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[Zatou]

What a shame.

http://www.gamespot....roversy-6367350

Modifié par Zatou, 25 mars 2012 - 03:50 .

[Link Ashland 614]

Massive point there.

Not that it will matter, they're still gonna hold the line.

[Naughty Bear]

This ending controversy just shows how destructive fans can be.

[TheChosen0ne]

The dude should be saddened because all true fans were saddened by the disgusting ending

[Blooddrunk1004]

Did he even played any of the games before he decided to open his mouth?
I am glad Bioware is doing something for the ending.

[Tazzmission]

TheChosen0ne wrote...

The dude should be saddened because all true fans were saddened by the disgusting ending

 im a true fan and i agree with the man in the article


you dont speak for me when you say all mass effect fans feel the same as you do


i seriously am getting annoyed you think every fan agrees

Modifié par Tazzmission, 21 mars 2012 - 09:24 .

[Salis777]

"If computer games are art than I fully endorse the author of the artwork to have a statement about what they believe should happen," Barnett said. "Just as J.K. Rowling can end her books and say that is the end of Harry Potter. I don't think she should be forced to make another one."

What kind of nonsense is that. No one is forcing Bioware to do anything lol. If JK Rowling blew up Harry Potter and the whole cast in an ending and everyone hated it they'd just say 'wow that was utter crap.' And not buy her books. What a strange analogy.

Over and above that JK Rowling isn't selling a piece of interactive media where it's 'your story, and your decisions matter.' PLUS, they can change the game with a pre-established DLC system which they already planned to do.

All this wishy washy artistic license stuff is just stupid. It's a product, you're paying your writers to write a story, to sell as part of an overall product. Sometimes it goes wrong, change it if it makes business sense.  Cut the artistic fluff - does your Finance Director care about that? lol.  If 100,000 people said wow we really hate the color of tali's costume, they'd just say ok we'll change it (probably?).

Modifié par Salis777, 21 mars 2012 - 09:26 .

[naughty99]

The development period for this game is over. It's already out there. Either you liked it or you didn't.

Personally I enjoyed the game.

[Chaoswind]

we don't want a different ending, we want one that makes sense, but that ship is long gone

[Link Ashland 614]

TheChosen0ne wrote...

The dude should be saddened because all true fans were saddened by the disgusting ending

The definition of true fans was lost long ago. Today, we should just be called fans, to avoid fights and stuff.
A true fan must hate the ending? No. A true fan must love the ending? No.
A fan is the one who likes something and follows it, 'cause he likes it. Wish more could see that.

[Dridengx]

Tazzmission wrote...

TheChosen0ne wrote...

The dude should be saddened because all true fans were saddened by the disgusting ending

 im a true fan and i agree with the man in the article


you dont speak for me when you say all mass effect fans feel the same as you do


i seriously am getting annoyed you think every fan agrees

This

[sistersafetypin]

I am saddened Ken Levine so utterly missed the point

[huntrrz]

Ah. Thanks, but this has been posted before. I don't know that Ken Levine has any direct knowledge of ME3; I believe he may have been speaking on general principle with the 'volitility' of the internet in mind rather than specific knowledge of the complaints in this case.

[Calbeb]

I wouldn't feel SAD about it if I was Ken Levine. If anything, the level of passion people have about this topic says a a lot more about games being art than anything else I've seen since I started playing 20 years ago.

What sucks is the level of destructive criticism that's been leveled, including review-bombing. It also sucks that so many fans have decided that they want to ruin Bioware's reputation even when they loved the majority of both the series and this final game.

But I guess that's to be expected when fan's get so passionate. Just wish people could simmer a little.

[Dominus]

Levine said fans will be let down if BioWare decides to craft a different ending to Mass Effect 3. He added that if the studio does design an alternate ending, neither BioWare nor fans will be satisfied.

I understand where Mr. Levine is coming from, but I disagree. This has happened before, and I wouldn't say they were dissapointed with the result.

[Texansamurai]

I would have to disagree with the article. You make games for two reasons. To give an outstanding product, and to make money. Not only will they make more money by "fixing" the ending, but also give an alternate ending to the cannon so fans can expand on it via Fan Fiction and Art.

Everyone has the fundamental right to complain about a product. We paid over $180 in the series and felt that in a short amount of time, it was for nothing. Though this is not everyone, I dont insist that BW be forced to make a new ending for a certain group of people. I do however applaud them for doing it anyways if they so choose to.

We have the right to free speech they have to right to make a better ending or not

[Tazzmission]

Dridengx wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

TheChosen0ne wrote...

