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[ragnorok87]

Zebron is reaL wrote...

I would have liked, more than anything, few good endings. Not necessarily happy ones, but ones of quality and lasting appeal, something to look back fondly upon as a fitting conclusion.

What the BW plans seem to be are adding content to validate the preexisting ending as opposed to correcting any issues made apparent by the fanbase. Clarifying elements of the bad ending doesn't make it a good one.

As this message is more vague than anything I can think of right now, I'll wait. I still refuse to play ME3 but I'm still holding the line, I guess.

i will continue to hold the line. i have an idea. for all those dissatisfyed by the terrible piece of crap waste of time no point confusing epîc fail choices dont matter betrays everything mass effect stands for ENDINGS if bioware comes out with dlc but it doesnt change these terrible endings i say we all take our mass effect 3 copies (1 and 2 as well would have greater impact)  and return them enmass to game stores or pawn shops. what would be better is to also tape such an occurence and send it to bioware. i think if bioware seen this despite being brainwashed and indoctrinated by ea they will finally awaken and make a better ending.

[ragnorok87]

i think an expansion pack is a great idea.

[kbct]

Jarrett Lee wrote...

Hey guys, one thing I want to stress is to not make any assumptions until we are able to give you more information. Right now, anything about free vs paid is speculation only. I think most of you get that, but just want to stress it.

We are speculating because even after Ray's statement today, we still don't know the plan.

[Zanath]

The fact that Bioware is starting to work on an ending DLC is not really making me happy.
The good part is, they react to the fan reaction.
But what I find devastating, is that they REALLY expected this ridiculous ending to be not only acceptable, but "great".
I believed in the indoctrination theory because it was the only thing that made sense, and there was a LOT of foreshadowing. But if Bioware was really lieing all along with all their promises, and made such a nonsensical ending while there was a much more believable and logical one right here ?

Man, that's just pathetic.
And yes, it's "damned if they do, damned if they don't". When you basically p*ss on your consumers by lieing to them, milking them and when you really think that such a nonsensical garbage can be an adequate ending, you REALLY, REALLY had it coming.

Modifié par Zanath, 21 mars 2012 - 08:07 .

[Farbautisonn]

Jarrett Lee wrote...

Hey guys, one thing I want to stress is to not make any assumptions until we are able to give you more information. Right now, anything about free vs paid is speculation only. I think most of you get that, but just want to stress it.

-Hahahahha... I think I got that 

[acrb101]

wileydsp wrote...

That's not neccessarly fair to say.  I own ME1, 2, 3, and DA2 along with SWTOR but none are registered to my account here.  I am no less knowledgeable then anyone with icons under their name.  But I don't think it's very smart to write off a company that has shown it holds a lot of promise in the video game nitche.  It'd be like swearing off BMW because well the tires on your car weren't up to your expectations.  (ehh weak analogy my bad, it's almost the end of the work day, I'm brain fried)

Disregarding the analogy ( )  I agree. BioWare has made many great games, and maybe they didn't please the majority of thier fanbase with the ending(s), but the entire rest of the game up to that very last point was great. BioWare has made many other great games as well, its illogical (in my opinion) to write them off because of this one flop, which may even be remedied with DLC. Who knows? Maybe the DLC will be free. Like what was posted earlier, the majority of what people are saying is based off speculation.

[IST]

Farbautisonn wrote...

@OP:

I hate to burst your bubble... but they havent promised an ending DLC. They have hinted at one in the very vaguest possible terms. So Im not getting my hopes up.

Besides... again. Even their Twitter denies a significant alteration of the game.

Um. Hello Indoctrination Theory.

No alteration required.

Comes 'ready to rumble from the rubble'.

MP additions not-included nor cared about.
See packaging for more details.

[ragnorok87]

Zanath wrote...

The fact that Bioware is starting to work on an ending DLC is not really making me happy.
The good part is, they react to the fan reaction.
But what I find devastating, is that they REALLY expected this ridiculous ending to be not only acceptable, but "great".
I believed in the indoctrination theory because it was the only thing that made sense, and there was a LOT of foreshadowing. But if Bioware was really lieing all along with all their promises, and made such a nonsensical ending while there was a much more believable and logical one right here ?

