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[SoraStrife]

Mnementh2230 wrote...

jumpingkaede wrote...

ahandsomeshark wrote...

kyrieee wrote...

There's no point believing stuff like this which is impossible to confirm.
Let's just stick to facts. You don't need this to be upset with BioWare.

this would actually make me less upset with them.

This.  I would re-direct my anger towards Hudson and Walters.  Which is mostly where it's at anyway.

Question:  Why Walters - who is this person, and what does he/she have to do with the ending?

Mac Walters: Lead writer of Mass Effect 3

[Mnementh2230]

Malanek999 wrote...

Mnementh2230 wrote...
Question:  Why Walters - who is this person, and what does he/she have to do with the ending?

Mac Walters was the lead writer and wrote the ending.

Ah, thanks - that helps.

So Walters and Hudson, then...  at least now I know who to direct my ire at.

[Fulgrim88]

Mnementh2230 wrote...

Question:  Why Walters - who is this person, and what does he/she have to do with the ending?

Lead Writer for ME3.

And if this is legit, he's got everything to do with it.

People were suspecting it anyway, though - seeing the stark difference between the quality of the ending and that of the overall game. No way in hell did this go through any kind of peer review.

[GoblinSapper]

Visserian99 wrote...

Interesting to say the least, but I don't think its real. Someone from the writing staff saying something like that now would be career-suicide. I would more readily accept it if this statement came out a couple of years down the line, when this debacle is more settled, one way or the other.

This. Sure in hell no way i'd do this while the company line is "Blow Smoke".

Sorry, but I gotta eat, and I assume this guy does too.

[SaltyWaffles-PD]

Lethys1 wrote...

He's identifiable because he lists what he wrote....it's a well-written post but I doubt it's real. Or the guy doesn't care about losing his job, or he's stupid.

Or he respects artistic and professional integrity--as well as the fans/customers--enough to actually tell the truth instead of the blatant and patronizing PR deflection crap BW/EA is doing.

[ahandsomeshark]

Mnementh2230 wrote...

jumpingkaede wrote...

ahandsomeshark wrote...

kyrieee wrote...

There's no point believing stuff like this which is impossible to confirm.
Let's just stick to facts. You don't need this to be upset with BioWare.

this would actually make me less upset with them.

This.  I would re-direct my anger towards Hudson and Walters.  Which is mostly where it's at anyway.

Question:  Why Walters - who is this person, and what does he/she have to do with the ending?

Walter is the head writer. I don't think Hudson is a writer at all but the project lead/producer.

[Navasha]

Gonna go for fake, on those. I have a hard time believing an actual writer would use such poor grammar.

[wh00ley 06]

If this is real (and I sure hope it is), the concepts of entitlement and the artists' choice go out the window. The Retake Mass Effect movement could petition for an ending written by all the writing staff, which would be a much nobler cause in the eyes of the gaming press.

[jkflipflopDAO]

LordHelfort wrote...

It sounds reasonable enough, given what occurred.

If it is the case someone high up needs to lay down the law to both the lead writer and Casey, since they both got too big for their britches.

That's exactly what it sounds like. They both need to be punished for this.

[LastFadingSmile]

"holo-goodbyes for people I wrote (Mordin, Kasumi, Jack, etc)."

I doubt it's real, but makes me especially skeptical. Unless I'm misremembering or otherwise missed something, no such thing exists for Mordin, does it?

[SaltyWaffles-PD]

Fulgrim88 wrote...

Mnementh2230 wrote...

Question:  Why Walters - who is this person, and what does he/she have to do with the ending?

Lead Writer for ME3.

And if this is legit, he's got everything to do with it.

People were suspecting it anyway, though - seeing the stark difference between the quality of the ending and that of the overall game. No way in hell did this go through any kind of peer review.

I just can't fathom how that came to be. I mean, it's the most critical part of the game. Of the series. And they don't peer review it at all? Worse, they refused to allow the others writers to peer review it? (Because I'm sure they asked, because they had common sense).

It's just so...unprofessional and sad.

[SaltyWaffles-PD]

Kolotosa wrote...

"holo-goodbyes for people I wrote (Mordin, Kasumi, Jack, etc)."

I doubt it's real, but makes me especially skeptical. Unless I'm misremembering or otherwise missed something, no such thing exists for Mordin, does it?

Mordin survives if you convince him to sabotage the genophage (Wrex and Eve must be dead). I'd assume that, since almost everyone either cured the genophage or killed Mordin to sabotage it, it's a rare scene.

[Kanon777]

im surpised at how this tread wasnt locked yet, even if t was fake i the mods should have done SOMETHING by now

Modifié par tobito113, 21 mars 2012 - 08:09 .

[Malanek]

Asari23 wrote...

Well, i don't really see why he should be fired if this was Real.

He didnt say anything hateful about any members of the team, didnt give away any information on future projects, it was just a Harmless insight into how the game is Written.

It sounded worse than hateful to me. He basically accused Hudson and Walters of
a)ruining the game
b)working against accepted practice because of ego by not taking peer reviews of their work. 

