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The SINGLE MOST EVIL thing you can do in Mass Effect.


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#101
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skip to the end for the slightly less horrifying Padok Wiks version, still very powerful. Too bad my favorite ME3 returning character and stand-in character could never meet.

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I think it worked in Deus Ex, the whole world environment was so different than ME, the protagonist was totally non-shepard. It's like it didn't matter what you chose, those choices fit that game world and main character.

ME does not fit the scenario so the same can't really be applied.

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sistersafetypin wrote...

shadey wrote...

i think siding with the geth and having tali kill herself was sadder

also if you don't do jacks mission she becomes a cerberus phantom and there's a audio log of her being tortured on TIM ship.


This is why I play Paragon, these outcomes would strip the fun away from this game for me


Lol? Neither of those options are renegade. Killing the geth is the renegade option their actually. Or saving both by yelling at gerrel. Not doing a mission =/= renegade.... thought that one was pretty obvious.

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I did it.

Mordin wouldn't listen to reason.

Is there a way to convince him?

#105
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GhostV9 wrote...

I did it.

Mordin wouldn't listen to reason.

Is there a way to convince him?


You can convince him to see reason if Wrex and Eve are dead. Otherwise, no. And you have to put a bullet in his back to save the universe from another Krogan rebellion. 


The choice on Rannoch (Quarian or Geth) is probably the most morally taxing of the choices presented in the game. If you can't resolve it peacefully (and some saves it is impossible to do so) you're forced to wipe out the Quarians or the Geth. Neither of which deserve destruction by any stretch of the imagination.

Mordin is hard, but one could reason that the needs of the many (in this case saving the galaxy from yet another Krogan kill-horde) outweigh the needs of the few, Mordin and his guilt-driven need to atone for a life-time of morally ambiguous, yet technically correct choices.

Modifié par Red Dust, 21 mars 2012 - 11:52 .


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I did for my renegade run, felt horrible though. Not only did I kill Mordin, I likely aided a genocide. And when I also shot Wrex, well. Not even a renegade can justify these actions =P

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If you kill Mordin then you are a heartless monster that is deserving of the ending.

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I did this on my Renegade Femshep... I thought it was the only way to get the Salarian's help.

I also had to kill Wrex. :(

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Red Dust wrote...

GhostV9 wrote...

I did it.

Mordin wouldn't listen to reason.

Is there a way to convince him?


You can convince him to see reason if Wrex and Eve are dead. Otherwise, no. And you have to put a bullet in his back to save the universe from another Krogan rebellion. 


Does he still die?

#110
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GhostV9 wrote...

Red Dust wrote...

GhostV9 wrote...

I did it.

Mordin wouldn't listen to reason.

Is there a way to convince him?


You can convince him to see reason if Wrex and Eve are dead. Otherwise, no. And you have to put a bullet in his back to save the universe from another Krogan rebellion. 


Does he still die?


No. He goes to help build The Crucible and is on the vid-com with the rest of the ME2 characters before the final battle. 

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GhostV9

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frozn89 wrote...

I did for my renegade run, felt horrible though. Not only did I kill Mordin, I likely aided a genocide. And when I also shot Wrex, well. Not even a renegade can justify these actions =P


I did it on my main Paragade character. It was the defining moment of my playthrough and my favorite part of 3. It really made me feel terrible, but not all Krogan are like Wrex. Had to be done.

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While this was truly despicable thing along with killing your crewmates that stuck with you on your adventures. I believe that the most eivl thing would be killing entire quarian race or geth does not matter. Genocide should not be forgiven even in the face of extinction otherwise you are exactly what you are fighting against.

#113
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Oh my God I felt evil just watching this.

#114
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"Weapon given in good faith"...

That action bypassed my "cry like a baby" reflex and found itself flapping about in my brain trying to register anything above shock and numbed hatred.

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sistersafetypin wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Let Samara kill herself then shoot her daughter.


I screamed at my monitor before I saw the Paragon interrupt, it was so heartbreaking 


I let the Rachni queen go and thought it meant Grunt would die. I was basically in tears and then almost injured myself jumping out of my chair when he showed up all bloody.

ugh moments like that are why I love bioware.

#116
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 I did it.

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Synthesis.

Violating every organism in the galaxy on a genetic level and remaking them in (somewhat) of my own image...That's pretty horrific. (Fortunately most of them were immediately killed when the mass relays blew up.) I personally would rather just be killed than have my entire being remade and borg'd up.

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Killing Marauder Shields

#119
Sawtooth357

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It's a shame this action is so evil, because it's also one of the most intense scenes in the trilogy. Mark Meer does a really good job as male Shep in this scene.

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Red Dust wrote...

GhostV9 wrote...

I did it.

Mordin wouldn't listen to reason.

Is there a way to convince him?


You can convince him to see reason if Wrex and Eve are dead. Otherwise, no. And you have to put a bullet in his back to save the universe from another Krogan rebellion. 


The choice on Rannoch (Quarian or Geth) is probably the most morally taxing of the choices presented in the game. If you can't resolve it peacefully (and some saves it is impossible to do so) you're forced to wipe out the Quarians or the Geth. Neither of which deserve destruction by any stretch of the imagination.


I honestly think I might have quit playing the game if I hadn't been able to resolve it peacefully. I saw the cut scenes that happen if you choose one or the other and I would have been scarred for life. (at least if it was Legion, if it was just Geth VI I wouldn't care)

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GhostV9 wrote...

frozn89 wrote...

I did for my renegade run, felt horrible though. Not only did I kill Mordin, I likely aided a genocide. And when I also shot Wrex, well. Not even a renegade can justify these actions =P


I did it on my main Paragade character. It was the defining moment of my playthrough and my favorite part of 3. It really made me feel terrible, but not all Krogan are like Wrex. Had to be done.


Most Krogan are like Wreav. In fact, you arrive on Tuchaunka and there's three dozen Krogan buttheads hooting and grunting for Mordin's BLOOD. They wanted to kill him right there. The guy who was about to cure them.

Wrex can't change his people, even he is like them. On the car ride over to The Shroud he brings up his plans for "THE NEW KROGAN EMPIRE". Eve's the only one with any degree of sense, and she's got the immune system of a quarian. How long will she survive on that irradiated hell-planet?

The Genophange must continue. I'm sorry, Mordin. 

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Letting Samara commit suicide because she thinks it's the only way to save her daughter, then KILLING said daughter right afterwards.

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let samara commit suicide and then kill her daughter, pretty damned evil if you ask me (insert mad evil laugh here)

#124
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y, disgusting. Killing Wrex is also ugly.

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Fubaring the Legion/geth quest order, resulting in Tali's suicide. Horrid. I screwed that up the first time through, and had to revert to a save three hours earlier, on order to undo my stupid mistake.

It. Was. Awful.