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[Lokiador]

I do not think this movement is actually over. No fix have been released, and while the recent comments from BW executives hint that something will be done.

Sure, there are some dissident voices here and there, but that is quite a result of the very success of the movement.

Sure it may not be as dynamic as it was one week ago, but its strength relies in its ability to exist over time, not on punctual outbursts.

So, we should not consider our cause as lost or over. We have a clear objective in mind (new endings), and only realization of this objective should close the movement.

Moreover, we are doing something unprecedented : we are redefining the way a game developper interracts with its audience, including the fact that it should never blatantly disregard said audience opinion.

Calling this movement over is the best way of making it lose some of its impact.

[Scoob]

We are not done here people. Bioware did not listen, they choose to ignore our perfectly logical arguments and brush it off as "deconstructive". They think all we want is closure and will NOT change the endings, which this movement IS about, all they will do is add to it. It is like putting a half rotten cherry on a piece of poo.

https://twitter.com/...517553602629633

Hold the damn line!

Modifié par Scoob, 21 mars 2012 - 11:43 .

[TLK Spires]

what the hell are you talking about? it isn't over until it's over. nothing's been done *at all*, only slight hints at possibilities. it will have been worth it when something is *done*.

until then, i hold the line.

[Reptilian Rob]

joiner87 wrote...

RLesueur wrote...

I think it was worth, like you said, we raised loads of money for sick kids and we got Bioware to understand some of our points.

Most of us stayed civil despite ridiculous levels of immaturity from the gaming media too.

+100, im so glas that so many managed to stay civil...

+1000

[Jamanticarius]

I haven't heard the fat lady sing yet, DoctorCrowtgamer.

[Simpfan]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Simpfan wrote...

I find it a little sad that the only reason you raised money for sick kids was because you hated a video game ending.

If the ending was perfectly fine, would these kids have still gotten all your money?

Your logic is ridiculous. You can't possibly be berating somebody for donating to charity? What does the reason matter?

Im not berating them for donating.
But their reason is a valid point of discussion.
Would that much money have been raise for charity if people were satisfied with the ending?
I think not

[Aznable Char]

The announcement today did nothing . It was the same as before . There is still no product and there is still nothing concrete . WE already knew they were announcing something in April . Bioware is just using this as an opportunity to burst tension so that people can be lulled into a false sense of security .

The actions that we work on now determine what kind of products they are creating . If they see us backing down , they will make something small and non-committal because the outrage later will be small and people will 'forget about it' , but if we make it clear that we will continue to affect their sales through word of mouth , through distrusting their products in the future , etc , then we may see them scrambling to try and rebuild consumer confidence .

This is not about art . This is about attempting to encourage bioware through financial and vocal means to return to its old model of creating successful games because we love bioware products and hope that they don't disappear or become mediocre or unfinished .

[nomoredruggs]

It's far from over....Ray's response hints at that, but doesn't explicitly state anything of the sort, neither does he commit to something.

Unless we get an explicit official response, everything is up in the air.

So keep civil, and keep holding the line

[SamFlagg]

Simpfan wrote...

Ibecomedeath wrote...

Simpfan wrote...

I find it a little sad that the only reason you raised money for sick kids was because you hated a video game ending.

If the ending was perfectly fine, would these kids have still gotten all your money?

Please don't even go there... Clear attempt to inflame this thread... Have a nice day, but do it somewhere else...

Yep.
Everyone who disagrees is a troll.

I presume you also believe that anyone who gave to charity only because they watched a telethon, or anyone who gave to charity only because there was a celebrity show promoting is should also hang their heads in shame.

No not everyone who disagrees is a troll.  However when your primary goal is to come in and make people feel guilty for donating money, then maybe you should match the $75000 already thrown in?

Try as you might, I don't think you're going to find anyone who donated saying "Man, I didn't get the endings, I should go ask those sick children for that money back"

[Mev186]

It was at first.... But now... seeing that people are still up in arms even after Bioware said they are looking into ways to fix it..

Now, I don't know...

Modifié par Mev186, 21 mars 2012 - 11:44 .

[RLesueur]

Simpfan wrote...

I find it a little sad that the only reason you raised money for sick kids was because you hated a video game ending.

