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[ADelusiveMan]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

Love how you skipped the entire second part of the post. But you know what? You're right. I was among the few who expected a bigger payoff than what we got. I got put in my place for higher expectations. I'm over that now. Like I said, keep the ending. Just clarify what exactly happened after. Galactic civilization wasn't in an exactly good state when the game ended.

And now that you're willing to talk rationally, I'm more than willing to talk rationally with you.

I want more on what happened after as well. I do. I'd LOVE a two hour cinematic movie that shows the galaxy rebuilding and the crew moving on with their lives, I'd love more. I'm all about having more. I want ALL the content. Gimmie gimmie gimmie. What I DON'T want is them to change the ending and try and handwave it all away as a dream, or whatever. BUILD on what they gave us and give us more.

I want Additional, not Changed.

I agree with everything you said. I liked the analogy someone used of the ending with the Lord of the Rings. They said basically, Mass Effect 3 ended at the point where Frodo and Sam are on the slopes of Mount Doom talking about home after destroying the ring. If LoTR had ended there, it would be similar - we have no idea what happens to the characters that we have grown to love. That's basically where I stand.

If Bioware decides to change the ending, I really hope it's because the people who work on it want to, not because they have a rabid fanbase that is demanding it be changed because the ending wasn't exactly what they had imagined it would be. But I don't think asking for a little clarification at the end is too much to ask for. Perhaps a post game DLC comic similar to Genesis?

Modifié par ADelusiveMan, 22 mars 2012 - 01:15 .

[Father_Jerusalem]

ADelusiveMan wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

Love how you skipped the entire second part of the post. But you know what? You're right. I was among the few who expected a bigger payoff than what we got. I got put in my place for higher expectations. I'm over that now. Like I said, keep the ending. Just clarify what exactly happened after. Galactic civilization wasn't in an exactly good state when the game ended.

And now that you're willing to talk rationally, I'm more than willing to talk rationally with you.

I want more on what happened after as well. I do. I'd LOVE a two hour cinematic movie that shows the galaxy rebuilding and the crew moving on with their lives, I'd love more. I'm all about having more. I want ALL the content. Gimmie gimmie gimmie. What I DON'T want is them to change the ending and try and handwave it all away as a dream, or whatever. BUILD on what they gave us and give us more.

I want Additional, not Changed.

I agree with everything you said. I liked the analogy someone used of the ending with the Lord of the Rings. They said basically, Mass Effect 3 ended at the point where Frodo and Sam are on the slopes of Mount Doom talking about home after destroying the ring. If LoTR had ended there, it would be similar - we have no idea what happens to the characters that we have grown to love. That's basically where I stand.

If Bioware decides to change the ending, I really hope it's because the people who work on it want to, not because they have a rabid fanbase that is demanding it be changed because the ending wasn't exactly what they had imagined it would be. But I don't think asking for a little clarification at the end is too much to ask for. Perhaps a post game DLC comic similar to Genesis?

If it would HAVE to be a comic, or flash cards like in DA:O, then I could live with it. I, for one, would prefer actual cut scenes, but I understand those are harder to produce and take more time. So... over nothing at all? Yeah, and I'd prefer a comic over the flash cards, frankly.

And the LOTR analogy... I like it. It works. I'd say it's more akin to when the ring falls and Gollum jumps off the cliff after it, then fade to black, but... it works. I mean, clearly, you WON, you stopped the Reapers, and the Ring is going to be destroyed, it's everything else that comes after it that's up in the air.

[SirRiot]

No, not at all. ME3 is a product, just like a tooth brush. If I want a refund, its my right....however I don't sooooo the above is my opinion ;P

[Dark Cider]

Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in. Not usually vocal on these forums, but I've been watching them the last week. I was heavily disappointed with the ending, and I don't see any reason to play my other Shepards at this time. Only thing stopping me from returning the game is ultimately to see how Bioware handles the entire situation. Shipping a rushed product just proves too me that they aren't interested in their customer base, but only the cash in their wallet. How they ultimately resolve this will determine whether they see any more of mine, and many others I'd imagine.

[ADelusiveMan]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

ADelusiveMan wrote...

Love how you skipped the entire second part of the post. But you know what? You're right. I was among the few who expected a bigger payoff than what we got. I got put in my place for higher expectations. I'm over that now. Like I said, keep the ending. Just clarify what exactly happened after. Galactic civilization wasn't in an exactly good state when the game ended.

