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#151
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Kailjaiden wrote...

wileydsp wrote...

There should be no reason why they don't charge for an ending DLC package. There are people who liked their endings, and they should not be forced into accepting a separate ending package that they never wanted. Let this be a choice for those who want it. BioWare, if publishing an ending DLC, should charge since they are creating something new...that actually costs money to produce. They are producing it to meet the demand by the consumer for it. I will buy the ending DLC if it is published because I want it.

Let's not forget that a lot of this debate was centered around the idea of player choice. It is nonsensical to eliminate someone's choice if they don't want to be forced to accept a new ending.

I think it's amazing that BioWare is assumingly addressing the concerns of the community. I think it's great business practice, but we have to understand how businesses work. There is a completely functional ending in the game (it's the player's opinion on whether they approve of it or not). So if the player wants a new ending, pay for it, be happy that the issue was addressed, and move forward. If BioWare produces a new ending DLC, they have done their part in trying to satisfy the problems of some of their community (I only say some because it is not ALL). We need to do our part to meet in the middle. We got what we wanted in a new ending, BioWare listened, but the compromising part is that we have to pay for it.


I can't express enough I how much I agree with this.


At this point charging for a decent high quality ending I don't mind paying a little extra for it.

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Mojenator12345 wrote...

Would rather pay for a substantial revision of the end with new voice acting and cinematics than get something crappy for free. Do it right. Charge if you have to.


I agree.

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I agree with the above posters. While I haven't personally finished the game, I don't see why BioWare should give me content that takes extra time and money for free. I bought the game they produced gladly. The revised endings are fan-service as far as I'm concerned, therefore optional, therefore chargable. I'm very pleased and surprised they're even doing something about it, they had every right to ignore the community and leave it. If they feel the need to extend that fan-service to provide it free then great, but that's BioWare's choice, not ours.

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I wish all this was a hallucination to Shepard and we will see what heppened next he woke up after it :)

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I support you guys, and I don't care about having to spend money on DLC you put effort and energy into these games and DLC so I am willing to pay the 15-20 dollars to buy the stuff. After spending 50+ dollars on a game I have a problem with anyone complaining about having to spend just a little extra to improve their gaming experience. It is juvinile and living proof of that persons short sightedness. Without money BioWare and EA could not do what you guys do. Thanks for the update.

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I'm going to state here and now that I will pay for DLC that includes a better ending. 

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Daiyus wrote...

I agree with the above posters. While I haven't personally finished the game, I don't see why BioWare should give me content that takes extra time and money for free. I bought the game they produced gladly. The revised endings are fan-service as far as I'm concerned, therefore optional, therefore chargable. I'm very pleased and surprised they're even doing something about it, they had every right to ignore the community and leave it. If they feel the need to extend that fan-service to provide it free then great, but that's BioWare's choice, not ours.


Not really, because what they sold us was falsely advertised.  I paid for the ending that they described, one with tonnes of choices, extremely varying, emotional, non-plot hole filled, etc. And we did not get that.  We paid for whatever this revised ending is going to be, not this crap one we got.

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Nyila wrote...

Mojenator12345 wrote...

Would rather pay for a substantial revision of the end with new voice acting and cinematics than get something crappy for free. Do it right. Charge if you have to.


I agree.


Same here.

I want quality DLC not some half-assed free DLC.

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I RJay I

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Personally, if it's paid DLC then I'll just watch it on youtube or read about it somewhere. I feel like I already paid for this ending, which we were promised and not given in the original game. Damn right I'll play it if it's free, and I'll make new saves and make multiple playthroughs and buy all future DLC.

But if it's paid DLC, I won't be buying any DLC for ME3 and I will be reluctant to buy any Bioware product again, I certainly won't pre-order it. I'll give it a week and see what the fans think before I buy it.

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ebevan91 wrote...

Nyila wrote...

Mojenator12345 wrote...

Would rather pay for a substantial revision of the end with new voice acting and cinematics than get something crappy for free. Do it right. Charge if you have to.


I agree.


Same here.

I want quality DLC not some half-assed free DLC.


We shouldn't have to choose between the two.  But if I was forced to then I would be more inclined to pay.  But I would wait for it to be on sale or something.

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Refuse option, no need to alter anything too.

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I think CE owners should get it free. But maybe that's because I'm a CE owner. LOL. Hey, I'm just being honest. *shrugs shoulders*

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Personally Id feel abit conned if I had to pay for a "revised ending" DLC. However if it is good, and I mean... REALLY good, I might be inclined to compromise for "the greater good" and to get a worthy ending for my toons. However if I had to pay I wouldnt feel very favorable toward Bioware and I would likely not start up another trilogy. And even in the off case that the DLC is free and great, I would still be very weary of starting up a new trilogy and investing in that with the "artistic direction" that bioware storytelling has taken.

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atleast it's true that making pre-ending DLC will probably not be too wanted now. but if the ending is "fixed" interest in pre-ending DLC probably increases by a mile

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ebevan91 wrote...

Nyila wrote...

Mojenator12345 wrote...

Would rather pay for a substantial revision of the end with new voice acting and cinematics than get something crappy for free. Do it right. Charge if you have to.


I agree.


Same here.

I want quality DLC not some half-assed free DLC.

I second this. I want a worthy ending for the trilogy, not "blah blah blah, and they lived happily ever after!"



