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[Blastback]

Maria Caliban wrote...

android654 wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Liara is not gay. If we're going to assign human sexuality to her, she's bisexual. Possibly pansexual.

The vagina is simply the birth canal. Asari give live birth, so it's very likely they have one.

When someone plays with Femshep, she's gay. When they play with Manshep, she's straight. That simple.

I disagree.

1) Liara isn't attracted to people because of their gender. She tells us gender isn't a meaningful concept to her.
2) That implies Liara is a woman. Liara explicitly says she isn't a woman.

*Puts on Sociologist hat*


Might be worth looking at wheter she says sex or gender.  Sex is biological, gender is the social construct we assign.  Need to see the exact wording to figure this out.

*Puts X-Wing Captain hat back on*

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Lenimph wrote...


Gonna have to debate and say that their are many creatures that give live birth and dont have a vagina... *points to her guppies* 

And the reason they don't have one is because they don't have penetrative sex to reproduce, like the Asari.

What do they have?

gestational pouch? I'm not sure of the term for it.....

Modifié par Blood-Lord Thanatos, 22 mars 2012 - 02:50 .

[HenchxNarf]

Blood-Lord Thanatos wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Lenimph wrote...


Gonna have to debate and say that their are many creatures that give live birth and dont have a vagina... *points to her guppies* 

And the reason they don't have one is because they don't have penetrative sex to reproduce, like the Asari.

What do they have?

gestational pouch?

Like a seahorse!?!?

[Lenimph]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Lenimph wrote...


Gonna have to debate and say that their are many creatures that give live birth and dont have a vagina... *points to her guppies* 

And the reason they don't have one is because they don't have penetrative sex to reproduce, like the Asari.

What do they have?

A cloaca 

[Sunnie]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Lenimph wrote...


Gonna have to debate and say that their are many creatures that give live birth and dont have a vagina... *points to her guppies* 

And the reason they don't have one is because they don't have penetrative sex to reproduce, like the Asari.

What do they have?

Big Mama guppy

They have a birth canal for sure, babies just don't magically pop into existence like the space magic that put Shepard's crew on the Normandy in the blink of an eye.
In mamalian species, the birth canal is technically a vagina. Whether Asari call it that or not, it still has at least half of the same functionality as a human. So, I'm going with vagina!

[Sunnie]

Lenimph wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Lenimph wrote...


Gonna have to debate and say that their are many creatures that give live birth and dont have a vagina... *points to her guppies* 

And the reason they don't have one is because they don't have penetrative sex to reproduce, like the Asari.

What do they have?

A cloaca 

You must be confusing Garrus and Thane with Liara...

[Chun Hei]

Wow. A thread complaining about gays and arguing over Asari genitalia. I have not seen THAT before. Not sure how it connected to ME3's ending or the lack of DA2 DLCs though.

Modifié par Chun Hei, 22 mars 2012 - 03:20 .

[Maria Caliban]

Blastback wrote...


Might be worth looking at wheter she says sex or gender.  Sex is biological, gender is the social construct we assign.  Need to see the exact wording to figure this out.

*Puts X-Wing Captain hat back on*

I know the difference between sex and gender. But I can't assume that Liara uses the words to mean the same thing because she says, "My species is mono-gendered. Male and female have no real meaning for us."

She later says, "I am not exactly a woman, lt., my species only has one gender."

Lenimph wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Lenimph wrote...


Gonna have to debate and say that their are many creatures that give live birth and dont have a vagina... *points to her guppies* 

And the reason they don't have one is because they don't have penetrative sex to reproduce, like the Asari.

What do they have?

A cloaca 

Asari are blue space elves. There's no way their babies come out of the same parts as their waste.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 22 mars 2012 - 02:59 .

[HTTP 404]

its always someone elses fault

[slimgrin]

Actually, for once the fan feedback was constructive. It resulted in a hell of a lot of awesome easter eggs and lore humor that only Mass Effect veterans would get. It also resulted in ME1 mechanics making a return in ME3.


Oh, and GSP---------------------------------------> Hughes.

Modifié par slimgrin, 22 mars 2012 - 03:02 .

