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[BaladasDemnevanni]

Justin2k wrote...

Even the best of you are acting like spoilt brats.

And there went all your credibility, right out the door. Gotta say, you were doing pretty well up until now.

[HenchxNarf]

Legendaryred wrote...

Fail troll 0/10. Try harder next time.

Fail troll is fail.

[KingKhan03]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

I made this topic in direct response to "This community has been amazing".

I'm sorry if you haven't made death threats to Jessica and Jennifer but members of the community have. Therefore the community hasn't been amazing.

Bragging about raising money for charity which you only raised for the purpose of bragging about changes nothing. None of you truly care about sick children enough to go out and help, you just want your ending changed.

The community isn't fantastic, and some of your behaviour has been disgusting. Even the best of you are acting like spoilt brats.

Again, IA

Does anybody who donates to a charity casually really care? do they sit up at night thinking about it? no it's a nice way to atleast do something constructive while getting your point across and again no matter how the money is raised those kids arent going to complain.

[FataliTensei]

Justin2k wrote...

Hate reading comments like "this community has been fantastic" and "yay we retook mass effect".

I didn't like the ending at all.  I didn't like the auto-dialogue.  I didn't like the multiplayer maps ruining the sidequests and i didn't like the new gay characters taking up more screen time than Ashley.

But I have never come on here and reduced Bioware staff to the point where they are visibly upset and refusing to come on the forums.  I have never tried to insist it is right for Bioware to give money to charity (which i'm sure they do).  I have never sworn at people who are just doing a job.

The crazy thing is, ME3 is a great game.  And you so called "fans" enjoyed 99.9% of 3 whole games.  It's just a video game, there are more important things in life.  What you've done to Jessica Merizan is wrong and you cannot call yourself a great community.  You are nothing more than trolls and spoilt gamers.  It's disgusting some of what you people have said to people who are bending over backwards to appease you and who in the end owe you absolutely nothing.  Get over it.

I  stopped the reading the moment you insulted the gay characters for getting a fair amount of screen time. Go stuff it.

[Desteron]

Frankly I don't think this community sucks especially the people who put in the money for the child's play charity. If anything this speaks to our integrity.

[HenchxNarf]

Desteron wrote...

Frankly I don't think this community sucks especially the people who put in the money for the child's play charity. If anything this speaks to our integrity.

Um. No.

You donated to prove a point, not because of the charity itself.

[Torrible]

trembli0s wrote...

Torrible wrote...

It is not a good community by any means.

While it is not the majority, many people are outright slamming the game with facetious comments like "worst game in the galaxy". People are writing their comedic versions of the ending and laughing at the writers. Memes like Marauder Shields are being thrown around to mock the ending. While not as bad as insults or death threats, it is more disheartening to the devs as it has been very commonplace. And I bet many of you will be saying "they gave us a bad ending, they deserve it."

No, they don't.

Uhhh, welcome to the internet.

This kind of behavior has been commonplace for upwards of a decade now? 

Doesn't make it right though. People claiming to be lifelong fans should stand up and defend the devs/game more without neccessarily relinquishing their stand regarding the ending. Positive reinforcement = more motivation for the devs = better ending dlc (if any)

[DemGeth]

KingKhan03 wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

I made this topic in direct response to "This community has been amazing".

I'm sorry if you haven't made death threats to Jessica and Jennifer but members of the community have. Therefore the community hasn't been amazing.

Bragging about raising money for charity which you only raised for the purpose of bragging about changes nothing. None of you truly care about sick children enough to go out and help, you just want your ending changed.

The community isn't fantastic, and some of your behaviour has been disgusting. Even the best of you are acting like spoilt brats.

Again, IA

Does anybody who donates to a charity casually really care? do they sit up at night thinking about it? no it's a nice way to atleast do something constructive while getting your point across and again no matter how the money is raised those kids arent going to complain.

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Pretty awful post.  yes people that give to charities tend to actually care about it.  Most people research who they give to

[Gedgehog]

I feel genuine empathy for the people at Bioware. They work so hard and deserve our respect. I do feel sorry for them.