And now that you're willing to talk rationally, I'm more than willing to talk rationally with you.

I want more on what happened after as well. I do. I'd LOVE a two hour cinematic movie that shows the galaxy rebuilding and the crew moving on with their lives, I'd love more. I'm all about having more. I want ALL the content. Gimmie gimmie gimmie. What I DON'T want is them to change the ending and try and handwave it all away as a dream, or whatever. BUILD on what they gave us and give us more.

I want Additional, not Changed.

I agree with everything you said. I liked the analogy someone used of the ending with the Lord of the Rings. They said basically, Mass Effect 3 ended at the point where Frodo and Sam are on the slopes of Mount Doom talking about home after destroying the ring. If LoTR had ended there, it would be similar - we have no idea what happens to the characters that we have grown to love. That's basically where I stand.

If Bioware decides to change the ending, I really hope it's because the people who work on it want to, not because they have a rabid fanbase that is demanding it be changed because the ending wasn't exactly what they had imagined it would be. But I don't think asking for a little clarification at the end is too much to ask for. Perhaps a post game DLC comic similar to Genesis?

If it would HAVE to be a comic, or flash cards like in DA:O, then I could live with it. I, for one, would prefer actual cut scenes, but I understand those are harder to produce and take more time. So... over nothing at all? Yeah, and I'd prefer a comic over the flash cards, frankly.

And the LOTR analogy... I like it. It works. I'd say it's more akin to when the ring falls and Gollum jumps off the cliff after it, then fade to black, but... it works. I mean, clearly, you WON, you stopped the Reapers, and the Ring is going to be destroyed, it's everything else that comes after it that's up in the air.

I'd take the flashcards over the comic anyday, but I'll take what I can get.

[DJStarstryker]

I am actually surprised anywhere is giving full refunds for ME3. Typically video games that are opened are NOT eligible for return. Typically if you buy a game and it turns out to not be very good, you have to sell it or trade it in.

[Vincent Rosevalliant]

Dark Cider wrote...

Just wanted to throw my 2 cents in. Not usually vocal on these forums, but I've been watching them the last week. I was heavily disappointed with the ending, and I don't see any reason to play my other Shepards at this time. Only thing stopping me from returning the game is ultimately to see how Bioware handles the entire situation. Shipping a rushed product just proves too me that they aren't interested in their customer base, but only the cash in their wallet. How they ultimately resolve this will determine whether they see any more of mine, and many others I'd imagine.

Returning it doesn't mean you can't buy it again later and support the company for actions taken. If you feel you bought something that will not give you any joy in the future, perhaps it will become a reminder of a bad purchase.
Not trying to push you, just my 2 cents.

[Vincent Rosevalliant]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...
And the LOTR analogy... I like it.

I have a Lord of the Rings Analogy as well and it's a comic.

http://i0.kym-cdn.co...270/606/13a.jpg

*Disclaimer*
I did not make it.

[garf]

For the record I can't. pre-purchased CE ages ago. Nor can I get back the twenty bucks I dropped on origin for a handful of spectre packs.

If I could, I'm not sure I would. I have my fingers crossed that Bioware will reward our efforts at redress. But since it's a moot point.

But anyone who CAN return. who honestly wants to. More power to them. while I'm sure there's some cheap jerks who are JUST doing it because they can. But I'm also sure there's far more who feel it is a legimate way to redress their sincere issues with the game. And if they can. More power to them. Also ... I don't think it's any business of mine.. or anyonelse to pass judgement on them.

[rpgfan321]

I think if they want a refund, they should get the refund. After all, it is their money. But I think bring in the government by filing a complaint is... a bit over the top in my opinion.

[furryrage59]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

furryrage59 wrote...

If you're unhappy with a product, you take it back and get your money back.

This isn't a new concept <_<

If you open and use a product, you take it back, and get laughed at when you try to get your money back.

This isn't a new concept.

Lolwut, that never, ever happens here.

If you buy something and wear/use/drive it and aren't happy with it, you can return it and get credit/your money back.

It's always been that way, don't know what country you're from but that's just daft.

I've personally returned an item of almost every classification throughout my life at some point and never had any problems ever. They'll ask the problem and then give you a refund.

You must live in a dictatorship or something?

[Tazzmission]

yes expecially when they have to pay another 45 bucks to rebuy the game for the dlc in a month


like i said people need to just wait and not over react

[AkiKishi]

DJStarstryker wrote...

