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[Ukjack44]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

I see MassEffected is still at it, making a fool of himself in threads, getting called names by fellow BSN'ers that think you are a few eggs short of a dozen.

Doesn't some of it sink in? when 10 threads tell you "what you say doesn't make sense" or "were you dropped as a child" maybe you should re-evealuate your thoughts.

Its a little more then just simple dissagreeing with you.

Is he a troll?

[Ghost of a Messiah]

Ukjack44 wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

I see MassEffected is still at it, making a fool of himself in threads, getting called names by fellow BSN'ers that think you are a few eggs short of a dozen.

Doesn't some of it sink in? when 10 threads tell you "what you say doesn't make sense" or "were you dropped as a child" maybe you should re-evealuate your thoughts.

Its a little more then just simple dissagreeing with you.

Is he a troll?

Absolutely.

[Tiax Rules All]

Ghost of a Messiah wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

I see MassEffected is still at it, making a fool of himself in threads, getting called names by fellow BSN'ers that think you are a few eggs short of a dozen.

Doesn't some of it sink in? when 10 threads tell you "what you say doesn't make sense" or "were you dropped as a child" maybe you should re-evealuate your thoughts.

Its a little more then just simple dissagreeing with you.

I think masseffected really just wants an argument... You know... Flex his internet muscles...

rediculous user. Everybody gets there say but this one is something special.

i was hoping having nobody on his side would bring the posts per hour down, but apparently not.

[Rafe34]

Lmaoboat wrote...

If Indoctrination Theory turns out to be true, them the Illuminati needs to start taking tips from Bioware, because they ain't got **** on them when it comes to pulling off massive conspiracies involving hundreds of people without anyone slipping.

This is definitely true.

I don't think Indoc is actually what BW had in mind, because there is no way they could keep this secret. Someone would have said something by now.

Still sad the fans made a better ending in a week, though.

[Ghost of a Messiah]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

Ghost of a Messiah wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

I see MassEffected is still at it, making a fool of himself in threads, getting called names by fellow BSN'ers that think you are a few eggs short of a dozen.

Doesn't some of it sink in? when 10 threads tell you "what you say doesn't make sense" or "were you dropped as a child" maybe you should re-evealuate your thoughts.

Its a little more then just simple dissagreeing with you.

I think masseffected really just wants an argument... You know... Flex his internet muscles...

rediculous user. Everybody gets there say but this one is something special.

i was hoping having nobody on his side would bring the posts per hour down, but apparently not.

Could it be about attension?

[Ghost of a Messiah]

Rafe34 wrote...

Lmaoboat wrote...

If Indoctrination Theory turns out to be true, them the Illuminati needs to start taking tips from Bioware, because they ain't got **** on them when it comes to pulling off massive conspiracies involving hundreds of people without anyone slipping.

This is definitely true.

I don't think Indoc is actually what BW had in mind, because there is no way they could keep this secret. Someone would have said something by now.

Still sad the fans made a better ending in a week, though.

Why is it so hard to believe? Imagine if in Kotor you had to wait for a month for DLC before you found out you were Reven all along?

[JamesYHT]

so, this is it, huh. not the theory, won't fix the ending....wow
they just admit this is a broken game....

[Ghost of a Messiah]

JamesYHT wrote...

so, this is it, huh. not the theory, won't fix the ending....wow
they just admit this is a broken game....

There is still hope.

[Tsantilas]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

Ukjack44 wrote...

I just dont get why people actually don't want to believe in the indoctrination theory, if you don't believe it then good for you just stop trying to disprove it.

Pride mostly.

"Indoc theory means I was fooled, if i was fooled, I am wrong. I can't be wrong so i must fight it. Can't win by proving myself so yell loudly and discredit the other side, only way"

pretty much something like this.

Nope.  I've already mentioned why a few times in this thread but everyone seems to ignore it, so I'll say it again:

With the Indoctrination Theory, your ending is pretty much this:

As Shepard and the few surviving alliance soldiers charge to the conduit, Harbinger shows up and kills everyone and knocks Shepard out.  Shepard proceeds to have a weird lifelike hallucination, and hopefully if you didn't skip any content and played some multiplayer, he wakes up in london.  The end.  Congratulations you have defeated the reapers and Shepard is a legend.  Make sure to purchase all our DLC.