The dude should be saddened because all true fans were saddened by the disgusting ending

 im a true fan and i agree with the man in the article


you dont speak for me when you say all mass effect fans feel the same as you do


i seriously am getting annoyed you think every fan agrees

This

i like the endings the way they are and yes i do agree it can be built upon

people just need to get there story straight because they demand a full  new ending without be specific as to what they want

and then you got people who say it should be free when in fact it shouldnt


some posters go as far to say they themselves have published games wich im not afraid to call bs on because if they did they wouldnt be arguing on what works and what dosent

what should be free and what shouldnt

Modifié par Tazzmission, 21 mars 2012 - 09:35 .

[naughty99]

Chaoswind wrote...

we don't want a different ending, we want one that makes sense, but that ship is long gone

The synthesis ending made sense to me.

It might have been improved a bit with a couple more scenes showing the result of your choices along the way, but it was better than the endings of a lot of other games.

[Legion64]

Bioshock is my favorite franchise, so now I must agree with him no matter what.

END OF LINE.

[BigNastE]

Everone who doesn't agree with the ending haters misses "the point". You guys have the right to free speech, but you don't have the right to insult people that don't agree with you and vice versa. If you like the ending that's great. If you didn't then just post constructive feedback like most of the good people have.

[daftPirate]

Salis777 wrote...

"If computer games are art than I fully endorse the author of the artwork to have a statement about what they believe should happen," Barnett said. "Just as J.K. Rowling can end her books and say that is the end of Harry Potter. I don't think she should be forced to make another one."

What kind of nonsense is that. No one is forcing Bioware to do anything lol. If JK Rowling blew up Harry Potter and the whole cast in an ending and everyone hated it they'd just say 'wow that was utter crap.' And not buy her books. What a strange analogy.

Over and above that JK Rowling isn't selling a piece of interactive media where it's 'your story, and your decisions matter.' PLUS, they can change the game with a pre-established DLC system which they already planned to do.

All this wishy washy artistic license stuff is just stupid. It's a product, you're paying your writers to write a story, to sell as part of an overall product. Sometimes it goes wrong, change it if it makes business sense.  Cut the artistic fluff - does your Finance Director care about that? lol.  If 100,000 people said wow we really hate the color of tali's costume, they'd just say ok we'll change it (probably?).

That absolutely wouldn't happen. People have invested far more time in Harry Potter than MassEffect, and if J.K. Rowling ended her series by blwing up Harry Potter, the outrage would be the same if not worse. 

Not to mention, if BioWare wasn't being forced to create ending DLC, why would they? If it wasn't part of their plan, and they are in no way being forced to make, why would they possibly do it? Fact is, they are  being forced. Fan movements are raising tens of thousands of dollars and boycotting BioWare and EA products as well as some members of those movements smearing forums with hateful and derogatory things. I agree with what Paul Barnett said. If BioWare had always meant to release ending DLC, prima, but they didn't. I don't know how likely fans are to be disappointed even when given an alternate ending (some will be of course, and BioWare will be disappointed for sure), but either the way the entire ORDEAL will leave a sour taste in everyone's mouth.

So many people attacked BioWare, saying they lost faith in 'their favorite developer'. What are the odds that BioWare has now lost faith in its fans?

[Fidget6]

 

"If computer games are art than I fully endorse the author of the artwork to have a statement about what they believe should happen," Barnett said. "Just as J.K. Rowling can end her books and say that is the end of Harry Potter. I don't think she should be forced to make another one."

THIS. THIS. So much THIS. It's what I've been saying. I may not have been thrilled with the ending either, but it's Bioware's game, NOT yours.

Modifié par Fidget6, 21 mars 2012 - 09:37 .

[Rockworm503]

sistersafetypin wrote...

I am saddened Ken Levine so utterly missed the point

This.
I like Lavine he sounds like a cool guy and Bioshock Infinite looks to be very promising but he's way off the mark here.

I'm not surprised this is on Gamespot.  I no longer doubt their biased.
The whole JK Rowling argument is lame.  Did Rowling promise how we read the book would determine how it ends?
Of course not.  People aren't putting guns to Bioware employees heads.  No one is forcing them to do anything.
At this point Bioware has no one to blame but themselves.

[Tazzmission]

BigNastE wrote...

Everone who doesn't agree with the ending haters misses "the point". You guys have the right to free speech, but you don't have the right to insult people that don't agree with you and vice versa. If you like the ending that's great. If you didn't then just post constructive feedback like most of the good people have.

both sides insult eachother it isnt just the we like ending crowd

we try to have a civil convorsation until a pro take back me poster comes in and hijacks it

they even spam the hell out of areas of the furms where it dosent belong

you ask me there looking for a fight

my attitude is if your gona pick a fight you better be ready to get hit and hit hard because they started the situation not us

Modifié par Tazzmission, 21 mars 2012 - 09:38 .

[BigNastE]

I am for a free epilogue download that details the results of all your choices just like Dragon Age.