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BioWare, you wanted commentary on how to fix this, start with the FALSE ADVERTISING!


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#576
Zwei133

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Weeman, you beat me to it!  Well played.

Modifié par Zwei133, 22 mars 2012 - 07:36 .


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Thalorin1919

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Weeman0313 wrote...

Thalorin1919 wrote...

To be fair, there IS sixteen different endings.

http://www.raritygui...LERS/Page1.html

They just weren't the endings you guys wanted.


Hey! No you should probably watch this


Still different...

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JohnnyG

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Thalorin1919 wrote...

Weeman0313 wrote...

Thalorin1919 wrote...

To be fair, there IS sixteen different endings.

http://www.raritygui...LERS/Page1.html

They just weren't the endings you guys wanted.


Hey! No you should probably watch this


Still different...

And I would still like you to point to the place in my original post where the amount of endings were even mentioned.

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Weeman0313

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Thalorin1919 wrote...

Weeman0313 wrote...

Thalorin1919 wrote...

To be fair, there IS sixteen different endings.

http://www.raritygui...LERS/Page1.html

They just weren't the endings you guys wanted.


Hey! No you should probably watch this


Still different...


True, but I heard you can unlock even MORE endings by changing the contrast on your tv!

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Thalorin1919 wrote...

To be fair, there IS sixteen different endings.

http://www.raritygui...LERS/Page1.html

They just weren't the endings you guys wanted.


Those 16 endings boil down to 3 endings. All of which are nearly identical give or take some minor changes (most of which good players will never see anyway as they will have actually imported their character and then grabbed all war  assets/done multiplayer). Excuse us if we fail to give them the time of day.

Modifié par Heliosas, 22 mars 2012 - 08:10 .


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Bojan1es

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lol 16 endings my ass

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Reptilian Rob

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Bojan1es wrote...

lol 16 endings my ass

The colors...

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Lisa_H wrote...

Great post. Yes, we bought the game based on the promises they had given us. Artistic integrity is improtant, but it doesn't mean you can go against everything you promised your customers.


Agreed.  Seeing the OP lay out all the promises like that for us to see it does move me from initial disappointment to wanting an explanation from the gentlemen concerned.  I do feel lied to now, what on earth happened to all those promises?.

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the sad thing is, if i knew how much they lie about the ME3 i wouldnt bought it.
Nothing which i did durning me1 and 2 or all me3 game has impact on the acaul ending...
As i wrote somewhere else - the conversation between shepard and catalyst at the end about repears is just dull and its a slap in my face. Somehow i have the feeling that bioware have hopes that their customers are brain dead...

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SekondaHuet wrote...

 Well said.  Egg on our face if it was their plan all along to do an indoctrination theory.


That still means we didn't have an ending at realease. Meaning we didn't reseive the full game with purchase, even if it was planned to be free DLC. Also means we have to wait a month after release to get it. Still bad tactic imho.

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The 16 different endings is like being invited to a party and being told there'll be 16 different drinks. When you get there you're given a choice between Carlsberg, Heiniken, Fosters, Bud, etc. Technically they were correct, but you can't help feeling you've been deceived.

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I only got 1 ending, don't know about you guys.

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Rickin10 wrote...

The 16 different endings is like being invited to a party and being told there'll be 16 different drinks. When you get there you're given a choice between Carlsberg, Heiniken, Fosters, Bud, etc. Technically they were correct, but you can't help feeling you've been deceived.

My only regret is that I have Boneitis

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Blarghonk wrote...

SekondaHuet wrote...

 Well said.  Egg on our face if it was their plan all along to do an indoctrination theory.


That still means we didn't have an ending at realease. Meaning we didn't reseive the full game with purchase, even if it was planned to be free DLC. Also means we have to wait a month after release to get it. Still bad tactic imho.

I agree.  While I will be happy to get a finished product finally, all this angst that has taken place in the meantime would not be appreciated.  If this were the case, it wouldn't stop me from buying their products in the future, but I wouldn't pre-order anything again and I would be a lot more cautious (as opposed to instantly buying something because it is a BioWare product).

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I'm starting to think they really dont care what we think, or that we care about the game. They have no worries about not explaining why they mislead us as they have our money!

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Lisa_H wrote...

Great post. Yes, we bought the game based on the promises they had given us. Artistic integrity is improtant, but it doesn't mean you can go against everything you promised your customers.


It is essentially artistic integrity vs ethitical integrity. But, given how willing Bioware has been to compromise its artistic integrity to make a larger profit it really shouldn't be surprising that they are willing to compromise their ethical integrity for the same reason.

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RxP4IN wrote...

You wanted feedback Dr. Ray, well here it is.

Leading up to the release of ME3, I read most--if not all--of these articles. So, yes, I was bitterly disappointed when I found out none of my choices mattered in the end. The only thing that made a negligible difference was the EMS score, which could be artificially inflated through several nonessential methods (such as fetch quests and multiplayer).

Bad writing, plot holes, and poor-execution aside, false advertisement quite aptly describes the ending.


^ Very this. I also caught an article where Hudson said we'd get something "special" if we kept our same LI through all three games. I re-crafted a new save to have Kaidan all three games so I could see what the special was.... 

and.... now I can't find that article... taken down perhaps? 

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JohnnyG wrote...

Blarghonk wrote...

SekondaHuet wrote...

 Well said.  Egg on our face if it was their plan all along to do an indoctrination theory.


That still means we didn't have an ending at realease. Meaning we didn't reseive the full game with purchase, even if it was planned to be free DLC. Also means we have to wait a month after release to get it. Still bad tactic imho.

I agree.  While I will be happy to get a finished product finally, all this angst that has taken place in the meantime would not be appreciated.  If this were the case, it wouldn't stop me from buying their products in the future, but I wouldn't pre-order anything again and I would be a lot more cautious (as opposed to instantly buying something because it is a BioWare product).


Also - to this - when the Day 1 DLC scandal came out - they promised us a "complete" game - and the DLC would just be icing on the cake. If ending DLC was planned all along, it's simply another lie.

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It's painful to read all those quotes in the first post.

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JohnnyG wrote...

Blarghonk wrote...

SekondaHuet wrote...

 Well said.  Egg on our face if it was their plan all along to do an indoctrination theory.


That still means we didn't have an ending at realease. Meaning we didn't reseive the full game with purchase, even if it was planned to be free DLC. Also means we have to wait a month after release to get it. Still bad tactic imho.

I agree.  While I will be happy to get a finished product finally, all this angst that has taken place in the meantime would not be appreciated.  If this were the case, it wouldn't stop me from buying their products in the future, but I wouldn't pre-order anything again and I would be a lot more cautious (as opposed to instantly buying something because it is a BioWare product).


Exactly. If they did it this way I would still respect them as a developer, but as a buisiness they cannot have my money upfront based on passed experiences. I'll wait for the final product and consumer reviews. These DLC things are a tragedy. I like the aspect of expanding on the ME universe through DLC.

Adding stuff that was left out due to time restraints or just being one of those side things, but to DLC the actuall ending, and to quote Angry Joe, "NO... NO..NO"

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While the first five pages of this thread is a great read it has progressively edged more and more towards name calling and trolling. As such I am locking this thread.

Modifié par Thomas Abram, 22 mars 2012 - 08:40 .