If you choose anything other than Destroy with higher than 4000+ EMS you don't even get that.  In fact the Indoctrination Theory spits in the face of anyone that actually likes the endings because it says that Control and Synthesis are "bad".  This is why the Indoctrination theory is even worse than just assuming the endings now are badly written messes.  I hate the current endings as much as many of you guys, but you're fooling yourself if you think this is all some elaborate scheme on Bioware's part and they are going to surprise us with a free DLC that suddenly clarifies everything.  In fact Ray's statement pretty much says they had no plans for any such free dlc, and that any post ending dlc will be something that will be made in the future.

Modifié par Tsantilas, 21 mars 2012 - 09:14 .

[byne]

Tsantilas wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

Ukjack44 wrote...

I just dont get why people actually don't want to believe in the indoctrination theory, if you don't believe it then good for you just stop trying to disprove it.

Pride mostly.

"Indoc theory means I was fooled, if i was fooled, I am wrong. I can't be wrong so i must fight it. Can't win by proving myself so yell loudly and discredit the other side, only way"

pretty much something like this.

Nope.  I've already mentioned why a few times in this thread but everyone seems to ignore it, so I'll say it again:

With the Indoctrination Theory, your ending is pretty much this:

As
Shepard and the few surviving alliance soldiers charge to the conduit, Harbinger shows up and kills everyone and knocks Shepard out.  Shepard proceeds to have a weird lifelike hallucination, and hopefully if you didn't skip any content and played some multiplayer, he wakes up in london.  The end.  Congratulations you have defeated the reapers and Shepard is a legend.  Make sure to purchase all our DLC.

If you choose anything other than Destroy with higher than 4000+ EMS you don't even get that.  This is why the Indoctrination theory is even worse than just assuming the endings now are badly written messes.  I hate the current endings as much as many of you guys, but you're fooling yourself if you think this is all some elaborate scheme on Bioware's part and they are going to surprise us with a free DLC that suddenly clarifies everything us.  In fact Ray's statement pretty much says they had no plans for any such free dlc, and that any post ending dlc will be something that will be made in the future.

They could easily just make it so that if you choose Control or Synthesis you just need a higher EMS to get the best ending than you do if you chose destroy.

Kind of like how you need 4000 EMS to survive destroy if you saved Anderson from TIM, but you need 5000 EMS if you didnt.

[JamesYHT]

Ghost of a Messiah wrote...

JamesYHT wrote...

so, this is it, huh. not the theory, won't fix the ending....wow
they just admit this is a broken game....

There is still hope.

yeap, i'll hold the line

[Jaze55]

Tsantilas wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

Ukjack44 wrote...

I just dont get why people actually don't want to believe in the indoctrination theory, if you don't believe it then good for you just stop trying to disprove it.

Pride mostly.

"Indoc theory means I was fooled, if i was fooled, I am wrong. I can't be wrong so i must fight it. Can't win by proving myself so yell loudly and discredit the other side, only way"

pretty much something like this.

Nope.  I've already mentioned why a few times in this thread but everyone seems to ignore it, so I'll say it again:

With the Indoctrination Theory, your ending is pretty much this:

As Shepard and the few surviving alliance soldiers charge to the conduit, Harbinger shows up and kills everyone and knocks Shepard out.  Shepard proceeds to have a weird lifelike hallucination, and hopefully if you didn't skip any content and played some multiplayer, he wakes up in london.  The end.  Congratulations you have defeated the reapers and Shepard is a legend.  Make sure to purchase all our DLC.

If you choose anything other than Destroy with higher than 4000+ EMS you don't even get that.  In fact the Indoctrination Theory spits in the face of anyone that actually likes the endings because it says that Control and Synthesis are "bad".  This is why the Indoctrination theory is even worse than just assuming the endings now are badly written messes.  I hate the current endings as much as many of you guys, but you're fooling yourself if you think this is all some elaborate scheme on Bioware's part and they are going to surprise us with a free DLC that suddenly clarifies everything.  In fact Ray's statement pretty much says they had no plans for any such free dlc, and that any post ending dlc will be something that will be made in the future.