[Tom Jolly]

It IS a shame.  I've been trying to pursuad some gaming-friends at work to look into the mass effect series, and they are hesitant to do so, based on all the PISSING and moaning about the endings.  You people have unleashed the Krogan, and you are not going to be able to control it.  

[Neural73]

I disliked the endings so much that i haven't touched the game for more than a week, since i finished it, i donated to Child's Play because i think it's an amazing and simple act of humanity to turn anger and frustration into something fundamentally good and altruistic. To those who use the fallacious reasoning in trying to demonize those who help children simply because they want to turn something bad and consuming into something good, and, let's be honest, attract some good press doing so, i say:

How dare you?

I have the utmost respect and consideration for everyone at Bioware, from the most dedicated employees that have to deal with the outrage and anger from disappointed supporters and fans, to the top level directors and executives, but that will never stop me from chasing my beliefs with civility and moderation, criticizing what i consider was a terrible mistake regarding the endings.
One ultimately must not forget that more than 50000 forum members disliked so much the endings that they stepped out their comfort zone to make their voice count, and i find it amazing that 50000 people so frustrated and angry could keep the debate at a overwhelmingly civilized level, that must mean something, so i cannot accept these desperate attempts to demonize us because we think the Mass Effect franchise deserves a better treatement.

[trembli0s]

Tom Jolly wrote...

It IS a shame.  I've been trying to pursuad some gaming-friends at work to look into the mass effect series, and they are hesitant to do so, based on all the PISSING and moaning about the endings.  You people have unleashed the Krogan, and you are not going to be able to control it.  

Its about time people got pissy and moaned over things. If people had done that earlier I would have been able to avoid the abortion that was the last Indiana Jones movie. 

[Nobrandminda]

 Any community with a large enough population has a few bad apples.

[Oakenshield1]

I have no guilt whatsoever bashing individual BioWare staff. If they were directly responsible for the ending and personally advertised about the ending, they deserved to be called out as individuals.

[jvara]

Justin2k wrote...

Hate reading comments like "this community has been fantastic" and "yay we retook mass effect".

I didn't like the ending at all.  I didn't like the auto-dialogue.  I didn't like the multiplayer maps ruining the sidequests and i didn't like the new gay characters taking up more screen time than Ashley.

But I have never come on here and reduced Bioware staff to the point where they are visibly upset and refusing to come on the forums.  I have never tried to insist it is right for Bioware to give money to charity (which i'm sure they do).  I have never sworn at people who are just doing a job.

The crazy thing is, ME3 is a great game.  And you so called "fans" enjoyed 99.9% of 3 whole games.  It's just a video game, there are more important things in life.  What you've done to Jessica Merizan is wrong and you cannot call yourself a great community.  You are nothing more than trolls and spoilt gamers.  It's disgusting some of what you people have said to people who are bending over backwards to appease you and who in the end owe you absolutely nothing.  Get over it.

You're so absolutely wrong, I'm fed up with moraly superior people coming here to remind us how self entitled we are, why? For demanding a proper product? For asking what we have been promised for our money? For voicing out our discontent with something we have grown to love?. Most people here did not insult anyone, did not harrass anyone, most people here are just demanding what they've paid for, what they've been promised, what Casey Hudson said there would be, what Ray Muzyka said there would be, you know, people at big textile industries mostly do their jobs, nothing more, nothing less, when someone protest for their company exploiting childs in Asia, they don't go agains their staff, but against those whose fault that is. So if it's fine with you that you're pissed on and told it's raining then that's your bussiness, you're a good example of 1990 and ahead way of thought, but as far as I'm concerned, I'm not buying, I have my rights, and I'm exercising, you don't like it, that's your problem, not mine.

So good bye and see you, never again hopefully

[defenestrated]

Oakenshield1 wrote...

I have no guilt whatsoever bashing individual BioWare staff. If they were directly responsible for the ending and personally advertised about the ending, they deserved to be called out as individuals.

Bash the content, not the person.

