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[Gill Kaiser]

Taleroth wrote...

I think you made a crucial mistake. The Quarian Migrant fleet will not starve to death. They can grow their own food. No, they will settle in Sol forever. Probably in orbit around Mars. Their ships are incapable of surviving the journey home without constant repair and replacement that the galactic infrastructure is incapable of providing them.

That's assuming that the Liveships were with them as they entered a warzone. OK, there's a chance they could make enough food to keep themselves alive, and maybe even the Turians as well, but it still renders the reclaiming of Rannoch pretty pointless.

And the best Quarian, Tali, is nowhere near a liveship.

[111987]

Well if you chose Control, you could just have the Reapers ferry everyone back to their respective planets. And then make them rebuild the Mass Relays.

It's kind of like the Forerunner's in Halo; they wiped out all sentient life in the galaxy to stop the flood, which is absolutely horrific...but still the lesser of two evils when considering the alternative (i.e. Flood take over everything for all time). No matter how much death or destruction is caused by the Crucible, in the long run the galaxy is better off without the Reapers committing genocide every 50,000 years.

[pablosplinter]

Buy dlc

[Scalpels]

Taleroth wrote...

I think you made a crucial mistake. The Quarian Migrant fleet will not starve to death. They can grow their own food. No, they will settle in Sol forever. Probably in orbit around Mars. Their ships are incapable of surviving the journey home without constant repair and replacement that the galactic infrastructure is incapable of providing them.

Mass Effect 2 made it clear that the Quarian Migrant fleet won't last more than 6-8 decades with constant repairs. They will last considerably shorter without repairs.

Also, I don't think the turians will go without a fight. I could see them attacking the live ships to feed themselves. Meanwhile, it is just a matter of time before the rest of the races wage open war with their armadas over resources.

[Baronesa]

*hugs tight*

That feeling has been going around for a while now.

Welcome to Despair

[Scalpels]

Darthlawsuit wrote...

Don't forget Mass Relays go supernova and destroy everything in the system. So every populated sector with a mass relay is now gone.

Assuming this is true. 65 Billion souls evaporated in seconds. That is the total population of all solar systems that share space with a Mass Relay.

If space magic stops it from going nova, the starvation scenario plays out.

[Darthlawsuit]

Scalpels wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

I think you made a crucial mistake. The Quarian Migrant fleet will not starve to death. They can grow their own food. No, they will settle in Sol forever. Probably in orbit around Mars. Their ships are incapable of surviving the journey home without constant repair and replacement that the galactic infrastructure is incapable of providing them.

Mass Effect 2 made it clear that the Quarian Migrant fleet won't last more than 6-8 decades with constant repairs. They will last considerably shorter without repairs.

Also, I don't think the turians will go without a fight. I could see them attacking the live ships to feed themselves. Meanwhile, it is just a matter of time before the rest of the races wage open war with their armadas over resources.

Don't forget all farms and food supplies on Earth were destroyed by the reapers. So no food on Earth right now and who knows what they did to farmland.

[Ville L]

Matriarch Atheyta already died in cerberus coup, you can hear the owner talking about one of their employees dying and you can't find Matriarch Atheyta anymore.

[thesnake777]

OP Cerberus Welcomes You With Open Arms.
To Insure Humanities Survival We Will Stand As One
And Hold The Line

[dfstone]

I guess if you wanted to play an evil char then it turned out fine. But it sucks for anyone who wanted to be a hero 'cause your not. Everybody dies. Nothing you did mattered. Kinda sucks. What they could have done is just not put in the end-movie clip and just put up a JPG of a giant middle finger. At least I would have laughed.

[UndeadTRex]

I was especially upset when I realized how many characters I knew on the Citadel died. Just adds to the body count.

[Ashilana]

Taleroth wrote...

I think you made a crucial mistake. The Quarian Migrant fleet will not starve to death. They can grow their own food. No, they will settle in Sol forever. Probably in orbit around Mars. Their ships are incapable of surviving the journey home without constant repair and replacement that the galactic infrastructure is incapable of providing them.

They might survive... but I am pretty sure the Turians will conquer them and keep them as farm workers.

[111987]

Darthlawsuit wrote...

Scalpels wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

I think you made a crucial mistake. The Quarian Migrant fleet will not starve to death. They can grow their own food. No, they will settle in Sol forever. Probably in orbit around Mars. Their ships are incapable of surviving the journey home without constant repair and replacement that the galactic infrastructure is incapable of providing them.

Mass Effect 2 made it clear that the Quarian Migrant fleet won't last more than 6-8 decades with constant repairs. They will last considerably shorter without repairs.

Also, I don't think the turians will go without a fight. I could see them attacking the live ships to feed themselves. Meanwhile, it is just a matter of time before the rest of the races wage open war with their armadas over resources.

Don't forget all farms and food supplies on Earth were destroyed by the reapers. So no food on Earth right now and who knows what they did to farmland.

I thought the agricultural sectors were left relatively untouched. The Codex and Anderson suggested the Reapers only really cared about the population and industrial centers.

