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[Calamity]

I've said it before and I will say it again - I don't care if they wipe out the whole Normandy crew in a blaze of glory! But... it has to mean something, fill the plot holes and overall, make sense!

http://www.gamefront...-via-april-dlc/
A comment from Peter on the above review said it best:

I’m Commander Shepard, and this is my new favorite article on the “Retake Mass Effect 3″ movement.

“You all know the mission, and what is at stake.

I have come to trust each of you with my life — but I have also heard murmurs of discontent.

I share your concerns. We are trained for gaming; we would be legends, but the records are sealed.

Glory in online battle is our way.

Think of our heroes; Leeroy Jenkins, who defeated a raid group with a single pull.

Or Rick Astley, who kept excited gamers at bay with hidden Rickrolls.

These giants do not seem to give us solace here, but they are not all that we are.

Before the network, there was the Atari. Before video games, there was D&D!

Our hours of gameplay stopped Saren and Sovereign, but before that we held the line!

Our influence stopped the Collectors, but before that, we held the line!

Our influence will stop Bioware and Mass Effect 3′s crappy endings; in the battle today,

WE WILL HOLD THE LINE!!”

[katamuro]

Even if we dont succeed in our undertaking just the charity makes it worth it.
And anyway we are not finished yet and its still early for that comment.

[S1at3]

Ferris Bueller wouldn't stand for this. He's my hero.  Do you think Commander Shepard ever saw Ferris Bueller's day off?

Modifié par S1at3, 22 mars 2012 - 12:47 .

[suusuuu]

Calamity wrote...

I've said it before and I will say it again - I don't care if they wipe out the whole Normandy crew in a blaze of glory! But... it has to mean something, fill the plot holes and overall, make sense!

http://www.gamefront...-via-april-dlc/
A comment from Peter on the above review said it best:

I’m Commander Shepard, and this is my new favorite article on the “Retake Mass Effect 3″ movement.

“You all know the mission, and what is at stake.

I have come to trust each of you with my life — but I have also heard murmurs of discontent.

I share your concerns. We are trained for gaming; we would be legends, but the records are sealed.

Glory in online battle is our way.

Think of our heroes; Leeroy Jenkins, who defeated a raid group with a single pull.

Or Rick Astley, who kept excited gamers at bay with hidden Rickrolls.

These giants do not seem to give us solace here, but they are not all that we are.

Before the network, there was the Atari. Before video games, there was D&D!

Our hours of gameplay stopped Saren and Sovereign, but before that we held the line!

Our influence stopped the Collectors, but before that, we held the line!

Our influence will stop Bioware and Mass Effect 3′s crappy endings; in the battle today,

WE WILL HOLD THE LINE!!”

what about Marauder Shields? 

[Qutayba]

We don't know what they will be doing yet, short or long. But they will be doing something. The mainstream press today is interpreting Ray Muzyka's comment as an unambiguous promise for new ending content.

Some have suggested that the writers now don't have to worry about silly EA deadlines and can take the time to make a great ending. We will see. And we will need to be patient.

If BioWare comes through with a solid ending, then the Retake movement helped save the game and possibly helped repair BioWare's reputation.

Stay civil, folks. The Retake fans are not he only fans that count.

[Sibbwolf]

suusuuu wrote...what about Marauder Shields? 

We'll build a monument to him, regardless.

[S1at3]

suusuuu wrote...

Calamity wrote...

I've said it before and I will say it again - I don't care if they wipe out the whole Normandy crew in a blaze of glory! But... it has to mean something, fill the plot holes and overall, make sense!

http://www.gamefront...-via-april-dlc/
A comment from Peter on the above review said it best:

I’m Commander Shepard, and this is my new favorite article on the “Retake Mass Effect 3″ movement.

“You all know the mission, and what is at stake.

I have come to trust each of you with my life — but I have also heard murmurs of discontent.

I share your concerns. We are trained for gaming; we would be legends, but the records are sealed.

Glory in online battle is our way.