If the ending was perfectly fine, would these kids have still gotten all your money?

Sorry that you're upset sick children got money.

[Wrathra]

Edit: clarification

I think it was worth it for the money raised for the kids, no matter the reason. The kids win.

Other than that, I haven't seen Bioware do anything, yet. If they do, great on them, and they will earn my business back. Until then, its all talk.

Modifié par Wrathra, 21 mars 2012 - 11:45 .

[animallover11]

Sequin wrote...

Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it, which is why I am certain Bioware will not make this mistake twice... so long as you remind them on occasion of this debacle. Know that you have made an impact, even if it cannot be seen in the here and now.

very well put. i agree

[Ibecomedeath]

Simpfan wrote...

Ibecomedeath wrote...

Simpfan wrote...

I find it a little sad that the only reason you raised money for sick kids was because you hated a video game ending.

If the ending was perfectly fine, would these kids have still gotten all your money?

Please don't even go there... Clear attempt to inflame this thread... Have a nice day, but do it somewhere else...

Yep.
Everyone who disagrees is a troll.

And 'troll' is a term used far too often.. However, in this case, I wouldn't dissagree with you...

You jump out of no where and try and degrade the fact some good has come out of the Retake movement, outside of actually achieving what many claimed was all but impossible and having the ending changed, by attacking the fact money was raised for charity in it's name...

Go back under your bridge and have a nice day...

[N7Infernox]

I'm sorry but we are still holding the line.
Ray's statement= +40 (diplomatic) war assets,

[Cody211282]

N7Infernox wrote...

I'm sorry but we are still holding the line.
Ray's statement= +40 (diplomatic) war assets,

This

It's not over until we get the better endings.

[MintyCool]

TLK Spires wrote...

what the hell are you talking about? it isn't over until it's over. nothing's been done *at all*, only slight hints at possibilities. it will have been worth it when something is *done*.

until then, i hold the line.

The public is agaisnt you. The media is agaisnt you. The Dev's feel you are entitled.

You lost: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9870213/1

[Blackbear2106]

Totally worth it, didn't think I see the day Bioware decides to do something about the ending, thanks everyone and keep Holding the line:D

[Cody211282]

MintyCool wrote...

TLK Spires wrote...

what the hell are you talking about? it isn't over until it's over. nothing's been done *at all*, only slight hints at possibilities. it will have been worth it when something is *done*.

until then, i hold the line.

The public is agaisnt you. The media is agaisnt you. The Dev's feel you are entitled.

You lost: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9870213/1

Good lord not this again.

All your doing is tried to up your threads veiws by trolling people.

And hell if the devs think that then I'll take my entitled self, and all my money someplace else, they don't need it anymore.

Modifié par Cody211282, 21 mars 2012 - 11:52 .

[goose2989]

Luxure wrote...

Where did you get the info that the Retake movement has come to an head ? Source please ?

I can tell you, I'm not going anywhere

[Amanthor]

We aren't exactly done yet, we only have more words, I want something I can play, like a good ending, if you know what i'm implying.

[yahtzo]

It depends what we are getting.

If its just some clarifications on the current endings with no real changes then people will go ape **** and this was all a waste of time (EXCEPT for the Child's Play charity, no matter what happens that is the one good thing to come from this)

If they go with the indoc theory and do something with that then I will consider it worth it

[Karrie788]

MintyCool wrote...

TLK Spires wrote...

what the hell are you talking about? it isn't over until it's over. nothing's been done *at all*, only slight hints at possibilities. it will have been worth it when something is *done*.

until then, i hold the line.

The public is agaisnt you. The media is agaisnt you. The Dev's feel you are entitled.

You lost: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9870213/1

That's cute.

[nomoredruggs]

MintyCool wrote...

TLK Spires wrote...

what the hell are you talking about? it isn't over until it's over. nothing's been done *at all*, only slight hints at possibilities. it will have been worth it when something is *done*.

until then, i hold the line.

The public is agaisnt you. The media is agaisnt you. The Dev's feel you are entitled.

You lost:

Oh look, it's you again, trying to divert trafic to your thread....
Nope, not going to work....Is there even any other point of linking this in threads where people totaly disagree with the premise of your thread?