But as I said before, this probably isn't true.

[jkflipflopDAO]

That means the two LEADERS of the entire team placed all of their people's professional future in jeopardy just so they could have their way? Wow they need to be fired. That's abhorrent.

Allow the real writers to salvage this hot garbage. You guys all get together and give Shep the endings he damned well deserves.

Modifié par jkflipflopDAO, 21 mars 2012 - 08:09 .

[BluKardinal]

tobito113 wrote...

Even if its not real at least we are protecting anyone that could be falsely acused of this

This is a good point.  I personally doubt that this is real (Mass Effect fans are probably the biggest and juiciest piece of troll-bait in recent history), but Bioware has to be on edge right now.  Any sign of internal dissention or leaks is likely to be dealt with harshly.  Even the appearence of improrpriety could ruin the trust and morale of the team, a team that we are all counting on right now to deliver an ending worthy of the Mass Effect name.

[Fulgrim88]

SaltyWaffles-PD wrote...

I just can't fathom how that came to be. I mean, it's the most critical part of the game. Of the series. And they don't peer review it at all? Worse, they refused to allow the others writers to peer review it? (Because I'm sure they asked, because they had common sense).

It's just so...unprofessional and sad.

Hell if I know.

Sounds like a bad case of hubris, to me.

But yeah, I too think that this post isn't legit. What he says is, but it's not exactly news at this point.
Anyone with basic knowledge about the Bioware staff could have written it

Modifié par Fulgrim88, 21 mars 2012 - 08:11 .

[FemmeShep]

Navasha wrote...

Gonna go for fake, on those. I have a hard time believing an actual writer would use such poor grammar.

All I'll say is, this writer posts on a forum. It's been confirmed. 

The only thing that hasn't been confirmed is that HE made these posts on the forum. Various people are saying he did. But without a screenshot of his account making that post (with it passing tests that it wasn't photoshopped), there is no way to 100% confirm.

[SolidisusSnake1]

Leafs43 wrote...

Twitter a week ago said something like the lead writer was responsible for the ending.

So there might be truth to this.

This. I honestly believe this post based on what Patrick Weekes has said on Twitter and what not.

He has stated on Twitter many times that he had nothing to do with the ending and had no input on it and that we should go talk to Mac Walters. This post just seems to expand on that, whether or not it is real idk but it sounds reasonable.

[Mox Ruuga]

Kolotosa wrote...

"holo-goodbyes for people I wrote (Mordin, Kasumi, Jack, etc)."

I doubt it's real, but makes me especially skeptical. Unless I'm misremembering or otherwise missed something, no such thing exists for Mordin, does it?

Nope, it exists. I Mordin's holo-goodbye in my game (and Kasumi and the platonic version of Jack).

[SoraStrife]

Kolotosa wrote...

"holo-goodbyes for people I wrote (Mordin, Kasumi, Jack, etc)."

I doubt it's real, but makes me especially skeptical. Unless I'm misremembering or otherwise missed something, no such thing exists for Mordin, does it?

If you take all renegade responses and destroy Maelons data, Wrex dies and Mordin lives, as well as getting the salarian fleet. So yes, such a thing does exist, just it takes such douchebag actions to achieve it, very few have, or will ever see it.

[jumpingkaede]

ahandsomeshark wrote...

Walter is the head writer. I don't think Hudson is a writer at all but the project lead/producer.

To clarify my ire at least:

@ Hudson:  Numerous promises and claims for the endings and game as late as 2012, when the game would have been finalized.  His promises and claims are either blatant lies or blatant misrepresentations.  

If the effect of the Genophage resolution counts as separate endings, then Skyrim has thousands of endings.  I.e., you have an ending where you beat Aldiun... and also became head of the thieves guild.  You have an ending where you beat Alduin... and don't become head of the thieves guild.  And so on.

As Director certainly he approved the ending; whether he had a direct role in it as insinuated by this "writer's post" and the Final Hours app is uncertain.

Also he wrote a letter directed towards fans last week that was mildly insulting.  

@ Walters:  Lead writer.  At the least, his Final Hours notes with "lots of speculation" are ridiculously unprofessional to say the least.  If this "writer's post" is true, he was responsible for the writing in the ending which is awful and nonsensical.

[Shaun72]

Patrick Weekes actually did say on his Twitter last week that Mac Walters wrote the ending exclusively and that no other writer was involved. So that part is confirmed true. And no, I am not going to go dig through a week of posts to find it......Trust me, it's there if you want to find it yourself.

[FemmeShep]

tobito113 wrote...

im surpised at how this tread wasnt locked yet, even if t was fake i the mods should have done SOMETHING by now

Why should they?

If this is the writer, doesn't he have a right to speak about it? And if this isn't real, it's clearly labeled speculation...(title of the thread + the OP). 

I fail to see how this = a locked thread. No one is being uncivil or negative here. 

Modifié par FemmeShep, 21 mars 2012 - 08:11 .

[Kanon777]

Who was the writter who quit Bioware riught before the realease date? He couldve left because of this debacle. Was it Drew?