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[Elite Midget]

You haven't won until the ending has been expanded and changed.

Until that happens any and all celebrations will be premature.

[Mad-Hamlet]

My Response.

[Moondoggie]

Deschi wrote...

Intersting that you throw NGE in the ring... as i didnt like the ME3 ending I have to say i loved both arty and strange ending versions and didnt rage at all. See, Evangelion (the series) became during its running time more and more a tale from a sci-fi-mech-cartoon to psychological drama... it focused on an outer conflict and during its running time it was more and more about innerconflicts. So the artistic and somhow abstract endings were quite fitting... also as it was a lot about Anno's own problems and very autobiographically...

ME3 maybe tried to go this way in its ending but just didnt succeed for several reasons. Such a deep ending needs more signs before that to be established... also the lack of choice and your former decissions of course just hurt the passionate player.

People complained about the change in direction of NGE. Early in the series it was a simple mecha anime with cute girls that had a violent edge then went on a spiral of artistic exploration that people hated accumilating with the ending. People wanted the series to be a simple mecha anime with cute girls that was the issue.

Same thing with ME3 the tone changed at the end and people were angry because they wanted their simple ending that they expected.

The fanboy fallout of ME3 is very similar to NGE for the same reasons.

I suppose a westerner like me and you could probably pass up NGE's turn to precieved weirdness as normal for anime since the western opinion of anime is that it's weird anyay. You expected it with NGE so it did not bother you.

You expected a simple hero ending for ME3 where eveyone would live happily ever after and you'd get to see the galaxy rebuilding and Shepard a hero.

You got something far more complicated that you didn't understand or did not want to and now you feel cheated like everyone else because you didn';t get what you want from the final chapter. Much like the fanboys of NGE back in the 90's.

[Chris-1983]

I will be again a loyal fan and customer if they give me a ending that is worthy for the whole Commander Shepard Saga. An explained ****ty ending stays a ****ty ending.

[Pelle6666]

Not just yet!

[Sesshaku]

We haven't won yet. But they definetly admitted that there was a problem that needed to be solved. I thank's them for that, it was a good but hard decision, and i hope this time they get it right, the saga deserves that, we deserve that, and all their hard work for 5 years deserves that.

[S Atomeha]

Ubergrog wrote...

I don't know what OP was talking about, but I can safely say that we have 'won' nothing. We were told "wait until april" and that's it.

this
hold the line for hope and a better ending

[Elite Midget]

Moondoggie wrote...

moviebuff3000 wrote...

I know. The Ending DLC will be the names of all of the people that hated the ending and then a big F U from BW.

I hope so. I want to see the route Hideaki Anno took with End Of Evangelion when people raged about the ending of the TV series Neon Genesis Evangelon he yielded and made a movie with a new ending but made it even more complicated and included flashes of words which turned out to be parts of death threats and abusive letters he recieved from angry fans.

Hopefully Bioware will instead of making a dumbed down ending to satisfy the masses make an even more interlectually challanging ending so it;'s even harder to understand and then during Shepards flashback flash parts of all the abuse from the "hold the line" crowd. I would laugh so much if they gave them all the finger.

I bet you haven't seen the new universe Evangelion that's all Sunshines and Rainbows.

[savionen]

Depends on how they "change" the ending. If it's DLC/Expansion yes. If they have the Starkid spout off more space-magic, no.

[Giguelingueling]

A message saying they are going to explain us what we didn't understand and telling other people to buy there game because there's so much perfect review from it is not winning in my book.

I will hold the line until we got a new ending

[MaleQuariansFTW]

If they go with the indoctrination theory, they wouldn't have to change anything, it could be an add-on.

Until then, continue to hold the line my friends.

[Kodasi]

We have won, when we get the ending Bioware promised!

Hold the line!

[IsleySilverlord]

Moondoggie wrote...

asdoorip wrote...

Remove the blindfold, you'll be released from fanboysm.

Go outside, You'll experience reality and that there is more to life than a video game. Your life does not end because your video game isn't how you like it. Get off the internet. Stop complaining and go outside and do something fun.

Sais the one who got every single game registered from DA to ME3 wasting his time bashing users for giving an opinion and demanding what they want.

So yes, stop hating on forums and give yourself a little of real life.

[Bizantura]

Dream on.
Read this : http://www.forbes.co...ending-sort-of/

[Spectre_Shepard]

we have not yet won.

almost. almost. but not yet.

[Daedalus1773]

asdoorip wrote...

Daedalus1773 wrote...

Who do Colin Moriarty & Wes Skerven work for? Anyone know offhand what games do they make? 