I am actually surprised anywhere is giving full refunds for ME3. Typically video games that are opened are NOT eligible for return. Typically if you buy a game and it turns out to not be very good, you have to sell it or trade it in.

This is more a case of what they want you to think, rather than what are your statuatory rights are.

[Lanxerer]

Personally, even if the end was horrible and i am very disappointed with it, i will not ask for a refund. But i wan't call peolpe who do this ridicuolos, it's their right to do so.

[Giskler]

Nope, I returned a CE because I'm not willing to pay for an unfinished product.

Lets not even get started on all the false advertisement.

[DaJe]

There was false advertising towards features and most of all the ending and how player choice ties into it. And we are not talking about little details of misconception but lies that turn the truth to the 180° opposite.

If you don't get the product that you were promised you have all right to get your money back. Infact, the only way to send a message towards EA/BW that false advertising will not be tolerated is getting refunds.

If you think this hurts bioware think twice. It is a clear message that will promote positive change for the future in games. Marketing deception shall not be tolerated.

[F00lishG]

After what I read here in the past week, getting a refund is the only thing that doesn't sound ridiculous.

[justlogme]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

It's sad. They're just going to re-buy when the new ending gets released.

  That would actually be good for EA/bioware right?
  But in any case on every front Bioware is stating they are not changing the ending.  they stated they are working on DLC that may clarify the ending somewhat as Biowares Co-founder recently stated.

Modifié par justlogme, 22 mars 2012 - 11:20 .

[AlexMBrennan]

BobSmith101 wrote...

DJStarstryker wrote...

I am actually surprised anywhere is giving full refunds for ME3. Typically video games that are opened are NOT eligible for return. Typically if you buy a game and it turns out to not be very good, you have to sell it or trade it in.

This is more a case of what they want you to think, rather than what are your statuatory rights are.

Games and such are not covered by the relevant legislation; more accurately, perhaps, they don't want you think about why games are not covered by things like the Distance Selling Regulation and just accept it.

[DOGGEH84]

People playing to the ending and getting money back is a ridiculous thing.

Thats like filling your car with fuel, using it all and demanding a refund because you didn't like the mileage you got on it.

[justlogme]

Tazzmission wrote...

yes expecially when they have to pay another 45 bucks to rebuy the game for the dlc in a month


like i said people need to just wait and not over react

   Please post any link in which anyone from Bioware has stated they are doing ENDING DLC.
  Everything I've seen says they are doing pre-ending DLC and that while they are "listening' and collecting data they have no intention of doing ending DLC at this time.
   guess we will see in a month right?
   Oh in any case they will be able to get the game used for $20 bucks in a month

Modifié par justlogme, 22 mars 2012 - 11:18 .

[ZaroktheImmortal]

While I'm not going to get a refund on my copy other people are free to do so.

[justlogme]

DOGGEH84 wrote...

People playing to the ending and getting money back is a ridiculous thing.

Thats like filling your car with fuel, using it all and demanding a refund because you didn't like the mileage you got on it.

   Someone else posted this first I think its fitting.

  You have a nice bowel of soup. You enjoy it right up till almost the last spoonfull when you see a dead cockroach at the bottum. Wouldn't you ask for a refund?

[foo man chew]

DOGGEH84 wrote...

People playing to the ending and getting money back is a ridiculous thing.

Thats like filling your car with fuel, using it all and demanding a refund because you didn't like the mileage you got on it.

Not at all its more like filling you car with fuel using it all and then breaking down.The ending is unfinished and  falsley advertised.How else are people going to know unless they play the game up to that point.

[SalsaDMA]

chris fenton wrote...

I hate this ending just like everybody else.

But yes, that's ridiculous. Could you act more spoiled?

I just ate this chocolate. Let me puke it out, but I want a full refund for the chocolate. <_<

Just today I actually read the latest article about unhappy customers at a resturant.
A group was eating at a resturant and enjoying their food. Then when they reach the bottom of their dishes, they find duds from cigerattes in the food. The ensuing discussion between the costumers and staff was then solely on wether or not those duds were present when the food was delivered (as opposed to having been inserted by the costumers). When the discussion was ended, the resturant acknowledged that the customers weren't the ones that had put those duds there, and thus voided the bill for the food.

This is not an uncommon practice for places selling consumable goods/services, so why are some of you pretending like it's something that has never happened before and is unheard of?