Man, that's just pathetic.
And yes, it's "damned if they do, damned if they don't". When you basically p*ss on your consumers by lieing to them, milking them and when you really think that such a nonsensical garbage can be an adequate ending, you REALLY, REALLY had it coming.

i think if bioware does not give a proper ending worthy of the mass effect sries and even themselves it shall eventually lead to an epic downfall of their company. and they would totally deserve it. and when bioware is laid to rest because of what they have done i shall be there to help make the coffin for them. if they dont fix this they deserve what ever negativly happens to them. by not making a proper ending to mass effect series they have made a great crime against humanity.

[toolfan9284]

DEMIKLY wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

@OP:

I hate to burst your bubble... but they havent promised an ending DLC. They have hinted at one in the very vaguest possible terms. So Im not getting my hopes up.

Besides... again. Even their Twitter denies a significant alteration of the game.

Um. Hello Indoctrination Theory.

No alteration required.

Comes 'ready to rumble from the rubble'.

MP additions not-included nor cared about.
See packaging for more details.

Faith I have.  The line I am holding.

[Moonshadow_Dark]

What if the ending stays the same



And the DLC will add content to explain how the original endings make sense?

/ConspiracyKeanu

[Lycius]

Kailjaiden wrote...

Yet some are still are angry and making comments like "Bioware is not the same anymore" or "Bioware are way to money hungry." PLEASE STOP THIS. Bioware does care about what we think or what we have to say. It is ONLY because of players constructive critism that Bioware now have plans to create future ending DLC. They plan to address people's concerns and bring closure to the story like many of us our requesting. 

So here's what I don't appriciate from people, direct attacks on Bioware, EA, or the players who infact liked the endings. That needs to stop. If this game and it's players and also Bioware bring out such anger from within you, then why are you still here? While I did not like the ending myself, I never once threw a tantrum and insulted the community.

On a different note, I do not believe for one second though that the DLC will be free. I would GLADLY pay for it. Not because I'm some blind fan boy who throw money at anything called "Mass Effect," but simply because making DLC requires time and money. So hey, oh well I didn't like the ending, Bioware is trying to extend it for us, so here's another 10 bucks. I really don't care about it. I just want more Mass Effect content to play. Thanks for reading.

Please show the evidence you have that Bioware is doing anything of the sort? There has been zero statements from Bioware saying they were changing anything.

[wileydsp]

.[/quote]

i will continue to hold the line. i have an idea. for all those dissatisfyed by the terrible piece of crap waste of time no point confusing epîc fail choices dont matter betrays everything mass effect stands for ENDINGS if bioware comes out with dlc but it doesnt change these terrible endings i say we all take our mass effect 3 copies (1 and 2 as well would have greater impact)  and return them enmass to game stores or pawn shops. what would be better is to also tape such an occurence and send it to bioware. i think if bioware seen this despite being brainwashed and indoctrinated by ea they will finally awaken and make a better ending.
[/quote]

This is the type of non constructive stuff that people, in my opinion, should avoid.  You're of the opinion that the endings were not good.  That is prefectly fine, and you have the right to express the opinion as such.  It's kind of glaringly obvious that the writers with BioWare do not share the same opinion as you.  They are within their right as well to hold that idea.  Being disgruntled is one thing, but saying this game isn't worth anything is kind of a shock to me.  I loved most every minute of it.  I had some problems that were consmetic in nature mainly centering around the pause screen/journal layout.  The endings we all seem to have an opinion on.  What's most important is that the company has heard you.  You can't have everything 100 percent changed.  It just isn't possible. Comprimise is pretty much where everything was headed from the very begining. 

[Kailjaiden]

Lycius wrote...

Kailjaiden wrote...

Yet some are still are angry and making comments like "Bioware is not the same anymore" or "Bioware are way to money hungry." PLEASE STOP THIS. Bioware does care about what we think or what we have to say. It is ONLY because of players constructive critism that Bioware now have plans to create future ending DLC. They plan to address people's concerns and bring closure to the story like many of us our requesting. 