Think of our heroes; Leeroy Jenkins, who defeated a raid group with a single pull.

Or Rick Astley, who kept excited gamers at bay with hidden Rickrolls.

These giants do not seem to give us solace here, but they are not all that we are.

Before the network, there was the Atari. Before video games, there was D&D!

Our hours of gameplay stopped Saren and Sovereign, but before that we held the line!

Our influence stopped the Collectors, but before that, we held the line!

Our influence will stop Bioware and Mass Effect 3′s crappy endings; in the battle today,

WE WILL HOLD THE LINE!!”

what about Marauder Shields? 

Marauder shields lives on through demotivational posters and signatures.

[S1at3]

Thinking about it.... I would not be suprised if South Park managed to work this whole movement into an episode.

[WildcardCharlie]

killnoob wrote...

WildcardCharlie wrote...

S1at3 wrote...

WildcardCharlie wrote...

Simpfan wrote...

I find it a little sad that the only reason you raised money for sick kids was because you hated a video game ending.

If the ending was perfectly fine, would these kids have still gotten all your money?

Whereas, you didn't raise money for sick kids at all.

So shut up.

Yet another example of how intolerant and violent some of the individuals in this movement are.  If you like the endings, disagree with their motives, etc you're automatically a dickbag in their eyes.  I agree with you Simpfan.

Actually this is an example of how desperate the anti-Retake people are to paint us in a negative way. You're undermining 75,000 dollars given to charity because you say it wouldn't have been given if not for the bad endings.

Why don't you show us all the right way to do it and donate all of your money to charity right now with no motive? Put your money where your mouth is, or sit down and be quiet.

We gave a bunch of money to charity, doesn't matter why we did it. We did it. Did you?

what? your sacred movement can't be questioned or scrutinised? another example o how intolerant some of the individuals in this movement are. 

I'll take that as a "no, I haven't given to charity lately"

[WildcardCharlie]

S1at3 wrote...

Donate all my money?  You donated every bit of your income to charity?  Now why did it take something you didn't like to get you to donate?  So long as people keep doing stuff you don't want you'll throw money at it to change it? I donate all the time, every year since I've joined the military.  I've never done it to further my own agenda, never done it in the hopes of receiving anything in return and as my tax return would show you, I sure as hell didn't do it for a rebate.

The money would not have been given if not for bad endings.  You denying that is ridiculous.

You're so full of it. You're ripping on people for giving 75k to a good cause because of their reasoning for doing it. That's what is ridiculous. If we wanted to we could have saved our money and just whined, instead we decided to get something positive done.

Meanwhile, all you're doing is sitting around trolling an internet forum to get a rise out of people.

Troll away, it won't change a thing. We're getting what we want, and helping kids while we do it. You can sit on the sidelines and cry about it if that pleases you.

Modifié par WildcardCharlie, 22 mars 2012 - 01:04 .

[S1at3]

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Modifié par S1at3, 22 mars 2012 - 01:03 .

[S1at3]

WildcardCharlie wrote...

S1at3 wrote...

Donate all my money?  You donated every bit of your income to charity?  Now why did it take something you didn't like to get you to donate?  So long as people keep doing stuff you don't want you'll throw money at it to change it? I donate all the time, every year since I've joined the military.  I've never done it to further my own agenda, never done it in the hopes of receiving anything in return and as my tax return would show you, I sure as hell didn't do it for a rebate.

The money would not have been given if not for bad endings.  You denying that is ridiculous.

You're so full of it. You're ripping on people for giving 75k to a good cause because of their reasoning for doing it. That's what is ridiculous. If we wanted to we could have saved our money and just whined, instead we decided to get something positive done.

Meanwhile, all you're doing is sitting on your ass trolling an internet forum to get a rise out of people.

Troll away, it won't change a thing. We're getting what we want, and helping kids while we do it. You can sit on the sidelines and cry about it if that pleases you.