[Darthlawsuit]

dfstone wrote...

I guess if you wanted to play an evil char then it turned out fine. But it sucks for anyone who wanted to be a hero 'cause your not. Everybody dies. Nothing you did mattered. Kinda sucks. What they could have done is just not put in the end-movie clip and just put up a JPG of a giant middle finger. At least I would have laughed.

I wanted to become the head conciousness for a Reaper and join Harbinger in his "Adventures"

[Ashilana]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

a) Control - which proves Shepard a horrific hypocrite and maintains the status quo.
Synthesis - in which Shepard forces a fundamental change upon all life in the galaxy, against their will, and homogenises everyone, depriving them of the diversity which the series had lauded up until this moment.
c) Destroy - in which Shepard commits genocide of an innocent race, and kills a friend.

I simply don't understand what Bioware were thinking. I just don't! After the brilliance of 99% of ME3, the way they managed to destroy it all in the final 10 minutes is almost physically painful to think about.

The problem is that someone at Bioware (someone very important) thinks that control would be nifty, synthesis is not creepy but pretty, and that destroy is not horrific.

The response today suggests they may make cosmetic changes, but the morally awful nature of the ending will remain.

[Baronesa]

Ville L wrote...

Matriarch Atheyta already died in cerberus coup, you can hear the owner talking about one of their employees dying and you can't find Matriarch Atheyta anymore.

I don't think so.

After the coup there is an Asari commando  close to Aria, and once you finish the fetch mission, she calls to her contact to inform Matriarch Aethyta, so we can asume she left the Citadel to concentrate on the war effort. But that is the only real mention of her, after the attack.

[Spectre-00N7]

For ART!

[iamthedave3]

It's important to think of the Yawg, our future galactic overmasters.

[Scalpels]

UndeadTRex wrote...

I was especially upset when I realized how many characters I knew on the Citadel died. Just adds to the body count.

The population of The Citadel was 13.2 million.

What bugs me is that I had spent most of the game building up the Citdel defense and in one sentence; I found out it was for nothing.

Then there are the questions. In ME1 it was made clear that Sovereign could control all the Mass Relays from the Citadel. Why didn't the reapers just shut them off like they did to the Protheans? It would have stopped the armada from arriving and they could pick off the races on system at a time.

Then there is the God Child. If he controls the reapers; why doesn't he just shut off the relays?

Alternately, why did the Prothean's sabotage last? The kid had 50,000 years to fix the sabotage.

[Darthlawsuit]

111987 wrote...

Darthlawsuit wrote...

Scalpels wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

I think you made a crucial mistake. The Quarian Migrant fleet will not starve to death. They can grow their own food. No, they will settle in Sol forever. Probably in orbit around Mars. Their ships are incapable of surviving the journey home without constant repair and replacement that the galactic infrastructure is incapable of providing them.

Mass Effect 2 made it clear that the Quarian Migrant fleet won't last more than 6-8 decades with constant repairs. They will last considerably shorter without repairs.

Also, I don't think the turians will go without a fight. I could see them attacking the live ships to feed themselves. Meanwhile, it is just a matter of time before the rest of the races wage open war with their armadas over resources.

Don't forget all farms and food supplies on Earth were destroyed by the reapers. So no food on Earth right now and who knows what they did to farmland.

I thought the agricultural sectors were left relatively untouched. The Codex and Anderson suggested the Reapers only really cared about the population and industrial centers.

I have never heard of the farmland around me refered to as an "Agricultural sector" have you? Its possible there is a human populated solar system nearby without a mass relay that has been untouched. Guess that might be a good hope.

The Reapers attacked populated areas because they wanted to box in the population. They attacked industrial areas for obvious reasons. They would have focused on them first of all and then moved outwards from there. Judging from the number of reapers entering the Atmosphere they had plenty to do the first two without any issues. From there they would attack the farmland and follow a scorched Earth policy to cut off the supplies of the rebels.

Regardless for 1 year the Earth is going to be severely low on food.

[savionen]

Pretty much.....

[Torga_DW]

space magic art 

[Avatar231278]

Darthlawsuit wrote...

Don't forget Mass Relays go supernova and destroy everything in the system. So every populated sector with a mass relay is now gone.

Mass Relays go supernova if they are destroyed by an outside force, while in function. As stated, the devices will stop functioning, it is fair to assume, that they just blow up, without the catastrophic consequences. The Citadel controls the Mass Relays, so it can make them stop working without blowing up the universe.

There are many why this and why that in the ending, but I count the destruction of the network not as some sort doomsday-weapon.

Modifié par Avatar231278, 21 mars 2012 - 08:48 .

[eddieoctane]

Welcome to the club, Gill. Watch your step, you might fall in a plothole.

[Darsoul]

I seem to be the only one that caught this but...
Kelly Chambers - On the Citadel; almost certainly dead

Kelly is murdered by Cerberus when they invaded the Citadel. They hunt her down, its seems to be the only reason the Citadel was even attacked