refuse81 wrote...
terdferguson123 wrote...
Stygian1 wrote...
First off, if you haven't read this: http://blog.bioware....012/03/21/4108/ I'd recommend that you do.
So when I first saw that BioWare had officially responded to its fans, I thought "wow maybe you guys really are listening, maybe you actually want to fix this for the fans. Maybe you actually see that your ending was truely ill-planned and overall inept at bringing a close to such a gripping story."
Then.... well then I read the response. I was disapointed to say the least.
First, I'll point out the positives that I took from this response:
1. BioWare, you are listening enough to be AWARE that we hate the ending. Which, to be honest, I think a deaf man in a coma would be aware of by this point.
2. BioWare, you are willing to tie yourself to an official statement, and in that statement you make it clear that not only will you address the flaws of the ending, but you are willing to work on it.
Now, here is what I found infuriating about this response:
1. BioWare seems to think, or at least say, that what we are all angry about is that the ending didn't provide enough closure. Heh.
"Building on their research, Exec Producer Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey."
We don't just want closure! I mean to say the least, yeah most of us do want closure. But, one of our biggest complaints is that your ending is riddled with plot holes, ill-placed themes, deus ex machina cliche scenarios and above all that the ending takes away all choice from the players and turns their hero into a mindless drone and slave to the very beings he has fought so hard against. We don't want closure to an ending like this, we want closure to an ending we love, to an ending that after we finish we can put down the control and do a fist pump in the air (kinda like in ME1&2). We want a range of outcomes, good and bad, and above all we want our choices to matter--which in this current ending they are basically worth a morning constitutional...
2. BioWare seems to think that most people love this game.
"However, most folks appear to agree that the game as a whole is exceptional, with more than 75 critics giving it a perfect review score and a review average in the mid-90s. Net, I’m proud of the team, but we can and must always strive to do better."
Yeah.... have you checked ANY player or consumer ratings? I mean really how more obvious could it be that the majority of people purchasing you game rate it one star! (Look on amazon fyi, or any other website that sells ME3 and you shall see my point). I will say this though, BioWare, you did a great, no a fantastic job on this game. You made me fall into this awesome universe even more. The gameplay was great, the story was superb. I couldn't set down the controler. But, that ending, the ending alone (5 minutes) is what is turning your game from a 5 star GOTY to a 1 star piece of poo. It literally sucks the life out of the entire franchise.
I'm losing faith in your capability to address these issues BioWAre. I am aware I am only one person, but I am also aware that I have been a faithful customer for many years. I have poured every ounce of myself into this series--but I can't and won't follow you anymore if you don't respond to the outcry of not "some of our loyal fans" but almost ALL of your fans.
Listen BioWare, just see that we don't want to fight you. We just want you to see this from our perspective. What you created in the last five minutes of ME3 was a shiver of a brush stroke that ruined a well concieved portrait. That is not art, that is a mistake, a mistake that can be righted. We don't just want closure, we want an ending that is as beautiful and artistic as the rest of this magnificent series.
/end rant.
(first thread ever, sorry if I got a little impassioned.)
1.) That IS what your angry about, closure is more of a general term for wanting things to be explained better, Dr. Muzyka isn't wrong on this, it's just your warped interpretation that is the problem.
2.) Most people DO love this game, using a bunch of 1's on metacritic and amazon as your proof otherwise is silly. Bioware, and several other good games have been getting review bombed there for a long time now just because of the name, most of them have nothing to do with the game. In fact, a large chunk of metacritic reviews were posted literally hours after the game released, there was no way people had possibly played the game at that point.
Dr. Muzyka's post directly aknowledges the retake movement's concerns and even says that Bioware is thinking of ways to address them. As I said in countless other threads, BE PATIENT, people are still playing the game for gods sakes IT JUST CAME OUT, not everyone has the time to beat a 40-50 hour game in a couple of weeks for petes sakes. In conclusion, chill out and BE PATIENT, it's a virtue in case you havn't heard.
Keep your voice down man. You do not speak for everyone here. I for one don't dislike the ending because of lack of closure, it's the feeling of being thrown into a completely different game in the end where I don't have aything to say. I was bereft of choice and the whole thing felt like an insult of my intelligence. I just beat Deus Ex man.
Dr. Muzykas statement only reaffirms my belief that they are only listening to what they want to hear, stuff they can easily say without owning their mistake.
also, this
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