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[aszua]

@ Grey1

Właśnie to mnie boli bardzo, że jest tak mało fajnych rpgów, w których można zagrać babką. I to jeszcze takich gdzie ma to znaczenie. W ME udało im się stworzyć konkretną postać, która świetnie wypada w wersji żeńskiej i nieźle w męskiej. Będę się upierać, że jako female Shepard zdecydowanie bardziej się wyróżnia na tle innych opowieści niż w wersji mShep. Do tego fajne uniwersum również jeszcze nie ograne w rpgach, ciekawi towarzysze ze swoimi historiami (to we wszystkich ich grach chyba mocna strona) i fabuła może nie bardzo nowatorska, ale solidna i mieliśmy kawał świetnej gry. Niestety ostatnio to wszystko troszkę traci na rozmachu a co za tym idzie już tak nie wkręca.
Nie mniej nie skreślam gier od BW i liczę, jeśli nie na wyjątkowe to przynajmniej na solidne gry od nich w przyszłości. A jeśli nie, to cóż, trzeba mieć nadzieję, że jakieś studio spapuguje od nich styl, tylko zrobi to lepiej i z odrobiną czegoś świeżego. Nie będę miała pretensji

[Lord Bunio]

Jaki styl? W ciągu ostatnich lat wszystkie gry od BioWare schodzą na psy.

Ja po ME3 przestałem im ufać.
Od dziś w ciemno kupię tylko gry Blizzarda, bo co jak co, ale tam stawiają na jakość.

[aszua]

A co ma styl do jakości? Polubiłam ich styl/typ gier a że jakość spada? Owszem, ale też nie we wszystkich i nie zawsze aspektach. ME3 uważam za świetną grę i powrót do wielu aspektów zaniedbanych w innych ich ostanich grach. Tylko że ja nie oceniam gry po samym zakończeniu i mnie to które dostałam nie boli. A jeśli ktoś twierdzi, że nie kupi ich gier więcej, bo mu się zakończenie nie podoba, to cóż ma prawo, ale powinien też nico zastanowić się nad swoim zdrowiem.

[ArgawenPL]

Jak widzę, to 90% wypowiadających się na temat zakończenia na forum ma problem ze zdrowiem. Czy aby te 90% ?

Modifié par ArgawenPL, 28 mars 2012 - 03:38 .

[ArgawenPL]

wesoły krasnal przecież jest

[rinoe]

ArgawenPL wrote...

wesoły krasnal przecież jest

Tak, niestety. I nawet nie mozna go zastrzelic ani kopnac...

To mowi ktos, kto gra idealista na maxa... i jest nieszczesliwy z tego powodu ( braku mozliwosci zrobienia jakiejs wymiernej krzywdy krasnalowi znaczy...):innocent:

[ArgawenPL]

No to jest nas dwójka.

[rinoe]

Mysle, ze jest nas znacznie wiecej:)
Zastrzelenie krasnala to pierwszy odruch po takich opcjach jakie nam dal do wyboru...


Ale garnka zlota nie ma, fakt... niczego nie ma

Modifié par rinoe, 28 mars 2012 - 06:40 .

[Jinrei77]

"Są nas miliony" rzekłbym nawet;)

[Mastermolt]

Hmm, cała seria gier ma naprawdę niesamowity klimat. Prawdę mówiąc dawno tak nie wsiąkłem od czasów pierwszej trylogii Gotica. Jeśli chodzi o trzecią część to zauważyłem, że EA najprawdopodobniej za bardzo naciskało Bioware na jak najszybsze zakończenie prac i wypuszczenie gry. Tak jak się przyglądałem, a bardzo lubię różne dziwne rzeczy wyszukiwać w grach to twórcy po prostu tym zakończeniem zostawili sobie furtkę dla kolejnych DLC. Po prostu zbyt wiele nieścisłości, no i sam fakt, że zakończenia różnią się tylko kolorem błysku. Zobaczymy co czas pokaże i czy Bioware się zrehabilituje w naszych oczach. Jak na moje to ta cała afera to po prostu jakiś niesmaczny chwyt marketingowy, żeby od nas wyciągnąć jak najwięcej kasy.