[Blastback]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Blastback wrote...


Might be worth looking at wheter she says sex or gender.  Sex is biological, gender is the social construct we assign.  Need to see the exact wording to figure this out.

*Puts X-Wing Captain hat back on*

I know the difference between sex and gender. But I can't assume that Liara uses the words to mean the same thing because she says, "My species is mono-gendered. Male and female have no real meaning for us."

She later says, "I am not exactly a woman, lt., my species only has one gender."

And of course we have no way of knowing if she knows the diffrence.. Not enough data...

Didn't mean to imply you didn't know the diffrence.  Just trying to show off something I do know a little about.

I know where Asari babies come from!  they are brought to expectand asari mothers from the orange blue cabbage patch, by loving pyjack foster parents!

Modifié par Blastback, 22 mars 2012 - 03:02 .

[PinkDiamondstl]

Sunnie22 wrote...

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

Can't we just ban this person again? This isn't their first account. Known troll.

I never a troll little girl ..
I just posing my opinon . As I'm allowed to do I believe. 
And if you dissagree with with what I've said then don't read it. But but call me names and stalk me like this . And try to get me banned .

Sorry, but your opinion isn't worth the paper it's printed on. From my point of view, this thread is a blatant troll thread through and through, and yes I have reported it.

In b4 lock!

The people demanding new ending threads are your trolls . I'm just stating a fact. And you are being reported has well as I'm done nothing to you. And you nor that other person is't better than anyone no matter how many games you've played.

Not sure what you are reporting me for, I just said your opinion wasn't worth the paper it was written on.  Are you reporting me for reporting this thread? really?  lol, ok!

You are a troll ...nothing more nothing less.... reported:pinched:

[Link Ashland 614]

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

Link Ashland 614 wrote...

I don't blame the fans, but some (not all) did make it worse: They keep trolling around, insulting others who liked it. Stuff like that.
Luckily, they're about the 90% of the fans that didn't like the ending. I hope

Yes Exactly! Some(not all) did make it worst . Look at DA2 we will never see another  DLC for that game again! And I'm pissed. 

That still hurts for me, since I did like DA2. And with that, I'm outta here before they try to kill me.

[Ryzaki]

*yawns*

Oh look another butthurt entitled fanboy whining about how dare the gays exist in video games.

*yawns again*

Cute for trying to hide your "HOW DARE GAY PEOPLE WANT REPRESENTATION TOO!" theatrics though.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 22 mars 2012 - 03:04 .

[Lenimph]

Hey I'm just saying what my fish have... I just think the Asari would have something similar going on since the concept of penetrative sex doesn't exist in their species...

[PinkDiamondstl]

Chun Hei wrote...

^


Go play somwere else troll

[Lincoln MuaDib]

The fans aren't asking that BioWare give them something that BioWare said they would not get.

The fans are asking that BioWare give them something that BioWare said they WOULD get.

Imagine I sold you a Ferrari. It was nice. I gave you the keys and stated, "I promise you'll love this car, and it will last 30 years." So you're driving down an open highway, your partner handfeeding you chocolate and winking cheekily, you're thinking, hey, life could NOT be better, I'm loving every minute of this! And then . . .

*Bam*! The car's engine expodes! You're sitting in a burning hulk! Your trousers have been blown off, your partner is crying and the chocolates are gone. You crawl to the side of the road and wait for an ambulance.

In hospital, you call me, the car dealer.
“Hello, is this the guy that sold me that Ferrari?” you ask.
“Yes, it is. Drives great, right?”
“It blew up. I’m not happy.”
“Blew up? Yeah, that’s probably because of the bomb I put in the engine.”
“Why would you DO that?”
“Well, things always change in development. What was your favourite part of driving the car?”


Really, if BioWare had said, BEFORE launch, "We must be honest, things changed so the endings you get might be much less choice than you might have expected, however throughout the game you see the effect of earlier choices, feel free to buy or not"- then we'd be fine.

But no. Up to an INCLUDING launch day, they stuck by their statements that "It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings,
where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got
ending A, B, or C....."

Then were surprised at our anger at being lied to.