All that and everything I already said about breaking the lore and having Shep be a husk or brain dead.

LOL apparantly tho anyone who doesn't believe like this little cult is a troll. 

[ArkkAngel007]

Tsantilas wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

Ukjack44 wrote...

I just dont get why people actually don't want to believe in the indoctrination theory, if you don't believe it then good for you just stop trying to disprove it.

Pride mostly.

"Indoc theory means I was fooled, if i was fooled, I am wrong. I can't be wrong so i must fight it. Can't win by proving myself so yell loudly and discredit the other side, only way"

pretty much something like this.

Nope.  I've already mentioned why a few times in this thread but everyone seems to ignore it, so I'll say it again:

With the Indoctrination Theory, your ending is pretty much this:

As Shepard and the few surviving alliance soldiers charge to the conduit, Harbinger shows up and kills everyone and knocks Shepard out.  Shepard proceeds to have a weird lifelike hallucination, and hopefully if you didn't skip any content and played some multiplayer, he wakes up in london.  The end.  Congratulations you have defeated the reapers and Shepard is a legend.  Make sure to purchase all our DLC.

If you choose anything other than Destroy with higher than 4000+ EMS you don't even get that.  In fact the Indoctrination Theory spits in the face of anyone that actually likes the endings because it says that Control and Synthesis are "bad".  This is why the Indoctrination theory is even worse than just assuming the endings now are badly written messes.  I hate the current endings as much as many of you guys, but you're fooling yourself if you think this is all some elaborate scheme on Bioware's part and they are going to surprise us with a free DLC that suddenly clarifies everything.  In fact Ray's statement pretty much says they had no plans for any such free dlc, and that any post ending dlc will be something that will be made in the future.

In either case, the ending is crap.  Both cases, the fans lose.  It's only speculation on the plot holes.

Again, why is there a need to prove it's true or prove it's false?  It's only speculation.

[GBGriffin]

Tsantilas wrote...

If you choose anything other than Destroy with higher than 4000+ EMS you don't even get that.  In fact the Indoctrination Theory spits in the face of anyone that actually likes the endings because it says that Control and Synthesis are "bad".  This is why the Indoctrination theory is even worse than just assuming the endings now are badly written messes.  I hate the current endings as much as many of you guys, but you're fooling yourself if you think this is all some elaborate scheme on Bioware's part and they are going to surprise us with a free DLC that suddenly clarifies everything.  In fact Ray's statement pretty much says they had no plans for any such free dlc, and that any post ending dlc will be something that will be made in the future.

Thank you so much for saying this. It's true.

I've noticed that the people who support the IT support the Destroy ending, so it works out well for them. And, really, it's the only ending that could actually work out because, by the ITs logic, the other two end in indoctrination..aka, a big game over, thank you, reload and pick the "right" ending.

At this point, you can pick one of three endings, and they're all pretty muich the same. If the IT holds true, you get two endings that are a game over and are forced to pick the Destroy ending to "wake up" and keep playing.

That, to me, is worse than what we got.

Modifié par GBGriffin, 21 mars 2012 - 09:17 .

[Humakt83]

Tsantilas wrote...

If you choose anything other than Destroy with higher than 4000+ EMS you don't even get that.  This is why the Indoctrination theory is even worse than just assuming the endings now are badly written messes.  I hate the current endings as much as many of you guys, but you're fooling yourself if you think this is all some elaborate scheme on Bioware's part and they are going to surprise us with a free DLC that suddenly clarifies everything us.  In fact Ray's statement pretty much says they had no plans for any such free dlc, and that any post ending dlc will be something that will be made in the future.

You realize that after the game ends, you are able to continue from the point just before attack to Cerberus base. That means, you can replay the ending with very little effort. Bioware might also change the EMS requirement for the ending, since that should be trivial thing to change. Besides, is Shepard even required for the new ending anyway?

