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#101
Necroscope

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Grand Wazoo wrote...

I know it's Colin even without opening the link. It's just better to IGNore this altogether, much like Colin does to every argument made against his all the time.

Haha, me too, somehow I just knew it's him.

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Dridengx wrote...

I suppose its always easier to see other people's faults and not your own

This is true.  

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MassFrank

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If you want the endings to change. Be glad these guys are against you, because I think they would do more harm if they were for you.

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They don't seem to understand the reasons why we don't think the ending is proper.

Modifié par Chucky141, 21 mars 2012 - 10:52 .


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Chernaya

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Why are they insulting Bioware like this? It's rare that a company actually works with and cares so much about their fans. That's a good thing...

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Mega.scream

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Reptilian Rob wrote...

Mega.scream wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

What is up with his earrings?

Is he a gamer or a Jersey Shore impersonator?


Yeah, and Dillinger Escape Plan sucks. He can't even listen to music right.

I prefer Elton John's Rocket Man.


That my friend is because you know what your talking about. Nothing wrong came out of the '70's (except Disco).

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Dridengx

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anlk92 wrote...

Just let the troll have his fun.


I'm stating IGN's side on the matter, hardly trolling when people are asking questions. But I forgot at BSN if you don't agree with us, you are a troll

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If Colin likes his endings, theres a simple solution for him. Dont download the DLC. There your endings stay as they are.

Modifié par Armass81, 21 mars 2012 - 10:54 .


#109
FamousAmos87

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That video was annoying and quite insulting. We've been anything by a small minority. Sorry, IGN. I'm changing my homepage.

#110
Ultra Prism

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If I see that guy in person, I swear he will get the biggest tomato that Earth has....he is stereotypical maggot

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FitScotGaymer wrote...

aksoileau wrote...

Colin Moriarty tweeted his "wisdom" about video game writers being dead or what not, so I tweeted "Thanks for the feedback, we'll pass this on to the developers!"



Hilarious thing is the ME twitter refuted him on his "points".

I laughed when I saw the pic. So funny.


Where is this? I would love to see it.

#112
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Dridengx wrote...

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IGN is a joke. Seriously.

I can't even be bothered to read their site anymore after how they handled this.


I could easily say the same of BSN members. The way you guys are handling the ending, your emotions, and demanding someone work to be altered for your pleasure of what their ending should be is a joke. I suppose its always easier to see other people's faults and not your own so continue hating IGN for their opinion, just like you hate Gametrailers, Kotaku, Destructiod, Sourcefed, Giant Bomb, and many many more who disagree with your opinion.

Everyone is a joke, but you.. the person who can't get over a video game ending lol.



The vast majority of us presented our grievances in a well thought out and civil manner. And as such Bioware listened (as they have always done) and decided what to do from there.

Most of the other big sites, once they realised what we were getting at, came around to what we were saying. Some continued to disagree but at least they made the attempt to understand.

IGN and Colin Moriarty are different in that he and they have no clue. Literally no clue what they are on about. And have never even made a token effort to learn. They have done nothing but attack and deride those that didnt like the ending, and completely ignore EVERYONE that attempted to respectfully enlighten them.

So yes, that does render IGN a bit of a joke.

They are supposed to be a journalism site after all. If you don't do the research for an article then you are not doing your job as a journalist.

#113
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IronMadness wrote...

Marta Rio II wrote...

Where was their "Fallout 3: A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT" video?

Or the "Prince of Persia Epilogue: A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT" video?



This.

Also


"Dead Space 2 Epilogue: A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT" video?


Clearly these were all abject failures that caused a spiraling decay of video game artistic integrity... oh wait. People loved them for it, and they were seen as successes. Hmmmmmm...

Clearly a case of space magic. :wizard:

#114
The Almighty Ali

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If you compare us to the millions then sure we're a small movement, but atleast we're vocal about it.
Since when did you ever hear of those that never speak up being the ones who pointed out flaws or encouraged change?