[Blacklash93]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Dry County wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...
I deal with enough preachy nonsense already.

How was ME3 preachy, exactly?

Political Undertones of ME3:

Nationalism=Bad
Multiculturalism=Good
SS Relationships=Good
World Government=Good
Conflict of Interest=Bad

And I could think of more. If I wanted to.

So the very presence of SS relationships is preaching that they're good? They can't get anything without "pandering" coming into the picture? Please.

I'd kill for the day gays can get anything without such abominable logic rearing its ugly head. Such is the curse of being a minority a plentiful breed of idiots are prejudiced against, I guess.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 22 mars 2012 - 03:14 .

[Lenimph]

Sunnie22 wrote...
They have a birth canal for sure, babies just don't magically pop into existence like the space magic that put Shepard's crew on the Normandy in the blink of an eye.
In mamalian species, the birth canal is technically a vagina. Whether Asari call it that or not, it still has at least half of the same functionality as a human. So, I'm going with vagina!

Last time I checked babies grew inside  the uterus not the "birth canal" 

[Sunnie]

Lenimph wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...
They have a birth canal for sure, babies just don't magically pop into existence like the space magic that put Shepard's crew on the Normandy in the blink of an eye.
In mamalian species, the birth canal is technically a vagina. Whether Asari call it that or not, it still has at least half of the same functionality as a human. So, I'm going with vagina!

Last time I checked babies grew inside  the uterus not the "birth canal" 

Seriously? I've given birth to 3 children, I think I know what is connected to what.

[android654]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Dry County wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...
I deal with enough preachy nonsense already.

How was ME3 preachy, exactly?

Political Undertones of ME3:

Nationalism=Bad
Multiculturalism=Good
SS Relationships=Good
World Government=Good
Conflict of Interest=Bad

And I could think of more. If I wanted to.

Chauvanism of any kind is bad because it breeds in weakness, especially when it's applied to nationalism. This is usually where you get situations like Korea and the Sudan. Those other three things are good, they're results of the progress of the world and inevitable. So, you know, deal with it.

[Suparaddy]

I dun tiggin how this here words n stuff be fo me cuzzin' I be seein' but it be all long n tings.

I beez an idjut?

MATT HUGHES!!

[Lenimph]

Sunnie22 wrote...

Seriously? I've given birth to 3 children, I think I know what is connected to what.

Yesss but children don't need to come out of the birth canal to be born (crude example c section).  The vagina is a necessity for penetrative sex/ fertilzation but not the development of a child like you insinuated. 

If you can name an animal that doesn't have penetrative sex but still has a birth canal/ vagina then I'll agree. 

[K_Tabris]

Sunnie22 wrote...

Lenimph wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Lenimph wrote...


Gonna have to debate and say that their are many creatures that give live birth and dont have a vagina... *points to her guppies* 

And the reason they don't have one is because they don't have penetrative sex to reproduce, like the Asari.

What do they have?

A cloaca 

You must be confusing Garrus and Thane with Liara...

A)  Thane doesn't hava  cloaca (gross).
'
It's possible Asari give birth from their heads, like Zues giving birth to Athena.  


C) Bioware probably won't clarify since they love fans to speculate so much:mellow:

[Blacklash93]

Kaiser_Wilhelm wrote... They focused on appealing to relatively minor groups instead of their general fanbase.

God forbid minor groups get anything without people mindlessly going on about how they were somehow cheated out of significant content or quality. The funny thing is most of those people won't complain about things they're being catered to with that use resources that would better be invested in the overall experience. 

Invested in a particular romance and would defend it's continuation or inclusion? Want to see a VERY particular, niche plot go somewhere? Well, sorry to say but you're part of the problem. Such things use resources that could be used to enhance the game for everyone.

Of course you can blame absolutely everyone by taking this approach, which is why it's not a wise path to take. We should just accept that we have to make sacrifices to enhance others' experience via fanservice to validate and make fair the sacrifices others make for our experience to be enhanced via fanservice.

I guess we all need something to blame. For me, I blame the sub-par talent at Bioware.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 22 mars 2012 - 03:38 .