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[connordavisj]

Clarifying, once again, could mean ANYTHING. Vague wording as usual.

[Starshadow2010]

The Angry One wrote...

We do not want clarification.
We want endings that are not THIS. I don't need "clarification" on endings that MAKE NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.

So no. I will buy no DLC until they FIX the endings.

My thoughts, exactly.

[Wolven_Soul]

I honestly do not know.  I think I will likely wait until I hear the response from those who buy it before I put down any money myself. 

[rhyddhau]

BioWare insulted me with the endings to this trilogy. Why would I want to have those insults explained to me in greater detail? I understand the endings, and they are terrible.

Unless the narrative is completely rewritten from the point that Shepard gets hit by Harbinger's attack, then no, I will not be buying this DLC. I will also not be buying any more BioWare products, as they clearly can't accept overwhelming customer feedback and admit they made huge mistakes. My confidence in the company increasingly erodes with each statement they release.

[Wolven_Soul]

The Angry One wrote...

We do not want clarification.
We want endings that are not THIS. I don't need "clarification" on endings that MAKE NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.

So no. I will buy no DLC until they FIX the endings.

[Xellith]

Im not purchasing any DLC unless it fixes the ending from being nonsensical to logical and gives a great deal more closure. Not to mention that it HAS to have those 16+ endings we were PROMISED.

[OrumLeader]

byne wrote...

Clarifying space magic and getting rid of space magic are two totally different things.

I like this.  I'm going to start saying that they only agreed to "clarify space magic".

[SharTel]

If the ending satisfies me, of course. I just hope they don't clarify it, I want they to change it. No destuction of the relays or space magic, please!

[nomoredruggs]

Ending DLC first, then everything else. Just a statement won't cut it!

[The Night Mammoth]

iamzer0xx wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

We do not want clarification.
We want endings that are not THIS. I don't need "clarification" on endings that MAKE NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.

So no. I will buy no DLC until they FIX the endings.

You CANNOT just go back and delete an ending to a finished product. Since when are you allowed to go to any artist, whether it be a film maker, or video game developer, or musician, or painter, name your pick, and ask them to change their work because you didnt like it?

Yes, because a game isn't even anything like a film, let alone a painting. 
It's ineractive. The story isn't told to you by a faceless narrator where you have no input, like a book. Especially with RPGs, and especially with games based on the premise of choice and eventual consequence like Mass Effect, you are taking part in the telling of the story just as much as the developer is by presenting you with the choice. 

Gaming is also the only truly fluid media, thanks to DLC and patches. There's nothing to prohibit this. 

Don't be absurd, I can ALMOST guarantee you, that clarification is all you're going to get.

Almost being the operative word, but that's just your perspective. 

There WILL be more content to adress this. It WILL take into account the fan's feedback. Why? Money. Whether it's payed DLC or not, Bioware and more importantly, EA, stake to lose a whole lot more than a few game proper sales (which are being affected anyway). 

They're gambling with the core player base. The long term fans with brand loyalty. It's pretty clear that these people are hacked off. Losing these people not only loses them future DLC sales as these people are the ones they're relying on to buy, loses them sales on merchandise, and sales of new games as the pre-order market takes a gigantic boost, but also causes an unprecidented backlash as the brand's image is tarnished as a result of appearing like they're doing the fans a disservice. 

Most importantly, Bioware in particular thanks to being a creator of story and character driven RPG's, relies on these long term fans to spread the word. With the exception of Dragon Age 2, which saw a ridiculous drop in sales after day one and a general decline in overall sales compared to its predecessor, this has worked exceedingly well. 

Now however, this is being turned against them. If every one of the 50,000 people who are obviously against the ending convince even 2 others not to buy the game (like me, except it's about 15), that's already 100,000 lost sales. If these 2 people convince even 1 person each, that's another 100,000 lost sales. You see where I'm going with this? Stupidly simplified, but valid non the less. EA know it, that's why we'll see the situation remedied.

Assuming anything else is nonsensical, grow up. You really don't understand the implications of what you're asking.
 

And then we devolve to vitriol. Nice one. 

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 21 mars 2012 - 08:02 .

[xdognatex]

 Once i know what is going on in it, if it makes the ending better or make sense then yes.

Modifié par xdognatex, 21 mars 2012 - 08:43 .

[ShadowSoldier89]

no buy until endings are improved, not clarified

[Dhraconus]

Why would I change my current "won't buy DLC" stance based on a vague promise from Bioware?

Their very specific promises from pre-launch didn't exactly materialize now did they?

They want me to trust them they need to prove to me they deserve my trust again.

[BeguilingMingXi]

Unless they release Endings that make sense and are a fitting ending to the Mass effect/Shepard storyline i'll not buy the DLC or any EA/Bioware product from now till the end of time.Which will be very long.

Love BeguilingMingXi

P.S. Hold the Line.

[Bizantura]

Couln't care less for clarification. Need decent ending then buy other dlc.