So here's what I don't appriciate from people, direct attacks on Bioware, EA, or the players who infact liked the endings. That needs to stop. If this game and it's players and also Bioware bring out such anger from within you, then why are you still here? While I did not like the ending myself, I never once threw a tantrum and insulted the community.

On a different note, I do not believe for one second though that the DLC will be free. I would GLADLY pay for it. Not because I'm some blind fan boy who throw money at anything called "Mass Effect," but simply because making DLC requires time and money. So hey, oh well I didn't like the ending, Bioware is trying to extend it for us, so here's another 10 bucks. I really don't care about it. I just want more Mass Effect content to play. Thanks for reading.

Please show the evidence you have that Bioware is doing anything of the sort? There has been zero statements from Bioware saying they were changing anything.

uhh did you read the recent post from Ray?

[Zanath]

ragnorok87 wrote...

i think if bioware does not give a proper ending worthy of the mass effect sries and even themselves it shall eventually lead to an epic downfall of their company. and they would totally deserve it. and when bioware is laid to rest because of what they have done i shall be there to help make the coffin for them. if they dont fix this they deserve what ever negativly happens to them. by not making a proper ending to mass effect series they have made a great crime against humanity.

Seriously, even if they fix it, it still means they thought that the first version of the ending, despite the outright lies and nonsense, was actually "great".
This alone makes me speechless and /facepalming the Great Wall. It's just... unbelievable.

[Lycius]

Jarrett Lee wrote...

Hey guys, one thing I want to stress is to not make any assumptions until we are able to give you more information. Right now, anything about free vs paid is speculation only. I think most of you get that, but just want to stress it.

Any chance you are going to be taking down that blatant lie about MP not being required for best endings post?

[Lycius]

Kailjaiden wrote...

Lycius wrote...

Kailjaiden wrote...

Yet some are still are angry and making comments like "Bioware is not the same anymore" or "Bioware are way to money hungry." PLEASE STOP THIS. Bioware does care about what we think or what we have to say. It is ONLY because of players constructive critism that Bioware now have plans to create future ending DLC. They plan to address people's concerns and bring closure to the story like many of us our requesting. 

So here's what I don't appriciate from people, direct attacks on Bioware, EA, or the players who infact liked the endings. That needs to stop. If this game and it's players and also Bioware bring out such anger from within you, then why are you still here? While I did not like the ending myself, I never once threw a tantrum and insulted the community.

On a different note, I do not believe for one second though that the DLC will be free. I would GLADLY pay for it. Not because I'm some blind fan boy who throw money at anything called "Mass Effect," but simply because making DLC requires time and money. So hey, oh well I didn't like the ending, Bioware is trying to extend it for us, so here's another 10 bucks. I really don't care about it. I just want more Mass Effect content to play. Thanks for reading.

Please show the evidence you have that Bioware is doing anything of the sort? There has been zero statements from Bioware saying they were changing anything.

uhh did you read the recent post from Ray?

Did you?

[DontReallyKnow]

Kailjaiden wrote...

Yet some are still are angry and making comments like "Bioware is not the same anymore" or "Bioware are way to money hungry." PLEASE STOP THIS. Bioware does care about what we think or what we have to say. It is ONLY because of players constructive critism that Bioware now have plans to create future ending DLC. They plan to address people's concerns and bring closure to the story like many of us our requesting. 

So here's what I don't appriciate from people, direct attacks on Bioware, EA, or the players who infact liked the endings. That needs to stop. If this game and it's players and also Bioware bring out such anger from within you, then why are you still here? While I did not like the ending myself, I never once threw a tantrum and insulted the community.

On a different note, I do not believe for one second though that the DLC will be free. I would GLADLY pay for it. Not because I'm some blind fan boy who throw money at anything called "Mass Effect," but simply because making DLC requires time and money. So hey, oh well I didn't like the ending, Bioware is trying to extend it for us, so here's another 10 bucks. I really don't care about it. I just want more Mass Effect content to play. Thanks for reading.

Very much this ^^^.  Excellent post!

[Kailjaiden]

Lycius wrote...

Kailjaiden wrote...

Lycius wrote...