You're the one who got offended when it was pointed out these children would not have any money if people weren't upset about not getting what they wanted.  I voice my opinion, you're threatened by it so you lash out.  I never tried to get a rise out of anyone.   It seems my contributions to other charities over the course of my career don't matter to you since it was not in support of your cause.

Modifié par S1at3, 22 mars 2012 - 01:06 .

[WildcardCharlie]

S1at3 wrote...

You're the one who got offended when it was pointed out these children would not have any money if people weren't upset about not getting what they wanted.  I voice my opinion, you're threatened by it so you lash out.  I never tried to get a rise out of anyone. 

Here's what you apparently don't get: There was nothing that meant the children had to get the money in the first place. We chose to do that because we realized we had a platform with which we could do a lot of good. It was something people were passionate about that was getting a lot of attention, so why not use it for tremendous good?

The children got their money. Nothing changes that, no amount negativity from your side of the argument. Try to undermine it all you want.

Retake raised 75k for charity. How much did you anti-retakers raise?

Nothing, cause you were too busy sitting around whining about us giving to charity.

Modifié par WildcardCharlie, 22 mars 2012 - 01:11 .

[Sibbwolf]

And once again the topic is taken off topic to debate donating to charity.. nice work.

[billyzero]

Of course it was worth it if we helped save the ME franchise (not to mention raising money for charity is always a good thing)

I think this movement will be analyzed by a LOT of gaming companies because it had a big impact on the current paradigm.

[magnuskn]

Simpfan wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Simpfan wrote...

I find it a little sad that the only reason you raised money for sick kids was because you hated a video game ending.

If the ending was perfectly fine, would these kids have still gotten all your money?

Your logic is ridiculous. You can't possibly be berating somebody for donating to charity? What does the reason matter?

Im not berating them for donating.
But their reason is a valid point of discussion.
Would that much money have been raise for charity if people were satisfied with the ending?
I think not

And your point is?

[Scoob]

S1at3 wrote...

WildcardCharlie wrote...

S1at3 wrote...

Donate all my money?  You donated every bit of your income to charity?  Now why did it take something you didn't like to get you to donate?  So long as people keep doing stuff you don't want you'll throw money at it to change it? I donate all the time, every year since I've joined the military.  I've never done it to further my own agenda, never done it in the hopes of receiving anything in return and as my tax return would show you, I sure as hell didn't do it for a rebate.

The money would not have been given if not for bad endings.  You denying that is ridiculous.

You're so full of it. You're ripping on people for giving 75k to a good cause because of their reasoning for doing it. That's what is ridiculous. If we wanted to we could have saved our money and just whined, instead we decided to get something positive done.

Meanwhile, all you're doing is sitting on your ass trolling an internet forum to get a rise out of people.

Troll away, it won't change a thing. We're getting what we want, and helping kids while we do it. You can sit on the sidelines and cry about it if that pleases you.

You're the one who got offended when it was pointed out these children would not have any money if people weren't upset about not getting what they wanted.  I voice my opinion, you're threatened by it so you lash out.  I never tried to get a rise out of anyone.   It seems my contributions to other charities over the course of my career don't matter to you since it was not in support of your cause.

Pretty much nobody just gives to charity without an outside factor. The moments people have always given the most to charity is when celebrities promote it or some disaster happens in some poor country, so for us, this is that moment.

You're nothing more than a "hurt" anti-retake person that is mad we are slowly getting what we want WHILE giving to a good cause. Either donate for no good reason yourself right now or stop complaining.

[S1at3]

WildcardCharlie wrote...

S1at3 wrote...

You're the one who got offended when it was pointed out these children would not have any money if people weren't upset about not getting what they wanted.  I voice my opinion, you're threatened by it so you lash out.  I never tried to get a rise out of anyone. 

Here's what you apparently don't get: There was nothing that meant the children had to get the money in the first place. We chose to do that because we realized we had a platform with which we could do a lot of good. It was something people were passionate it about that was getting a lot of attention, so why not use it for tremendous good?

