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[Obrusnine]

http://www.ign.com/v...erous-precedent

Who else thinks Colin Moriarty is an idiot who obviously doesn't get the point?

I'm an artist myself, and honestly, if my fans said that they wanted changes to something they weren't satisfied with, I would respect their opinion as long as it was justified. In the case of Mass Effect 3, it is perfectly justified.

Seriously, who does this guy think he is? He "lost respect for" Bioware because they saw what was wrong with their art? I don't get this guys logic.

Seriously, anyone who actually likes the ending just doesn't understand. The Ending completely conflicts with the series it belongs to, how and why would they like that? As an artist, I can see the errors, and if I ever did anything remotely as bad as the ending of this game, I would hope my fans would tell me what I did wrong, especially with the respectful detail most of us have.

He calls us the vocal minority? I'm not sure how that works, because the amount of people voting against the ending is pretty insane. Percentages don't usually vary, and if you counted in the rest of the purchasers that aren't aware any of this is going on, they would probably say the same things we are. Some people don't have the confidence to be vocal, because we do suddenly our opinions don't mean anything? That our opinions are wrong? That our ability to change the art we experience is a bad thing?

This isn't dangerous, it's justice in it's best form. It's also co-operation between developer and fanbase to make all future things they produce better.

I don't see why people like this guy don't realize that.

What do you all think?

[Salis777]

Agreed, he's an idiot. I don't see him running anything more than his mouth for the next 40 years, he has no concept of any of the underlying business dynamics involved. His opinion is completely irrelevant and I bet Bioware is even wishing he'd be quiet lol.

[HectorTheWellEndowed]

I think everyone needs to stop giving IGN validation.

[Olueq]

IGNorance is bliss

[ragnorok87]

ign deserves no validation at all. they are paid by gaming developers and publishers to give reviews.

[Salis777]

The PLC wrote...

If I released an album with my music, and my so called 'fans' started to yell at me to change the last few tracks, I would just tell them to **** off. Really. You din't like my album? Fine, sell it. Give it away. Burn it, I don't care. But don't you dare tell me how to do my stuff.

And if your loyal fans gave you feedback about what they liked/disliked?

And if you'd signed up to a production studio, and you told your fans to f off?  Bye bye contract, and you'd probably get sued.

Making music because you like music as an artform and making music for a corporation for customers, are two HIGHLY different things.

So is this.

[Texansamurai]

ragnorok87 wrote...

ign deserves no validation at all. they are paid by gaming developers and publishers to give reviews.

THIS ^^

Also ME series is different, we pay artists to give us the ability to craft our own story. The choices were limited it was like an Adventure game rather than a RPG.

In a Role playing game, you play the role of your character. If you arent able to make unqiue decessions and feel isolated from shepard then as a game you have FAILED.

[ArcanistLibram]

The PLC wrote...

If I released an album with my music, and my so called 'fans' started to yell at me to change the last few tracks, I would just tell them to **** off. Really. You din't like my album? Fine, sell it. Give it away. Burn it, I don't care. But don't you dare tell me how to do my stuff.

And then you'd end up in the streets with no money.

I can think of a lot of artists whose careers went downhill after they lost their fanbase for one reason or another. Bioware is a business and no business can afford to lose its customers.

[Texhnolyze101]

Where is anonymous when you need them.

[BlacJAC74]

Seriously, sometimes the answer lies a lot closer to home.

It's not about "getting the point", it's about the fans now dictating to the devs how things should be done. I'm all for devs incorporating game play ideas that have been derived from their fan base, but dictating how the story should pan out - nah, that's just something else entirely.

Modifié par BlacJAC74, 21 mars 2012 - 11:30 .

[BatmanPWNS]

It's his opinion. Why do you care so much? Complaining about IGN complaining is pretty useless.

[Obrusnine]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Where is anonymous when you need them.

They were probably captured secretly by the US government!

lol

Anyways, I totally wish they would do something Colin "Moron" Moriarty,

[culletron1]

I think he's right... I don't like the ending one bit but if the writers are geniunely happy with it they shouldn't change it.

Art isn't a democracy.

Might I add: Its not wrong for people the say they don't like it either and bioware should take the thoughtful criticisms into account for the NEXT time.

Modifié par culletron1, 21 mars 2012 - 11:34 .

[Obrusnine]

culletron1 wrote...

I think he's right... I don't like the ending one bit but if the writers are geniunely happy with it they shouldn't change it.

Art isn't a democracy.

It is when we're paying as much for it as we are.

[Icemix]

culletron1 wrote...

I think he's right... I don't like the ending one bit but if the writers are geniunely happy with it they shouldn't change it.

Art isn't a democracy.

Seriously stop with the "its art" bullcrap.
Its invalid.

[BlacJAC74]

I wish i could go back and change how IT ended. Now, that was ****.

[TheMakoMaster]

fine colin its art
...bad art.

[Obrusnine]

The PLC wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

culletron1 wrote...

I think he's right... I don't like the ending one bit but if the writers are geniunely happy with it they shouldn't change it.

Art isn't a democracy.

It is when we're paying as much for it as we are.

How much did you pay for your game? 1000 bucks?

Nope, but me and my family are pretty poor, so basically, kind of.

It's not even about the real amount that we're spending, it's about the amount they are making. We shouldn't have to give anyone anything for art that isn't up to anyone's standards, including their own, but especially ours.

Cash speaks louder than words.

[Texhnolyze101]

Nobody cares about what that ass clown thinks ignore him.

[tamperous]

Show me an artist that doesn't please his fans.... I show you next guy tending bar.

[Salis777]

The PLC wrote...

Salis777 wrote...

The PLC wrote...

If I released an album with my music, and my so called 'fans' started to yell at me to change the last few tracks, I would just tell them to **** off. Really. You din't like my album? Fine, sell it. Give it away. Burn it, I don't care. But don't you dare tell me how to do my stuff.

And if your loyal fans gave you feedback about what they liked/disliked?

And if you'd signed up to a production studio, and you told your fans to f off?  Bye bye contract, and you'd probably get sued.

Making music because you like music as an artform and making music for a corporation for customers, are two HIGHLY different things.

So is this.

Of course people are allowed to state their opinion, and of course they're allowed to hate my stuff. But asking me to change my music? Why not just listen to something else then? If you don't like my stuff, don't buy it. I don't care. Same with ME3. You don't like it? Fine, sell the game and don't buy another Bioware game ever again. It's quite simple, really.

Sure, thats one way they might deal with it.  They can take a hit on sales if they think its a minority issue.  If it isn't, and it doesn't look like it is to me then someone is going to make them make changes.  Whether they want to or not.  Sell your soul to corporate America and that's the gamebook.

As for the fan/gamer/customer/whatever side of it, I think it's great that people are speaking up in a mostly rational way.  I really can't see how its negative, I mean not to get too off the tracks but it built the damn country.

[Legion64]

Lol, IGN's opinion.