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[OhoniX]

Except there is factual inaccuracy involved...

Nope, at least none that were listed in the original post. Any facts they listed were true, any opinions they listed were open to interpretation.

The perfect example is the one about the Rachni decision playing a huge role just in the final battle.

It does. They add to your resource score if you play it right, and if you don't, I hear that they can turn on you.

That statement was made after the game had gone gold. What is the decision worth again? Something like two hundred points or something? Yeah that's not a huge consequence in any sense of the word.[/color]

That's your opinion. If they said it had no consequence, and it did have one, or if they said it had a consequence and it had absolutely none, then those would be lies, but for them to say it has a "huge" consequence, and the magnitude of that effect is not what you would consider "huge," makes it a difference of opinion, not a factual inaccuracy.

[Haron50]

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Modifié par Chris Priestly, 26 mars 2012 - 04:55 .

[Skullheart]

You should add the quote about every romance will receive equal tratment, or something like that.

[Lunatic LK47]

Skullheart wrote...

You should add the quote about every romance will receive equal tratment, or something like that.

Thanks for the reminder. Can you send me a link to the article? I will add this in.

[BeefoTheBold]

I'll simplify the open letter to the good doctor a bit:

Quit *bleeping* lying to your fanbase. Quit *bleeping* misleading your fanbase. Quit spinning "we always intended (fill in the blank)" on various things like DA2 and the ME3 ending to your fanbase.

Or simplified even further to make sure Bioware really gets it and there's no room for confusion, I can reduce my three recommendations down to one single thing:

Quit abusing our trust.

[Lunatic LK47]

BeefoTheBold wrote...

I'll simplify the open letter to the good doctor a bit:

Quit *bleeping* lying to your fanbase. Quit *bleeping* misleading your fanbase. Quit spinning "we always intended (fill in the blank)" on various things like DA2 and the ME3 ending to your fanbase.

Or simplified even further to make sure Bioware really gets it and there's no room for confusion, I can reduce my three recommendations down to one single thing:

Quit abusing our trust.

Bolded for truth.

[Ryan1337l33t]

Bioware might have our money, but if they want anything even reminiscent of a fan-base after this debacle, they need to listen.

[Pallando]

Interesting thread. Hope it will get answered...

[Lunatic LK47]

Pallando wrote...

Interesting thread. Hope it will get answered...

Agreed.

[Lunatic LK47]

Bumping. This thread won't go away, and I'm making sure of it.

[Beta-Breech]

Posted in another thread:

About the argument as to wether or not this was a commissioned piece of work:

Seeing as that before the game was released there were many pre orders made when the game was made available to pre order. So well over a year ago, Bioware made money for the work that wasn't yet finished, they made promises as to what this would contain. That is in a round about way commissioned work.

I'd be content right now if Bioware said that the they were rushed for time and that the final act of the game or at least some content that would really bring real closure was being made and they elaborated further on this. We don't need things explained about the current ending, there's very little you can do to make any of it really make sense without going for the indoctrination theory. Space magic and re-writing the universe you set will only make people more angry.

I'm past the anger stage I'm just very disappointed by what felt from the start of this game like rushed work. It played out much less like an RPG but more like an on the rails shooter. Where was the exploration? I didn't like that I spent time getting war assets that you never see at the end, that you never really get to experience.

Modifié par Beta-Breech, 26 mars 2012 - 10:04 .

[Lunatic LK47]

Bumping again.

[Lunatic LK47]

Bumping again.

[LegendaryBlade]

They aren't ever going to address this. The closest thing we've gotten is when Chris Priestly posted in a thread "These aren't lies" and locked it.

Just add these quotes to the long list of things we will never get answers to.

[Lunatic LK47]

LegendaryBlade wrote...

They aren't ever going to address this. The closest thing we've gotten is when Chris Priestly posted in a thread "These aren't lies" and locked it.

Just add these quotes to the long list of things we will never get answers to.

Never been on the forums 24/7. Which topic was that exactly?

[OhoniX]

Seeing as that before the game was released there were many pre orders made when the game was made available to pre order. So well over a year ago, Bioware made money for the work that wasn't yet finished, they made promises as to what this would contain. That is in a round about way commissioned work.

As someone who does commissioned work for a living, NO, Mass Effect 3 was by no means a commissioned work. For one thing, the pre-orders came well into the development process. a ear might seem like a long time, but in game development that's practically polish. The actual design work, the plotting was all done years before that. For another, it wasn't pre-ordered by a single person, or even by a collected group of people with a shared goal, it was pre-ordered by thousands of people with no expressed goal beyond "make more Mass Effect."

If everyone who pre-ordered also signed a document, at that time, that said something to the effect of "Have the Reapers turned into ice cream and Shepard gets a cake at the end," then you may have a point, but if a customer tells me "draw whatever you like," then they'd better damned well accept whatever I came up with. If they want a specific outcome then they need to tell me, and if they are only one of thousands of customers paying for a single piece of art collectively, then their individual viewpoint is pretty much irrelevant because there's no way to know what the other 99.9999% of the players want.

[bluewolv1970]

I really do not think Bioware cares about false advertising when they have a stickied thread on their front page that is, in and of itself, one big lie...

[Lunatic LK47]

Bumping.

[Primalrose]

As if Bioware are going to respond to this properly? They can't. Honestly, I think time constraints enforced by EA meant they could not live up to their promises, which I think were genuine and originally intended. So its an awkward situation to be in.

[Lunatic LK47]

Primalrose wrote...

As if Bioware are going to respond to this properly? They can't. Honestly, I think time constraints enforced by EA meant they could not live up to their promises, which I think were genuine and originally intended. So its an awkward situation to be in.

The purpose of this thread is to keep this at the forefront of the topics, and this is a major glaring issue.  I will not stop until BioWare addresses this topic.

[OhoniX]

If they thought your post was worthy of caring about then they could just lock it. That they have not only shows that they know it for the joke that it is.

[PiEman]

devSin wrote...

Except for Mike Gamble's statement about multiplayer not being a requirement, these all fall under "epic failure to deliver", not outright lie.

It's sad to see that they could talk a better game than they were able to play.

Several of these are very specifically telling us that there will not be one of three different endings.

Hell, look at Casey's "A, B, C" quote...

[jzzabelle]

Really saddening we paid $200 dollars on all 3 games and have an ending like this. The promises they made are full of nothing but lies.

Modifié par jzzabelle, 27 mars 2012 - 05:59 .

[Ihatebadgames]

They don't like being reminded of things they said.We're supose to forget and just throw our money at them.