The children got their money. Nothing changes that, no amount negativity from your side of the argument. Try to undermine it all you want.

Retake raised 75k for charity. How much did you anti-retakers raise?

Nothing, cause you were too busy sitting around whining about us giving to charity.

What I don't get is I don't recall a whole lot of whining.  I said it was great the children got money but it was to further someone's goals, yet here you are, offended about that accusation and you turned it around to a personal attack on me and my lack of donations to YOUR cause.  This is the reason some people are pissed off about the retake movement is some members of the movement attack those who don't wholeheartedly support your opinions and goals. 

But hey you're entitled to your opinion and I never said you were wrong.  I assume you'll retort with another personal attack which further defaces your cause so have fun.

[Jeitiiea]

I have been so very proud of 99% of the people involved in the movement, or even those who expressed their unhappiness with the endings. They have been predominantly polite, respectful and constructive in their opinions. They've resisted those who incited them into pointless petty debates, and remained firm and civil in expressing valid, well thought out and entirely reasonable opinions. They held the line.

And as a means of expressing their disappointment with a much-loved game in a positive, and constructive way, they literally put their money where their mouth is. The fact that a charity was chosen as the primary means of protesting is simply fantastic, in my opinion. It is a sign of amazing maturity amongst the fans, that we gathered so strongly behind this brilliant cause, and those kids get all that money as a result.

The very nature of the fans' response to this situation is all the evidence I need to know that the movement has not faltered, and will not falter, until we are certain that Bioware are operating at their best again. I'm even coming to believe this is all an elaborate and innovative new technique on their part, to engage us with the final end of Shepard's story at a previously unseen level.

I have faith in Bioware. But more importantly, I have faith in the fans!

[S1at3]

Scoob wrote...

S1at3 wrote...

WildcardCharlie wrote...

S1at3 wrote...

Donate all my money?  You donated every bit of your income to charity?  Now why did it take something you didn't like to get you to donate?  So long as people keep doing stuff you don't want you'll throw money at it to change it? I donate all the time, every year since I've joined the military.  I've never done it to further my own agenda, never done it in the hopes of receiving anything in return and as my tax return would show you, I sure as hell didn't do it for a rebate.

The money would not have been given if not for bad endings.  You denying that is ridiculous.

You're so full of it. You're ripping on people for giving 75k to a good cause because of their reasoning for doing it. That's what is ridiculous. If we wanted to we could have saved our money and just whined, instead we decided to get something positive done.

Meanwhile, all you're doing is sitting on your ass trolling an internet forum to get a rise out of people.

Troll away, it won't change a thing. We're getting what we want, and helping kids while we do it. You can sit on the sidelines and cry about it if that pleases you.

You're the one who got offended when it was pointed out these children would not have any money if people weren't upset about not getting what they wanted.  I voice my opinion, you're threatened by it so you lash out.  I never tried to get a rise out of anyone.   It seems my contributions to other charities over the course of my career don't matter to you since it was not in support of your cause.

Pretty much nobody just gives to charity without an outside factor. The moments people have always given the most to charity is when celebrities promote it or some disaster happens in some poor country, so for us, this is that moment.

You're nothing more than a "hurt" anti-retake person that is mad we are slowly getting what we want WHILE giving to a good cause. Either donate for no good reason yourself right now or stop complaining.

I'm not hurt, I'm actually ecstatic Bioware agreed to change the endings.  The only thing I ever pointed out is the only reason most people donated was to further their cause which I don't find all that admirable.  Why not thank Bioware?  If the endings didn't suck people would not have donated.  You can't argue that.

[CraftlordDark]

killnoob wrote...

WildcardCharlie wrote...

S1at3 wrote...

WildcardCharlie wrote...

Simpfan wrote...

I find it a little sad that the only reason you raised money for sick kids was because you hated a video game ending.

If the ending was perfectly fine, would these kids have still gotten all your money?

Whereas, you didn't raise money for sick kids at all.

So shut up.