Modifié par Humakt83, 21 mars 2012 - 09:17 .

[Jaze55]

Ghost of a Messiah wrote...

Ukjack44 wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

I see MassEffected is still at it, making a fool of himself in threads, getting called names by fellow BSN'ers that think you are a few eggs short of a dozen.

Doesn't some of it sink in? when 10 threads tell you "what you say doesn't make sense" or "were you dropped as a child" maybe you should re-evealuate your thoughts.

Its a little more then just simple dissagreeing with you.

Is he a troll?

Absolutely.

You do realize I am far from the only one that thinks you guys are acting like an insance cult right?

Holy Sh#t you people really are delusional.

Modifié par MassEffected555, 21 mars 2012 - 09:18 .

[GBGriffin]

Humakt83 wrote...

Tsantilas wrote...

If you choose anything other than Destroy with higher than 4000+ EMS you don't even get that.  This is why the Indoctrination theory is even worse than just assuming the endings now are badly written messes.  I hate the current endings as much as many of you guys, but you're fooling yourself if you think this is all some elaborate scheme on Bioware's part and they are going to surprise us with a free DLC that suddenly clarifies everything us.  In fact Ray's statement pretty much says they had no plans for any such free dlc, and that any post ending dlc will be something that will be made in the future.

You realize that after the game ends, you are able to continue from the point just before attack to Cerberus base. That means, you can replay the ending with very little effort. Bioware might also change the EMS requirement for the ending, since that should be trivial thing to change. Besides, is Shepard even required for the ending anyway?

So basically, you'd be punished for choosing the "wrong" answer by being forced to replay the entire mission so that you can arrive back in the same spot and  pick the right one?

How is that a good thing?

[Jaze55]

Why don't one of you Indoc Supports make a post asking who thinks you guys act like a cult and see what you get if you are so convinced everyone agrees with you.

[byne]

MassEffected555 wrote...

Ghost of a Messiah wrote...

Ukjack44 wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

I see MassEffected is still at it, making a fool of himself in threads, getting called names by fellow BSN'ers that think you are a few eggs short of a dozen.

Doesn't some of it sink in? when 10 threads tell you "what you say doesn't make sense" or "were you dropped as a child" maybe you should re-evealuate your thoughts.

Its a little more then just simple dissagreeing with you.

Is he a troll?

Absolutely.

You do realize I am far from the only one that thinks you guys are acting like an insance cult right?

Holy Sh#t you people really are delusional.

No, I'm fairly sure you're literally the only one who thinks we are comparable to Heaven's Gate.

While there are no doubt others who think we want it to be true a little too badly, or that we believe in it too much, you're the only one who has implied we are one step away from mass suicide.

[Rafe34]

Ghost of a Messiah wrote...

Rafe34 wrote...

Lmaoboat wrote...

If Indoctrination Theory turns out to be true, them the Illuminati needs to start taking tips from Bioware, because they ain't got **** on them when it comes to pulling off massive conspiracies involving hundreds of people without anyone slipping.

This is definitely true.

I don't think Indoc is actually what BW had in mind, because there is no way they could keep this secret. Someone would have said something by now.

Still sad the fans made a better ending in a week, though.

Why is it so hard to believe? Imagine if in Kotor you had to wait for a month for DLC before you found out you were Reven all along?

Because the company has come out and said that they were "surprised" at the fan's reaction to this ending, and that only their "core fans" were mad at them for it?

Come on. They're a business. They're currently losing money. The price went down 25% in Asia before it was even released. If they had something up their sleeve as big as the Indoc Theory, they'd say so.

Modifié par Rafe34, 21 mars 2012 - 09:24 .

[Humakt83]

GBGriffin wrote...

So basically, you'd be punished for choosing the "wrong" answer by being forced to replay the entire mission so that you can arrive back in the same spot and  pick the right one?

How is that a good thing?

If they give an additional ending, it is possible you have to replay the final moments anyway no matter the choice.

Anyway, if your time is so important that you can't be bothered to have a couple hours of replay, why are you wasting your time in the forums?

