist?  Un-effing-believable.

[DaosX]

Have you guys ever considered that, maybe...JUST MAYBE...he's lying?

I mean, it's not THE FIRST TIME Bioware has lied to us...

[Kanon777]

Good lord, now that more info on the dlcs will only come in april we still have a month before indoc theorists finaly gets its final blow!!!

[dorktainian]

I like the dark endings, but then again I would like a real ending.... Now Which is Better?

Theres only one way to find out...



FIGHT!!!!

[NReoJB]

Yeah, indoctrination would be a very good choice to save the ending. But it would have been a master piece if it were in the final game. After all the discussion the mind f**k that would have been created with such an ending is drasticly lower. But hey, the trilogy would get a ending which it deserves and that alone would be a great thing.

I hope Bioware sees what pieces of the original ending are not liked and doesn't repeat that mistakes. For example I'm not the only one who dosn't like the reaper explanation. I think there is no explanation necessary where they came from, who created them and why exactly they want us dead. Every reaper we talked with stated that we would not understand their reasons, so be it. The only thing that matters is they are here now and we must stop them for good.

So please, please no god child or something like that. Just give us a way to defeat the reapers and show us which consequences the decisions we made have on the galaxy and on the people we met along the way.

[Erethrian]

Capeo wrote...

Erethrian wrote...

DrFrankenseuss wrote...

I think indoctrination theory will definately not appear in the revisions because the writers are the ones who patch up the holes, not us. We just point em out.

What he says is clear to me. They're using huge PR skills to stop the rage and the refunds. But he doesn't say there's no Indoctrination theory, he says they'll explain about the endings... on April, I'm sure it'll be on April 6th. So, holding the line... Of the Indoctrination theory.

OMG!!! Yes, he does!  He is defending the endings!  Have people lost all ability to read?  You IT people are officially creationists now.  You have direct confirmation from the highest person in BW that this is the ending they intended (after already ignoring the script, the devs comments, the Final Hours and what the friggin' game outright tells you) and still you persist?  Un-effing-believable.

Haha, he defends the endings because as I said the game is complete. The endings were meant to be this way. He simply says they never expected this reaction from us the fans. Notice that he says they'll explain things on April. He never says that there was nothing coming, he just says what he needs to say to calm down the outrage.

[clarkusdarkus]

the mere fact that they developed and were satisfied with the endings is more dissapointing then them not seeing the indoc theory way.

[BobbyDylan]

dorktainian wrote...

I like the dark endings, but then again I would like a real ending.... Now Which is Better?

Theres only one way to find out...



CHOOSE!!!!

FTFY.

Bioware should let us do this.

[Phydeaux314]

I'm fairly certain most of the people didn't think it was originally intended, they were hoping that Bioware would take it as a launching off point for an ending that was actually satisfying. It was pretty obvious after the first week that the ending was whole and in place as originally intended.

[Eain]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

I was thinking that after Ray's response (http://blog.bioware....012/03/21/4108/) and Hudson's response last week - the InDoc Theory (as much as I support it) - was probably not planned afterall.

Of course it wasn't. It was wishful thinking from day one. The indoc theory would've been such a complex piece of writing that it would've been utterly uncharacteristic of what we know of Bioware.

The company that tries to tearjerk by putting a parentless kid in a ship that gets blown up does not write something so masterful as the indoc theory.

Modifié par Eain, 21 mars 2012 - 04:02 .

[darkiddd]

DESTRAUDO wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Now indoc is most likely wrong that means the ending was even worse than it looked at first, because they completely accidentally slipped in a dozen clues it was fake in an otherwise well written and designed game.

And DESTRAUDO, does it make you feel like a big man to randomly insult strangers on the internet?

Who did i insult? I am just glad that the absolute joke that was indoctrination theroy is now laid to rest. Indoc fanatics would see zero reason on the subject what so ever and denied the massive vault of information that proved they were wrong, and claimed everyone else failed to connect the dots. They claimed everyone who chose control or synth was indoctrinated. They get to eat crow. 

With what you have written it's so obvious you chose synthesis or control man  scared you might have made the bad choice?

And this doesn't change anything. It doesn't support post indoctrination ending nor it dismantles it. 

Bioware might be lying and they already planned a post indoctrination ending.
Or they aren't lying and still they will go for the indoctrination theory the fans have come up with (highly unlikely because evidence proves Bioware had already thought about this and the fans just connected the dots)
Or they will go for other ending

What's important here is the confirmation that they will change the ending. How much and in what form remains to be seen.

Modifié par darkiddd, 21 mars 2012 - 04:03 .

[DESTRAUDO]

I found being told that my end game choice meant i was brainwashed by the reapers insulting. 

Indoc theory focused on taking inconsistencies in the ending and taking them to mean something while ignoring the inconsistencies that happen previous to this and throughout all mass effect games. Infinite ammo pistol at start of game fine. Infinite ammo pistol with no reload at end of game = significant point in indoc theory. 

Selective damage from reaper laser to shepard = significant point in indoc theory. The fact that the same lasers in the game slice through starships like butter, but only pick up small chunks of debris when they run across the ground instead of cutting 200ft deep trenches, ignored. The fact on tuchanka you can take cover behind a rock to avoid the beams, ignored. The fact the reaper on earth watches an abortive attempt to kill it with thannix missiles, then does not bother to shoot the identical missile truck but has the accuracy to fire a beam that follows the player characters around the screen, ignored. 

RavenEyry wrote...

DESTRAUDO wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Now indoc is most likely wrong that means the ending was even worse than it looked at first, because they completely accidentally slipped in a dozen clues it was fake in an otherwise well written and designed game.

And DESTRAUDO, does it make you feel like a big man to randomly insult strangers on the internet?

Who did i insult? I am just glad that the absolute joke that was indoctrination theroy is now laid to rest. Indoc fanatics would see zero reason on the subject what so ever and denied the massive vault of information that proved they were wrong, and claimed everyone else failed to connect the dots. They claimed everyone who chose control or synth was indoctrinated. They get to eat crow. 

You were delighting in people's dissapointment. I find that pretty insulting. I also find it insulting that you think there is loads of information proving us wrong. I never came across a single argument against the theory that was even vaguely convincing.