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BioWare, you wanted commentary on how to fix this, start with the FALSE ADVERTISING!


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#551
Heliosas

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Those quotes are damning alright. And coming from a company who won't release details until they are sure of them, because they don't want to be caught in the trap of not delivering on promises...it is just breathtaking. They either dropped the ball massively...or the ending we got was not what they were planning at all.

Modifié par Heliosas, 22 mars 2012 - 06:02 .


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michael99887766

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This sums up all the problems so well.

Bioware made largely a great trilogy and got rewarded for that: people bought the collectors' editions, purchased DLC at peak release price, read the books, talked up the game to their friends etc.

But that's a double-edged sword. Break promises to your fans and this is what you get.

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ClydeDroid

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I can see how a few of these quotes could be spun to match with the current endings, but certainly not all of them. In any case, they certainly seemed to have a different idea for the ending than what they gave us.

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ConradsLaces wrote...

It sickens me to read this, and see just how many of the interviews were outright lies.

EDIT - It would be nice to see Frobes do an article on this kind of topic. Outright lies to the consumer... how it's bad for business.

Yeah, trying to get them to address this thread.

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theshuo wrote...

Almost as much as I want the ending to the game I bought, I want Bioware to respond to each of these claims they made.


They won't, because that would involve having to admit they were wrong.

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CmdrStJean wrote...

What I don't understand is if Bioware always had in mind an ambiguous ending, with "lots of speculation for everyone," as they claim, why make all these promises and proclamations in the first place? What were they thinking? Furthermore, I'd be interested to know when the OP's quoted statements were made versus when Mac Walters (et al) decided they wanted to give us the RGB-Star Child finale. Is there any possible way to square these apparently disparate intentions? Is it possible the original quotes are so old as to predate work on the present conclusion by a wide margin? I do wonder...

Unfortunately, many of these quotes were made after the game went gold, meaning the content was locked.  Therefore, nobody seems to have a reasonable explanation for why they misled us.

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chrrue_

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theshuo wrote...

Almost as much as I want the ending to the game I bought, I want Bioware to respond to each of these claims they made.


Good Luck :huh:

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I just wanted to bump this thread for great justice. I truly think there would have been less of a backlash if BioWare hadn't made all of these statements. Like many fans, I too have followed most of the ME3 interviews with great anticipation before the release of the game. It's one of the reasons I had trouble believing these endings to begin with.

If anyone from BioWare is reading this thread, please understand that this is one of the reasons we're disappointed. It's frustrating when the product you buy does not match the promises made about it.

#559
jess05

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Good post OP.

I think this certainly sums it up for many.

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Ouch!

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jspiess

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MassFrost wrote...

theshuo wrote...

Almost as much as I want the ending to the game I bought, I want Bioware to respond to each of these claims they made.


They won't, because that would involve having to admit they were wrong.

I would love South Park to cover this for them ex: the BP "We're Sorry" video

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thesmallearth

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Great post - thanks OP for taking time to compile the list together...

#563
nrcrane

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These are the reasons why I am not satisfied with the ending. What was promised was so much more then what was given.

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JohnnyG

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chrrue_ wrote...


theshuo wrote...

Almost as much as I want the ending to the game I bought, I want Bioware to respond to each of these claims they made.


Good Luck :huh:

Even if they never offically admit wrongdoing, if they address these issues in whatever they release (DLC, whatever) then many would be happy.  Some wouldn't, but you can't please everyone.  :)

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euology2000

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Fantastic Post! Thank's to the OP!

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InfiniteDemise

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jspiess wrote...

MassFrost wrote...

theshuo wrote...

Almost as much as I want the ending to the game I bought, I want Bioware to respond to each of these claims they made.


They won't, because that would involve having to admit they were wrong.

I would love South Park to cover this for them ex: the BP "We're Sorry" video


South Park would probably crap on the Retake movement becuase they wouldn't look any further than the surface. I seriously doubt they would dig into the complaints and verify if they were valid or not.

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SekondaHuet

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 Well said.  Egg on our face if it was their plan all along to do an indoctrination theory.

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Femlob

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OP has drawn first blood from the torso. Bumping for justice. Leaving this thread open in a tab in case more bumping for justice is required.

Of course, BioWare simply cannot afford to acknowledge that this post even exists, much less respond to any of the questions it raises. The same holds true for the bought media. Perhaps Erik Kain will pick up on it, though.

BioWare's going to get roasted come PAX, and they deserve every second of it.

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Welcome to capitalism, you created it, now suffer through it.

I mean, this happens with basically every single movie, game, book, etc,but oh no, bioware is the exception to get angry about.

Not that the ending isn't crappy in a sense, but this everyday stuff, why complain now?

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Femlob

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Crusina wrote...

Not that the ending isn't crappy in a sense, but this everyday stuff, why complain now?


Why not? You have to start somewhere.

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chrrue_

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JohnnyG wrote...

Even if they never offically admit wrongdoing, if they address these issues in whatever they release (DLC, whatever) then many would be happy.  Some wouldn't, but you can't please everyone.  :)


I would be pleased as well :)

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Bump

Thx 4 the thread mate - I sign that 150%!

I love Bioware and their games but I can not take what they did to my loved MassEffect-Triology with these endings. It needs definatly a patch that implements various endings with less open questions and more answers. The current endings seem to me like they had to do the last 10 minutes in a rush and thats why I can not accept them. I just want to get what was promised to me - like every other fan outside there. ME3 has been a great game (not the best in the triology but much better than other games I have seen the last time) but sorry I am feeling a bit mad about spending 70€ for an unfinished game in my eyes. :(

Sorry for my bad english... hope you guys know what I wanted to tell you all. ;)

#573
Thalorin1919

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To be fair, there IS sixteen different endings.

http://www.raritygui...LERS/Page1.html

They just weren't the endings you guys wanted.

Modifié par Thalorin1919, 22 mars 2012 - 07:29 .


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JohnnyG

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Thalorin1919 wrote...

To be fair, there IS sixteen different endings.

http://www.raritygui...LERS/Page1.html

They just weren't the endings you guys wanted.

That's nice.  Can you point out in my post where the number of endings was even mentioned? 

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Weeman0313

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Thalorin1919 wrote...

To be fair, there IS sixteen different endings.

http://www.raritygui...LERS/Page1.html

They just weren't the endings you guys wanted.


Hey! No you should probably watch this