Modifié par Humakt83, 21 mars 2012 - 09:23 .

[Rafe34]

GBGriffin wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

Tsantilas wrote...

If you choose anything other than Destroy with higher than 4000+ EMS you don't even get that.  This is why the Indoctrination theory is even worse than just assuming the endings now are badly written messes.  I hate the current endings as much as many of you guys, but you're fooling yourself if you think this is all some elaborate scheme on Bioware's part and they are going to surprise us with a free DLC that suddenly clarifies everything us.  In fact Ray's statement pretty much says they had no plans for any such free dlc, and that any post ending dlc will be something that will be made in the future.

You realize that after the game ends, you are able to continue from the point just before attack to Cerberus base. That means, you can replay the ending with very little effort. Bioware might also change the EMS requirement for the ending, since that should be trivial thing to change. Besides, is Shepard even required for the ending anyway?

So basically, you'd be punished for choosing the "wrong" answer by being forced to replay the entire mission so that you can arrive back in the same spot and  pick the right one?

How is that a good thing?

Myst II: Riven, had something very similar. So did Exile. You could lose the game by going down the wrong path. It auto-saved prior to arriving at the island, about 15 minutes prior. 

Both games are fantastic, and the mind**** they throw at you at the end just makes them more so.

[Jaze55]

byne wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

Ghost of a Messiah wrote...

Ukjack44 wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

I see MassEffected is still at it, making a fool of himself in threads, getting called names by fellow BSN'ers that think you are a few eggs short of a dozen.

Doesn't some of it sink in? when 10 threads tell you "what you say doesn't make sense" or "were you dropped as a child" maybe you should re-evealuate your thoughts.

Its a little more then just simple dissagreeing with you.

Is he a troll?

Absolutely.

You do realize I am far from the only one that thinks you guys are acting like an insance cult right?

Holy Sh#t you people really are delusional.

No, I'm fairly sure you're literally the only one who thinks we are comparable to Heaven's Gate.

While there are no doubt others who think we want it to be true a little too badly, or that we believe in it too much, you're the only one who has implied we are one step away from mass suicide.

lol I really don't think you are going to commit mass suicide I am just saying your mentality compares to a cult. I just used them as an over exagerated comparision. Although it wouldn't shock me if some of you did in fact do that. 

[Tsantilas]

Humakt83 wrote...

Tsantilas wrote...

If you choose anything other than Destroy with higher than 4000+ EMS you don't even get that.  This is why the Indoctrination theory is even worse than just assuming the endings now are badly written messes.  I hate the current endings as much as many of you guys, but you're fooling yourself if you think this is all some elaborate scheme on Bioware's part and they are going to surprise us with a free DLC that suddenly clarifies everything us.  In fact Ray's statement pretty much says they had no plans for any such free dlc, and that any post ending dlc will be something that will be made in the future.

You realize that after the game ends, you are able to continue from the point just before attack to Cerberus base. That means, you can replay the ending with very little effort. Bioware might also change the EMS requirement for the ending, since that should be trivial thing to change. Besides, is Shepard even required for the new ending anyway?

So... lets say I pick Synergy for argument's sake.  I get the whole ending cutscene, have a feeling of "wtf just happened?" so I go to the BSN looking for answers.  I stumble into some Indoctrination Theory thread and everyone's like "Destroy is the good ending".  No problem, the game continues from before the Cerberus base, I play the sequence again, get to the ending, choose Destroy (and made sure I have 4000+ ems), I get the same cutscene except in a lovely shade of red, and a 3 second clip of Shepard breathing.  "Yay I broke out of Indoctrination, I'm awake in London!" Then I get the same pop up saying congrats you beat the game, the reapers are still killing everyone but no worries you somehow defeated them and Shepard is a legend.

Better?

[Kabraxal]

Little hint.. ignore him. You are being civil and he is not. He isn't worth the time or effort.

Really though, considering the twitter feeds respond ambiguously with "we are listening and read everythign" when confronted with IT and they are NOT outright refuting it still... yeah IT is not dead so lets just drop the argument.