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 If I hear that the new ending dlc rolls with indoc. theory or significantly adds / changes the ending I will seriously sing for joy! :lol:  No doubt I will buy it and do another playthough.  If the new endings have variety and are cool, I will probably buy all of the coming dlc like I did for the last two mass effect games because it will make the game replayable.

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I dont think there will be any gameplay elements to it. They at a minimum need to re-add all the cut dialogue, and increase the ending cinematic by several minutes explaining the Normandy and why a certain someone is laying rubble.

That's just the bare minimum for me.

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Bioware you are wonderful and the dogs b*****ll***cks to me. I liked the ending and could accept it and the whole game is the best I've ever played. Even though the end was okay for me it left me with questions and theories which I have enjoyed thinking about but I will be interested to see what you do with it. I am really glad that you are doing this for the other players too because I felt their pain and for you too because it's such a great game it doesn't deserve the negative attention it has had when there is so much positive to it.

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Casey Hudson is not Mother Teresa. He and his co-workers gotta eat too...jeez
Besides, we all have something to talk about, so thats more than I can say for many games...

Modifié par mybudgee, 22 mars 2012 - 05:48 .


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The OP's forum title is misleading. Bioware's statement speaks of clarifying the existing ending(s), not adding alternate ones.

In fact, Bioware's appeal to "artistic integrity" would if anything suggest that the current endings were not going to be touched, and that DLC efforts were merely aimed at clarifying what happened, for example, to Shepard's squad-mates, the fate of the fleet in Sol system, the fate of the various civilizations after Shepard's "choice," the fate of his LI - all of which, I might add, could be done in a page of text.

How any of such "clarifying" could satisfy anyone angry about the ending is beyond me.

What needs to change is the ending itself, and their treatment of Shepard in it: Bioware transformed their hero Shepard in a 5 minute finale into a meek genocidal mouse, and no amount of clarifying is going to change this, or change the rage fans feel about it.

Modifié par Drogonion, 30 mars 2012 - 04:03 .


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Kailjaiden wrote...

Yet some are still are angry and making comments like "Bioware is not the same anymore" or "Bioware are way to money hungry." PLEASE STOP THIS. Bioware does care about what we think or what we have to say. It is ONLY because of players constructive critism that Bioware now have plans to create future ending DLC. They plan to address people's concerns and bring closure to the story like many of us are requesting. 

So here's what I don't appriciate from people, direct attacks on Bioware, EA, or the players who infact liked the endings. That needs to stop. If this game and it's players and also Bioware bring out such anger from within you, then why are you still here? While I did not like the ending myself, I never once threw a tantrum and insulted the community.

On a different note, I do not believe for one second though that the DLC will be free. I would GLADLY pay for it. Not because I'm some blind fan boy who throw's money at anything called "Mass Effect," but simply because making DLC requires time and money. So hey, oh well I didn't like the ending, Bioware is trying to extend it for us, so here's another 10 bucks. I really don't care about it. I just want more Mass Effect content to play. Thanks for reading.

For those who are thinking I am making stuff up....

"Building on their research, Exec Producer Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey. You’ll hear more on this in April. We’re working hard to maintain the right balance between the artistic integrity of the original story while addressing the fan feedback we’ve received. This is in addition to our existing plan to continue providing new Mass Effect content and new full games, so rest assured that your journey in the Mass Effect universe can, and will, continue. "

http://social.biowar.../index/10385157

While this does not specifically say "WE ARE CHANGING THE ENDING," it does however say that they are working on content to provide more clarity and further closure for those who seek more. Please have a little faith.

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Second Edit : The title, I did not mean for it for to be deceptive and I'm sorry I you feel it is. I will not change the topic title though because it is true. Refer to my previous quote, Bioware is working on SOME TYPE of ending DLC. Nobody knows what the content will include but there will atleast be something. Again I nor Ray, or Casey say anothing about changing, only extending, clarifying, and answer questions.

In any case thank you all so much for replying to my thread and giving your input. Sincerly, The Kail.




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#172
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The sad truth is that videogame's ending are a commodity experienced by a large minority of players. If you want to see great endings, as grand as the rest of the game if not better, prepare yourself for more and more ending DLCs. Bioware is not the first company that will release an ending DLC (if they will do one: right now it's just lot of speculation from everyone).

It's simple business: it does not make sense to spend a lot of resources on the ending when only 10/20% of the players will actually play that part and the rest will watch it on youtube at best. So, devs release endings as good as they can be with the resources at hand. And frankly, they are generally horrible in most videogames.

Now, with the popularity of DLCs, they have a new opportunity. They can release an alternative ending pack via DLC if there's an answer. The result is to squeeze more money from the hardcore players that are requesting it, the same hardcore players that are willing to finish the game, play it multiple times, spend money and times on the various product connected to the franchise. The vital minority wich is at the heart of every popular videogame.

It's really sad and ugly but that it's even our fault. If players would stop to follow the hype and try to finish the game they play (at least if they enjoy the experience) we would not see those kind of things. Companies would be forced to consider the endings as a priority instead of things like kinect or MP.

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#173
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Was'nt BW going to make a statment at the end of this month? Sorry guys but time is runing a litle short!

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No one should have to pay for Clarity and closure, those two things should have been included in the game when it shipped.

However if they add new endings, that I would gladly pay for.

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I have modest expectations. For me I'd love to even start playing this game because I refuse to do it until I can import the face from ME1/ME2.