[KingKhan03]

I love bioware games they made DAO and i loved it what an epic game, then came DA2 wow what a mess but i trusted bioware cause of the mass effect series 1 and 2 what masterpieces i love those games i could play them over and over.... Then Mass Effect 3 was here and it was awesome the scope of it and everything the choices were so great after i finished the game i didn't touch my xbox for a week let alone ME3.

[HenchxNarf]

Oakenshield1 wrote...

I have no guilt whatsoever bashing individual BioWare staff. If they were directly responsible for the ending and personally advertised about the ending, they deserved to be called out as individuals.

Great way to represent humanity there, dude.

[Spatchmo]

Justin2k wrote...

I didn't like the ending at all.  I didn't like the auto-dialogue.  I didn't like the multiplayer maps ruining the sidequests and i didn't like the new gay characters taking up more screen time than Ashley.

You could have just said you didn't like that Ashley has so little screen time if you wanted to be taken seriously, you know. You didn't have to mention the gay characters at all.

[Erield]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Desteron wrote...

Frankly I don't think this community sucks especially the people who put in the money for the child's play charity. If anything this speaks to our integrity.

Um. No.

You donated to prove a point, not because of the charity itself.

Man, Mr. Narf.  I bet every single charity that has ever been formed since the beginning of time began has been glad they didn't have you as the person in charge of Accounts Receivable (or whatever department they call "People Gave Us Money.")  You'd subject the person to the modern-day equivalent of the Spanish Inquisition, making sure that their hearts were pure, free of maliciousness or greed, and on their way to Sainthood.

Point--it doesn't matter why someone does good, just like it doesn't matter why someone does bad.  What matters is what they did.  If I kill my kids, my wife, and then myself so that we can be together in the afterlife, does that make it any less of a horrendous thing?  If I go to a prison, and take up a collection from the inmates to donate money to sick little kids, does it make the action any less good?

Pointing out that a good action is done for selfish reasons is fine; finding fault with the action itself because it was done for selfish reasons is beyond my ability to understand.

[de3ex]

I don't watch Community so I wouldn't know, but I imagine it's a good show. Sure Chevy Chase may be past his prime but he's still got a few good years in him.

[Impulse and Compulse]

It's extreme, yes, and I don't believe in things like death threats to Bioware employees, but they knowingly released a provocative ending and lied about it. Anyone who did that deserves some backlash, gamers have been treated like second-class citizens as of late and Bioware just happens to be the latest, worst example of it.

[KingKhan03]

Erield wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Desteron wrote...

Frankly I don't think this community sucks especially the people who put in the money for the child's play charity. If anything this speaks to our integrity.

Um. No.

You donated to prove a point, not because of the charity itself.

Man, Mr. Narf.  I bet every single charity that has ever been formed since the beginning of time began has been glad they didn't have you as the person in charge of Accounts Receivable (or whatever department they call "People Gave Us Money.")  You'd subject the person to the modern-day equivalent of the Spanish Inquisition, making sure that their hearts were pure, free of maliciousness or greed, and on their way to Sainthood.

Point--it doesn't matter why someone does good, just like it doesn't matter why someone does bad.  What matters is what they did.  If I kill my kids, my wife, and then myself so that we can be together in the afterlife, does that make it any less of a horrendous thing?  If I go to a prison, and take up a collection from the inmates to donate money to sick little kids, does it make the action any less good?

Pointing out that a good action is done for selfish reasons is fine; finding fault with the action itself because it was done for selfish reasons is beyond my ability to understand.

^ So Much Win.

[Alpha revan]

What people fail to realize is... There are people NOT with the group who LIKE the ending making death threats and harassing the people who want the ending changed. There are fanatics and ****s no matter where you look, don't generalize... It makes you seem like a self righteous ignorant ****... Sorry for the profanity.

Modifié par Alpha revan, 22 mars 2012 - 02:43 .

[Elite Midget]

Maybe if Bioware didn't treat their fans as ignorant children and gave places like IGN a pat on the back for trolling said fans than some people wouldn't be lashing out. Sure they're lashing out at the wrong people but when people are angry they don't really think about that. They just see Bioware and they feel that person had played a part in the lies and their mistreatment.

Modifié par Elite Midget, 22 mars 2012 - 02:42 .