I want to make sure I never buy them.

Best thing is I believe none of the games they'll ever be part of will be known.

Neither make games. Colin Moriarty is part of the Editorial team at IGN.com. Wes Skerven is just some guy w/ a Twitter account who hasn't finished the game but is in love with the notion of pure artistic vision. It's like the guy is pretending video games exist in a vaccuum without players or customers.

Oh, and hey! The @MassEffect account agrees!

[starscreamerx31]

We havent won quite just yet now we have to keep playing the waiting game to see what they got in store for us until then no dice. I hope they patch the game before releasing any dlc though.

[Silasqtx]

We haven't won anything yet. Keep holding the line!

[IronMadness]

We Won? A PAID DLC is win?

It's just what they want. If the paid DLC will become a mockery of the players and to the industry. Activision or did something so macabre,

[Marta Rio II]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

The fact that Colin Moriarty is totally butt-hurt over this is completely schadenfreudelicious. 

And as far as Bioware is concerned, I'll retain a bit of my skepticism, but I honestly see Ray's announcement today as a very promising development. 

Modifié par Marta Rio II, 21 mars 2012 - 08:05 .

[Aesieru]

No this doesn't make sense, we've been told the opposite numerous times and while I have no doubt that we'll get something that explains the results more, this does not make assets matter, it was not a surprise in any capacity that a person would expect what we were told or for assets to actually do something throughout the game, and we were not given the ability to save or let civilizations die depending on our choices.

The same result occurs no matter how you do it, the way you do it changes to the smallest and most insignificant manner but the end result is always the same.

This is actually more insulting because "content initiatives" is both as vague as you can possibly be, and not a fix. To also say they were "surprised" is to assume that we are all idiots.

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IT WOULD SURPRISE ME INTENSELY IF ANYONE ACTUALLY BOUGHT INTO THIS SIDE-ESCAPE TECHNIQUE THAT THEY'VE JUST USED, BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT OUT OF THE BOOK.

Modifié par Aesieru, 21 mars 2012 - 08:04 .

[HooblaDGN]

We've won a single battle and we can take another step forward. But we still need to fight the war. Hold that line.

Modifié par HooblaDGN, 21 mars 2012 - 08:05 .

[Xellith]

We have NOT won anything. Until its in our computers and fixed then we havent won. HOLD THE LINE TILL WE GET WHAT WE PAID FOR!!!

[Amanthor]

Moondoggie wrote...

Deschi wrote...

Intersting that you throw NGE in the ring... as i didnt like the ME3 ending I have to say i loved both arty and strange ending versions and didnt rage at all. See, Evangelion (the series) became during its running time more and more a tale from a sci-fi-mech-cartoon to psychological drama... it focused on an outer conflict and during its running time it was more and more about innerconflicts. So the artistic and somhow abstract endings were quite fitting... also as it was a lot about Anno's own problems and very autobiographically...

ME3 maybe tried to go this way in its ending but just didnt succeed for several reasons. Such a deep ending needs more signs before that to be established... also the lack of choice and your former decissions of course just hurt the passionate player.

People complained about the change in direction of NGE. Early in the series it was a simple mecha anime with cute girls that had a violent edge then went on a spiral of artistic exploration that people hated accumilating with the ending. People wanted the series to be a simple mecha anime with cute girls that was the issue.

Same thing with ME3 the tone changed at the end and people were angry because they wanted their simple ending that they expected.

The fanboy fallout of ME3 is very similar to NGE for the same reasons.

I suppose a westerner like me and you could probably pass up NGE's turn to precieved weirdness as normal for anime since the western opinion of anime is that it's weird anyay. You expected it with NGE so it did not bother you.

You expected a simple hero ending for ME3 where eveyone would live happily ever after and you'd get to see the galaxy rebuilding and Shepard a hero.

You got something far more complicated that you didn't understand or did not want to and now you feel cheated like everyone else because you didn';t get what you want from the final chapter. Much like the fanboys of NGE back in the 90's.

Yes, because characters going against their established personalities, plot holes the size of the galaxy, and nonsensical children spewing crap we're supposed to buy definately is something that needs to be understood, and is "complicated".

[Moondoggie]

Elite Midget wrote...

I bet you haven't seen the new universe Evangelion that's all Sunshines and Rainbows.

Not sure what you are talking about. The alternative universe episode? Alternative universe manga? The Kindergarten Evangelion manga? The Evangelion movies? Both of which so far i saw in the Cinema in Japan and own on blu ray (Particularly swanky limited edition of Evangelion 2.22 with collectable pice of film strip too)