[sargon1986]

Na podstawie tego co usłyszałem o zmianie zakończenia ME3 od developerow i na twitterze, wnioskuję ze teoria indoktrynacji będzie ogłoszona jako prawdziwa. Mam nadzieję.... Napewno byłoby to najlepsze wyjście z sytuacji dla Bioware.

[Hitokiri83]

Nie wiem gdzie wrzucić ponieważ temat z zakończeniami został zamknięty, wrzucam więc tutaj


Znalazłem to na angielskim socialu, wywiad z Patrickem Weeksem po PAXie (chyba)

Okay,
here is what I asked Patrick Weekes, and his answers as best as I can
remember them. I've paraphrased but I'm doing my best to stick to what
he said rather than introduce any interpretation.

THESE ARE NOT DIRECT QUOTES.

-Is there still a setting to explore after the ending? Is everything ruined?

The setting is definitely not ruined. We still have a big, lively galaxy.

-Will
long-distance superluminal travel still be possible post-Ending? (will
Tali or Wrex or Garrus see their homeworlds again? Will everyone
starve?)

Galactic civilization will rebuild. The mass relays were
not necessary for interstellar flight. Remember, what does it say in
the Codex about the speed of ships? That's right, 12 lightyears per
(day? hour? minute?). And that's only the cruising speed, not the
maximum speed.

People have never needed to research basic FTL
improvements before because they have mass relays. With the relays gone,
new technology will increase that speed. Additionally, the element zero
cores of the dead/controlled Reapers can be used to improve FTL drives.
http://fi.somethinga... ... Starflight will continue using conventional FTL.http://fi.somethinga... ... -siren.gif

-Why did Joker leave Shep behind?

Joker would never abandon Shep without a good reason. Hopefully this will be clear in the Expanded Cut.

-Why can EDI survive the Destroy ending?

We
argued a lot about this, I said that she was made of Reapertech and
should therefore be destroyed, but (unclear, don't remember - wish I'd
been able to ask a followup as his response doesn't make much sense)

-Did anyone on the Citadel survive?

Yes.
We would never, ever do anything that made the player feel, on replay,
that it would be better for everyone on the Citadel if they just died.
The Citadel has emergency shelters and kinetic barriers - even if it
blows up, millions might survive. http://fi.somethinga... ... -siren.gif You should assume that everyone plot-important on the Citadel survived. http://fi.somethinga... ... -siren.gif

-Is it better for Kelly Chambers if we talk her into suicide?

No, see above.

-Who wrote the death of Joker's sister?

I did! We intentionally did not connect the dots. We were very interested to see how fast gamers figured it out.

-Whose idea was it to make the Rayya fall out of the sky if you destroy the Quarian fleet?

Someone in the audio department, it was brilliant.

-Did the mass relays pull an Arrival and go supernova?

No, they didn't. (i'm paraphrasing here, please don't interpret this too hard) They overloaded, they didn't rupture. http://fi.somethinga... ... iren.gifWe
really didn't mean to imply that the whole galaxy had been destroyed.
People interpreted the ending in ways we really didn't expect. http://fi.somethinga... ... -siren.gif

(Mr.
Weekes dropped a lot of hints that he really didn't like the ending. He
also said something that was almost 100% verbatim from the Penny Arcade
Forum post often attributed to him)

-Why did Legion pull a 180 from his Mass Effect 2 philosophy?

He
and the Geth were backed into a corner. They'd been made a lot dumber
by the attack on the Dyson swarm. There was no other choice for Geth
survival.

-What was up with the Rachni story? Why did we get railroaded?

Welcome
to game development. In some games (Alpha Protocol) they make a bold
choice where some decisions can knock entire missions out of the story.
At BioWare, we never want people to be locked out of content due to a
decision several games ago. We just didn't have the resources to do an
alternate for the Rachni mission, so we decided that the Rachni mission
could occur whether or not players saved the Queen.

-Why didn't (X squadmate from ME2) return?

There
was a very ugly month of development where we fought out who would
return. We knew we had to have a smaller cast so we could fit in more
squad banter. Eventually we decided to bring Garrus and Tali back, so
they could be squadmates in all three games. We also knew we'd have Vega
in order for new players to have someone dumber than they were.