[Lisa_H]

If a decent endings come out I will buy. Except for the endings I love the game

[Daedalus1773]

MattFini wrote...

When they fix the ending, I will see.

Until then? No DLC will be bought by me.

QFT

[spirosz]

People shouldn't buy this because what's stopping them from doing this in future titles and not charging us for "additional ending" again for future titles. If they thought it was a good idea going in, they certainly have a different mindset of what their fanbase is like. I even like the ending, I'm vibing more towards the indoctrination theory because I find it interesting, but I can see why other people wouldn't want that. Plus, the fact that we were promised multiple endings with differences depending on our choices by multiple devs, yet we get a copy and paste "A,B,C" choice with minor differences at best... doesn't really give me much hope that they will even deliver with these upcoming DLC's. I know my Shepard wouldn't of picked any of those 3 options and I for sure know he wouldn't of gone through that journey just to end up doing what he did - The fact that my Shepard was able to rally the Geth and Quarians or the Turians and Krogans together, show's how far organics have come and how much they're willing to sacrifice and that we CAN work with synthetics regardless of what this "God Child" believes is the "right" thing to do. Sure, maybe we would of all died, but he would go down fighting in what he believed in.

Bah.

Modifié par spiros9110, 21 mars 2012 - 08:06 .

[trickfred]

Computron2000 wrote...

iamzer0xx wrote...
You CANNOT just go back and delete an ending to a finished product. Since when are you allowed to go to any artist, whether it be a film maker, or video game developer, or musician, or painter, name your pick, and ask them to change their work because you didnt like it?

Don't be absurd, I can ALMOST guarantee you, that clarification is all you're going to get. Assuming anything else is nonsensical, grow up. You really don't understand the implications of what you're asking.
 

Um, "I am Legend"? I'm sure there are plenty more but thats the one on my mind since i only saw it recently

Dallas. JR getting shot was retconned between seasons.

Sherlock Holmes. Arthur Conan Doyle killed him off, then brought him back after overwhelming fan demand.

Blade Runner. The 'unicorn' ending.

Just off the top of my head.

Edit: Whoops, it was Bobby Ewing's death that was retconned, not JR being shot. Apologies, it's been ~20 years since I watched Dallas.

Modifié par trickfred, 21 mars 2012 - 08:18 .

[Xellith]

Dhraconus wrote...

Why would I change my current "won't buy DLC" stance based on a vague promise from Bioware?

Their very specific promises from pre-launch didn't exactly materialize now did they?

They want me to trust them they need to prove to me they deserve my trust again.

quoted for great justice

[CptData]

SweetJeeba wrote...

 Now that bioware says they are attempting to clarify the ending., what are you going to do about future DLC.

Personally I was going to avoid it all until I knew if it addressed the ending.  I'd hate for Bioware to be pulling a PR stunt just to get me to buy DLC that may exaggerate the content concerning the ending

"Haters"? I consider myself as someone who deeply cares for one of the best gaming series - and I just want an appropriate finale. The trilogy feels incomplete right now, but BW has the power to change that.

Yes, I'm going to buy DLCs - Mission DLCs for Singleplayer, a Romance-DLC expending existing romances, maybe even more. But of course, those DLCs also should help to gain new & better endings - or whatever BW may have in the sleeves.

I won't buy those DLCs as long as the current endings are untouched.

Modifié par CptData, 21 mars 2012 - 08:09 .

[durasteel]

iamzer0xx wrote...

You CANNOT just go back and delete an ending to a finished product. Since when are you allowed to go to any artist, whether it be a film maker, or video game developer, or musician, or painter, name your pick, and ask them to change their work because you didnt like it?

Don't be absurd, I can ALMOST guarantee you, that clarification is all you're going to get. Assuming anything else is nonsensical, grow up. You really don't understand the implications of what you're asking.
 

Sure you can. You can easily find a director's cut with a changed ending for many movies, and even more with different endings in the "deleted scenes" area. Books routinely change things for the second and subsequent editions, and BioWare is provingthat by revising Mass Effect: Deception.  Go ask Cee Lo Green what the original lyrics of his hit song "Forget You" were, or compare the length of songs on the radio with the "same" song on the album.

If anyone is being absurd, it is you. Art is neither eternal nor unchanging, and it never has been.

[Adler24]

The Angry One wrote...

We do not want clarification.
We want endings that are not THIS. I don't need "clarification" on endings that MAKE NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.

So no. I will buy no DLC until they FIX the endings.

Sign

[Rhayth]

I personally will be watching it on youtube before I dish out anymore money. If It doesn't restore my desire to replay the game a million times over then it's just a waste IMO. The replay ability is what was my biggest love of ME Universe, making decisions, diff chars, diff love interest. Without that replay ability any DLC is no diff than DA2 dlc which I stopped buying also.

[Iwillbeback]

Will you now buy DLC

No I'm not buying any DLC for the end