Yet another example of how intolerant and violent some of the individuals in this movement are.  If you like the endings, disagree with their motives, etc you're automatically a dickbag in their eyes.  I agree with you Simpfan.

Actually this is an example of how desperate the anti-Retake people are to paint us in a negative way. You're undermining 75,000 dollars given to charity because you say it wouldn't have been given if not for the bad endings.

Why don't you show us all the right way to do it and donate all of your money to charity right now with no motive? Put your money where your mouth is, or sit down and be quiet.

We gave a bunch of money to charity, doesn't matter why we did it. We did it. Did you?

what? your sacred movement can't be questioned or scrutinised? another example o how intolerant some of the individuals in this movement are. 

This also proves how childish the Anti-Retake people are, we are not a sacred movement, you started the attack, we answer in a very polite way, but you keep the hating,  you should lower some of that steam before posting, we are not here to fight you, and most of us respect your opinion about liking the ending, not everyone is a hardcore fan of the game, some of you are only casual players that find interesting and amazing the game but really dont care about the game lore and plot holes, is just like Legion says: "We say 1 is less than 2, you say 2 is less than 3. Both opinion are correct, but different" Learn to tolerate others opinions, that is the base for human relations.

I think the movement was worth it, at least show Bioware that we are not a bunch of mindless costumer and we have the right to protest if the game is bad or at least the ending for me.
But we need to hold the line until the DLC is released!!

[Beyond Archangel]

even though they said dlc is coming doesn't mean our fight is over yet.

[S1at3]

CraftlordDark wrote...

killnoob wrote...

WildcardCharlie wrote...

S1at3 wrote...

WildcardCharlie wrote...

Simpfan wrote...

I find it a little sad that the only reason you raised money for sick kids was because you hated a video game ending.

If the ending was perfectly fine, would these kids have still gotten all your money?

Whereas, you didn't raise money for sick kids at all.

So shut up.

Yet another example of how intolerant and violent some of the individuals in this movement are.  If you like the endings, disagree with their motives, etc you're automatically a dickbag in their eyes.  I agree with you Simpfan.

Actually this is an example of how desperate the anti-Retake people are to paint us in a negative way. You're undermining 75,000 dollars given to charity because you say it wouldn't have been given if not for the bad endings.

Why don't you show us all the right way to do it and donate all of your money to charity right now with no motive? Put your money where your mouth is, or sit down and be quiet.

We gave a bunch of money to charity, doesn't matter why we did it. We did it. Did you?

what? your sacred movement can't be questioned or scrutinised? another example o how intolerant some of the individuals in this movement are. 

This also proves how childish the Anti-Retake people are, we are not a sacred movement, you started the attack, we answer in a very polite way, but you keep the hating,  you should lower some of that steam before posting, we are not here to fight you, and most of us respect your opinion about liking the ending, not everyone is a hardcore fan of the game, some of you are only casual players that find interesting and amazing the game but really dont care about the game lore and plot holes, is just like Legion says: "We say 1 is less than 2, you say 2 is less than 3. Both opinion are correct, but different" Learn to tolerate others opinions, that is the base for human relations.

I think the movement was worth it, at least show Bioware that we are not a bunch of mindless costumer and we have the right to protest if the game is bad or at least the ending for me.
But we need to hold the line until the DLC is released!!

Not trying to discredit you but the "whereas you didn't raise any money for sick kids, so shut up" post by someone who claims to have donated is where politeness took a turn for the worse man.  I agree some people are completely illogical and fly off the handle with little to no reason.  I was just pointing out I didn't agree with 100% of the movement. 

[Midarc2nd]

Actually, there's a good point here.

Why don't the anti-retake folk band together and start a charity kick in too?

People will benefit, no one will lose out by it.
Can't be a bad thing, right?

Modifié par Midarc2nd, 22 mars 2012 - 01:20 .

[pacientK]

Nothing is ended until this plothole ridden fallacy of ending is no more!
Also:alien:.