I
was very resentful of Vega at first because I thought he was taking a
slot that could've gone to a ME2 character, but he grew on me.

-Why did EDI have cameltoe?

We don't get a lot of feedback from the art department but (unclear, wish I remembered this better http://fi.somethinga...ilies/frown.gif )

Lots
of discussion about how he was uncomfortable doing Pinocchio stories
for both Legion and EDI because 'EDI was fine, she was an AI, she was
cool - do we really need her to turn into Commander Data? We had seven
seasons of Data, that was enough.'

-Why did you write Pinocchio stories for all the synthetic characters?

See above

-What was up with the Human Reaper in ME2? Why did it look so dumb?

We
wanted to use the Suicide Mission to show several steps of the Reaper
development process, from human reaper embryo all the way to cuttlefish.
But the mission grew too complicated so it was cut for time.

Do the Reapers really only generate one capital ship per cycle? How do they ever break even?

Well,
we never totally pinned that down. But this cycle was really anomalous.
They don't normally take any capital-size Reaper losses at all.

-What was up with Kai Leng? How do you feel about him?

We
really wanted to have a recurring antagonist for Shep, a 'Darth Maul'
(his words). But I feel like there was some definite conflict between
cutscene and gameplay there, and I think it's something we have to work
on.

'He was a great antagonist in the books' http://fi.somethinga... ... ot-lol.gif

-Why did we only get top and bottom dialogue choices, no middle?

Part
of it was resources. Part of it is that Mass Effect 3 is a war story
and it's really hard for Shep to feel middling about the Reapers.

-How did YOU feel about the ending?

(I didn't ask this, but he seems to have gone to GREAT lengths to think ways around a lot of stuff the ending implied.)

Why no female (alien X?)

Resource
limitations. They have a very strict budget for how many different
characters they can use in a given area. Some are basically free - if
you have human males you have Batarians because they're humans with
funny heads, if you have human females you have asari, etc.

Where was Harbinger? Can we ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL of him?

I definitely want more closure on Harbinger. That'd be hilarious. Stop punching yourself, Harbinger.

How did the Reapers storm the Citadel? Why didn't they shut down the relays as per their original plan once they had control?

Originally
we planned to have a cutscene of Reapers taking over, Reaper monsters
punching buttons, et cetera. But we cut it, partially for resource
reasons and partly because it disrupted the pacing.

The Reapers
didn't shut down the mass relays because the Keepers interfered with
that. (I wish I could've asked a follow-up here, it doesn't make much
sense.)

Why don't Ken and Gabby have more dialogue?

They
actually have a bunch more on disk, but we somehow introduced a bug
where their dialogue is tied to your approval level with Ash. If Ash has
low approval, or isn't present, most of Ken and Gabby's dialogue won't
play.

Why do you guys do Star Wars style space battles instead of the battles described in the codex?

We
want to provide a familiar, compelling visual experience for people who
grew up on Star Wars and stuff like that. These are some of our
favorite parts of the game.

***

Things I wish I'd asked:

Why the drat Starchild?

What was up with the Stargazer? (He touched on the Stargazer once and pretty much said 'oh, yeah, the Stargazer.'

Again:
NOT DIRECT QUOTES. These are NOT OFFICIAL BIOWARE STATEMENTS. Please
don't gently caress Patrick Weekes over by posting these as 'official
BioWare PR' or whatever. Please feel free to ask me follow-up questions,
as I definitely didn't cover the whole conversation with him.

My
takeaway was: the epilogue DLC is probably going to do a lot of good
and be pretty well written, and Patrick Weekes should've been lead
writer on ME3.

[Marta Silk]

Mi brakuje jeszcze jedengo-przed ostatnią misją Samanta powiedziała;że chciałaby mieć ze mną domek z białym płotem;dwójką dzieci i labradorem.Drużyna przeżyła-czy aż takim problem dla BW było dograć kilka cut-scenek odpowiednich do rozmów npc-ów i później puścić? Widok mojej Jane i Samanty siedzących w ogródku;przy domu z białym płotem i bawiącymi się dźiećmi nie jest chyba zbyt trudny do zrobienia;a jest na pewno sensowniejszy od widoku osmalonej pierści Shepard leżącej nie wiadomo gdzie...