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We Held The Line, We Won, Now Let Bioware Do Their Work


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#26
sH0tgUn jUliA

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It's not over 'til it's over.

Hold the line.

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Tyrzun

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We did not win. Understand what you are reading. In fact it was just another slap in the face.

At first I was excited to read Rey's response. HE is why we have Bioware. Then we get insulted again by being called a small minority and have critic scores thrown in our face again as another insult.

That is NOT an olive branch.

He does not make any mention how they promised 16 endings nor promised they would be tying up all loose ends that matter. He's acting like THEY are the victims. When they promised one product and delivered another. He's not taking ownership of that at all. Doesn't matter if it's art or not. IF you tell someone there is a painting of a tree in the box, sell them the box, and then we find out we got a painting of a frog in the box, that's WRONG!!!!

Modifié par Tyrzun, 21 mars 2012 - 06:54 .


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MassEffecter132

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Hold the Line

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C Trayne

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all he says is they are going to add more closure and clarity to the current endings... IDK about anyone else but i wanted an ending that didn't involve mister glowing god child and endings A B and C... Its a step but still not a victory in my book

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Stygian1

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Wrong, they have absolutely no idea what we are angry about...

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Nauks

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I still need to hear that they did not intend to continue the ending as DLC in plain English.
So imo no one's winning anything yet.

#32
ConradsLaces

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There's nothing "clear and concise" in that quote... if there is, please lay out exactly WHAT Bioware is going to do.

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Vergil_dgk

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Agree with the OP. We gain nothing from bashing Bioware. Hold the line, keep your calm and let them deliver what they promise. They should be fully aware what will happen if they don't by now ;-)

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They have not confirmed anything as of yet.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

I need proof. We haven't won anything. PR TACTICS ARE BEING USED TO DISSUADE US.


This, I will beleive it when I see it, persoanlly I just see it as PR doublespeak to get everyone to shut up

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lokiarchetype

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We didn't win yet.

You clearly do not know what Hold the Line means.

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SuperVulcan

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Its not over until they announce something.

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Doctor Uburian

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Keep holding the line, this is not over yet.

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I personally see this new response by Bioware co-founder as more PR. They are still defending the ending, trying to label the people that dislike it as the minority, when every poll either here or on other sites say otherwise. There is also a great disconnect with reviews of the game, big magazines and sites that do a lot of advertising or in IGN case they had one of their own in the game. They give the game great reviews, even though they have a conflict of inerest, and smaller but more honest reviewers of the game echo our dislike of not only the endings but how the endings reflect on the series lore itself.

All I got out of the Co-founder speech was PR damage control, defense of the ending and of the staff, trying to make the people that disliked the ending as a minority, and watch out we are answering questions in DLC so get out your wallets.

If the game is so good, and we are so few. Why does he say anything at all. It boils down to this they are realizing that they can't sweep this under the rug like they did DA2. DA2 had supposed critical acclaim, but the user score of the game was very low. I think it comes down to this sites and magazines that Bioware and EA pay big advertising too always seem to rate the games favorable, Smaller reviewers, and user score their games Honestly.

Hold the line

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Wrathra

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All I see is alot of talk and deflection, they haven't done anything yet.

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Rothgar49

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Holding the line until i know for sure

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Hendrik.III

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They have not promised us anything. The latest articles have all misinterpreted what has been said in interviews. They are working on something alright, but it might well be something we will not settle for.

We want choice-related endings. Nothing more, nothing less.

Modifié par Hendrik.III, 21 mars 2012 - 06:55 .


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Now lets see all the people that thought their destructive comments were constructive.

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Mixxer5

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MassEffecter132 wrote...

Once I see the DLC, we'll have then won


And once we see that DLC wasn't rushed this time as well...

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Waiting until April.

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StarGateGod

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We have not won, we have held the line and are holding strong but until the product is delivered this isnt over, we must keep up pressure while remaining polite and respectful to Bioware
Hold the line

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Atraiyu Wrynn

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It's not over. It is a positive step but it's not over. Once they announce a new ending dlc and explain the a bit of what it will do, I will give them space. Not a moment sooner.

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ericjdev wrote...

This is exactly right. It's depressing how many of us are behaving poorly when we just got the best news we've had since the beginning of this.


Wake up my friend :

While this is a step to the right direction, they have confirmed NOTHING. The've said they're listening and they'll talk about it in April, nothing more. To celebrate a victory before the war has finished is not wise, you could get your hope shattered.

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colateral wrote...

 Bioware has made a clear and concise announcement that they acknowledge the issue that Fans have with the ending and are making real steps to fix it.
"Exec Producer Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey." 
Whatever this new content will be remains to be seen, but those of us involved in the Retake Mass Effect Movement, and other such organizations, must respect Bioware enough to maintain a level head and a civil tounge now that Bioware has announced their intentions to alter/edit/extend the ending to Mass Effect 3. What they have promised to do is something not done lightly. I ask that all attacks on Bioware cease and that those who wish for a fitting end of the series to continue with constructive feedback on the endings in the appropriate bioware forums.
Those who have and continue to berate bioware and their employees are not doing their cause any good, and I ask that those attacks stop. Bioware is now hard at work doing what we have asked, allow them to do their work in peace. 


NOTHING in that statement of his says "We are going to change the ending." Nothing. There will be some "explanations" of the ending. If you infer from this PR statement that you have "won" and that everyone should back down and be quiet, then congratulations, you are doing EXACTLY what they want you to do. Then in April you'll get a patch that has two NPCs talk about the ending for 30 seconds and "what it all means", together with an Alliance News Network ticket that scrolls by on the menu screen that says that "Somehow, gates blew up without destroying solar systems! Scientists baffled!"

And that's what you'll get.

Don't wag your tail like a puppy when they let you have a whiff of a bone. Wait until they actually GIVE YOU the bone. Because nothing in that statement says that they will. With all his talk of Art and artistic and art and art and art (I guess you can declare your own work art now?), I seriously doubt they're going to change one single bit of the ending.

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robbyiscool wrote...

Wrong.

Even the ME Twitter says something like "We're adding content, not changing any" which is what we knew already. They're not planning on fixing anything because they're only listening to whats easiest for them to hear.


Wrong.

Adding content for who did not like ME3 end, and letting the content for who like it.
Stay calm and wait till April.