Kailjaiden wrote...

Yet some are still are angry and making comments like "Bioware is not the same anymore" or "Bioware are way to money hungry." PLEASE STOP THIS. Bioware does care about what we think or what we have to say. It is ONLY because of players constructive critism that Bioware now have plans to create future ending DLC. They plan to address people's concerns and bring closure to the story like many of us our requesting. 

So here's what I don't appriciate from people, direct attacks on Bioware, EA, or the players who infact liked the endings. That needs to stop. If this game and it's players and also Bioware bring out such anger from within you, then why are you still here? While I did not like the ending myself, I never once threw a tantrum and insulted the community.

On a different note, I do not believe for one second though that the DLC will be free. I would GLADLY pay for it. Not because I'm some blind fan boy who throw money at anything called "Mass Effect," but simply because making DLC requires time and money. So hey, oh well I didn't like the ending, Bioware is trying to extend it for us, so here's another 10 bucks. I really don't care about it. I just want more Mass Effect content to play. Thanks for reading.

Please show the evidence you have that Bioware is doing anything of the sort? There has been zero statements from Bioware saying they were changing anything.

uhh did you read the recent post from Ray?

Did you?

yes

[Spectre Chris]

PresidentCowboy wrote...

Jarrett Lee wrote...

Hey guys, one thing I want to stress is to not make any assumptions until we are able to give you more information. Right now, anything about free vs paid is speculation only. I think most of you get that, but just want to stress it.

Doesn't sound like you're denying ending DLC though

This is a very exciting observation.

[TheChosen0ne]

how the hell you know they will be making a new ending?

[KBomb]

Kailjaiden wrote...
yes

 
Then perhaps it's your comprehension. No where does it say Bioware is changing anything concerning the endings.

Modifié par KBomb, 21 mars 2012 - 08:21 .

[Lycius]

Kailjaiden wrote...

Lycius wrote...

Kailjaiden wrote...

Lycius wrote...

Kailjaiden wrote...

Yet some are still are angry and making comments like "Bioware is not the same anymore" or "Bioware are way to money hungry." PLEASE STOP THIS. Bioware does care about what we think or what we have to say. It is ONLY because of players constructive critism that Bioware now have plans to create future ending DLC. They plan to address people's concerns and bring closure to the story like many of us our requesting. 

So here's what I don't appriciate from people, direct attacks on Bioware, EA, or the players who infact liked the endings. That needs to stop. If this game and it's players and also Bioware bring out such anger from within you, then why are you still here? While I did not like the ending myself, I never once threw a tantrum and insulted the community.

On a different note, I do not believe for one second though that the DLC will be free. I would GLADLY pay for it. Not because I'm some blind fan boy who throw money at anything called "Mass Effect," but simply because making DLC requires time and money. So hey, oh well I didn't like the ending, Bioware is trying to extend it for us, so here's another 10 bucks. I really don't care about it. I just want more Mass Effect content to play. Thanks for reading.

Please show the evidence you have that Bioware is doing anything of the sort? There has been zero statements from Bioware saying they were changing anything.

uhh did you read the recent post from Ray?

Did you?

yes

Apparently, you didn't grasp it's meaning then. Ray's statement was nothing but PR spin of basically him saying that 75 critics loved the game(Because they are paid to or simply didn't finish it.) and that they are "pouring over our feedback"

Not one place in that article said anything about a fix or DLC. You even have a Bioware rep advising against assumptions in this very thread. My advice would be to read it again and change the title of this thread since it's completely false.

[Kailjaiden]

KBomb wrote...

Kailjaiden wrote...
yes

 
Then perhaps it's your comprehension. No where does it say Bioware is changing anything concerning the endings.

I never said changing the ending. I said address our concerns and bring further closure.

[Lycius]

Kailjaiden wrote...

KBomb wrote...

Kailjaiden wrote...
yes

 
Then perhaps it's your comprehension. No where does it say Bioware is changing anything concerning the endings.

I never said changing the ending. I said address our concerns and bring further closure.

The name of the thread is "Bioware is working on ending DLC"

That's a wild assuption that's even been called out by Bioware.