If so many were against this, then why aren't they louder then us, why aren't the polls ranked higher at the other spectrum?

And a final thing, If they can't respect Bioware after this then I'm already respecting Bioware ten times more then they ever did.

#115
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Screw Colin Mortiarty tbh. Whenever he opens his mouth ignorance pours out.

#116
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Nuclear Pete wrote...

I respect his views, but he is misinformed (nicest way I can put it).

Changing ficiton is nothing new. Others have listed Fallout 3 and Prince of Persia. But what about films:

Star Wars
Lord of the Rings
Blade Runner
Donnie Darko
Metropolis
Apocalypse Now Redux

All of these films were changed after release.


Artists changing their work =/= Fan demands changing an artist's work

It's not a hard concept.

#117
Quintus Kessler

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I am dumbstruck by IGN's ignorance. Really, the endings just suck. I love Bioware, but what the hell? It's obvious there is a lack of closure and logic.

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It is so sad to see that real journalism seems to be absent from the gaming industry. Now I don't watch IGN at all, so I don't know who these people are.

But you got the guy on the right, asking the "tough questions", and the guy on the left, giving his opinion. One side, one voice, one story. That is supposed to be professional journalism?

Where's the reflection, the other side, the arguments - and "what about my endings? I liked those!" is not really an argument against plot holes. And did I get that right, he admitted there are plot holes? And those do not bother him, at all? That makes me doubt his professionalism even more.

The day we have actual journalism in this industry, with real testing and solid opinions, will most likely be the day I'll be too old to play video games.

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Marta Rio II wrote...

Where was their "Fallout 3: A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT" video?

Or the "Prince of Persia Epilogue: A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT" video?



They have to finish the one for Sherlock Holmes, first. They've been at that one for a century.

#120
Mega.scream

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Fame-KIllz wrote...

Screw Colin Mortiarty tbh. Whenever he opens his mouth ignorance pours out.


IGNorance you say??!!

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Mega.scream wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Mega.scream wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

What is up with his earrings?

Is he a gamer or a Jersey Shore impersonator?


Yeah, and Dillinger Escape Plan sucks. He can't even listen to music right.

I prefer Elton John's Rocket Man.


That my friend is because you know what your talking about. Nothing wrong came out of the '70's (except Disco).

Barry White was pretty good...

#122
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Dridengx wrote...

t003 wrote...

How is the feedback system a "dangerous precedent"?


Because, if you watched the video and listened. How easy will be it be for fans to bully other developers by saying CHANGE YOUR ENDING!! WE HATE IT! BIOWARE DID IT!! wah wah wah you know, like you guys did to Bioware using Broken Steel? lol oh now it rings a bell huh? because you know its been used here many many times


So its too maintsream to please you fans now?

#123
Intrepid Lynx

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Nuclear Pete wrote...

I respect his views, but he is misinformed (nicest way I can put it).

Changing ficiton is nothing new. Others have listed Fallout 3 and Prince of Persia. But what about films:

Star Wars
Lord of the Rings
Blade Runner
Donnie Darko
Metropolis
Apocalypse Now Redux

All of these films were changed after release.


I can add Star Trek II: The Wraith of Khan to your list as well.
Changed pre-production due to Nimoy's change of heart, fan protests, and bleak test-viewings.
http://social.biowar.../index/10355732

Also, Sherlock Holmes was brought back in 1903 by Sir Arther Conan Doyle after 8 years of public insistance. Learned that through all of this.

Modifié par Intrepid Lynx, 21 mars 2012 - 10:58 .


#124
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I stopped watching when he started saying the people complaining are a "super minority"... I guess he hasn't seen all the polls where like 90% of the players hate the ending?...

#125
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Grand Wazoo wrote...

I know it's Colin even without opening the link. It's just better to IGNore this altogether, much like Colin does to every argument made against his all the time.

This, not going to even give them the pageview.