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[Paparob]

For this discussion lets just assume Shepard is an adept. So how strong a biotic are they? Kaiden mentions back in ME1 they are stronger than him, but we've seen a few biotics who possible peaker higher than Shepard (Jack, Mornith, Samara) So how exactly does Shepard fall in this scale?

[Skyblade012]

Adept Shepard tries to break a window with a rifle butt rather than biotics. I think her powers have waned over time.

[Red Dust]

S/he's a human..without any special implants, gene tampering or training..so..About as strong biotically as an Asari toddler.

[defenestrated]

Strong for a typical biotic but not as strong as someone like Jack or a highly trained Asari. At least, that was the impression I got.

ETA:

Red Dust wrote...

S/he's a human..without any special
implants, gene tampering or training..so..About as strong biotically as
an Asari toddler.

You have an L3 chip in ME1 and an L5 in ME2 and ME3, don't you?

Modifié par defenestrated, 22 mars 2012 - 02:48 .

[LegendaryBlade]

Shepard is an L3 biotic, according to Kaidan L2's usually spike higher but Shepard is an exception to this.

Shepard is probably a little more powerful than Miranda and co, but less powerful than Jack or Samara. I don't think he'd of been capable of holding the barrier in the collector base.

[Nonoru]

Kaidan is more powerful than Shep.
Jack would be higher than Kaidan in my book.
Samara being one of the most powerful biotic of the galaxy.

Shep is actually one of the weakest biotic among the crew.

[GBGriffin]

Red Dust wrote...

S/he's a human..without any special implants, gene tampering or training..so..About as strong biotically as an Asari toddler.

As curious as I've been to play a biotic Shepard...I just can't come up with a way to justify having biotic powers without implants or something. Is it ever explained how Shep can have them without any of what you listed?


Again, I have never played a biotic, so I don't know the histroy of Shep as a biotic vs a regular soldier.

Modifié par GBGriffin, 22 mars 2012 - 02:48 .

[gmboy902]

As strong as the number of points I put in his talents.

[Simpfan]

Obviously asari are stronger biotics than humans.
And Jack has had all sorts of junk done to her.

Kaidan is an L2, who can spike higher than most L3's, with the exception of Shep, meaning that Shep is a very powerful L3

But then again thats only if Shep is a biotic at all

Modifié par Simpfan, 22 mars 2012 - 02:48 .

[Nonoru]

Nvm.

Modifié par Nonoru, 22 mars 2012 - 02:48 .

[Divitiacus]

I literally beat the game without firing a shot. Clearly my Shep when not in cutscenes is the most powerful in the galaxy.

[Red Dust]

Samara's a matriarch-staged Asari with a life-time of biotics training. I think it's safe to say she's the strongest biotic we have access to at any point in the series.

Then comes Liara. Then Jack, then Miranda. Then Shepard.

[Paparob]

Skyblade012 wrote...

Adept Shepard tries to break a window with a rifle butt rather than biotics. I think her powers have waned over time.

Thats just cinematics, its probably not worth the effort to make two different scenes depending on whether or not Shepard is biotic. Only three classes are biotic but I admit they are probably in the top 5 of played classes.

[Joolazoo]

GBGriffin wrote...

Red Dust wrote...

S/he's a human..without any special implants, gene tampering or training..so..About as strong biotically as an Asari toddler.

As curious as I've been to play a biotic Shepard...I just can't come up with a way to justify having biotic powers without implants or something. Is it ever explained how Shep can have them without any of what you listed?

He does have implants...and it's hinted that you get even stronger implants in ME2. Kaidan clearly says you have L3 implants in ME1 and not L2's because they mess with your brain.

[GBGriffin]

Simpfan wrote...

Obviously asari are stronger biotics than humans.
And Jack has had all sorts of junk done to her.

Kaidan is an L2, who can spike higher than most L3's, with the exception of Shep, meaning that Shep is a very powerful L3

But then again thats only if Shep is a biotic at all

Where does it say that Shep is an L3? Is that mentioned somewhere in one of the 3 campaigns if you choose biotic?

[sistersafetypin]

Red Dust wrote...

S/he's a human..without any special implants, gene tampering or training..so..About as strong biotically as an Asari toddler.

This got a lol.

[GBGriffin]

Joolazoo wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

Red Dust wrote...

S/he's a human..without any special implants, gene tampering or training..so..About as strong biotically as an Asari toddler.

As curious as I've been to play a biotic Shepard...I just can't come up with a way to justify having biotic powers without implants or something. Is it ever explained how Shep can have them without any of what you listed?

He does have implants...and it's hinted that you get even stronger implants in ME2. Kaidan clearly says you have L3 implants in ME1 and not L2's because they mess with your brain.

Okay....again, never having played one in ME1, I honestly had no idea. Thanks for clearing this up!

[Simpfan]

GBGriffin wrote...

Simpfan wrote...

Obviously asari are stronger biotics than humans.
And Jack has had all sorts of junk done to her.

Kaidan is an L2, who can spike higher than most L3's, with the exception of Shep, meaning that Shep is a very powerful L3

But then again thats only if Shep is a biotic at all

Where does it say that Shep is an L3? Is that mentioned somewhere in one of the 3 campaigns if you choose biotic?

When talking to Kaidan in ME1, he says that his powers spike higher than most L3's, with the exception of the Commander, implying that Shep has an L3 implant.

[Nonoru]

GBGriffin wrote...

Simpfan wrote...

Obviously asari are stronger biotics than humans.
And Jack has had all sorts of junk done to her.

Kaidan is an L2, who can spike higher than most L3's, with the exception of Shep, meaning that Shep is a very powerful L3

But then again thats only if Shep is a biotic at all

Where does it say that Shep is an L3? Is that mentioned somewhere in one of the 3 campaigns if you choose biotic?

In ME1.Chakwas mentions it when you ask about Alenko iirc.

[Divitiacus]

Oh, and Liara refers to Shep as an "extremely gifted biotic." I'd place him somewhere on par with Jack, frankly. He's just not crazy so no need to lock him up.

[BadlyBrowned]

GBGriffin wrote...

Simpfan wrote...

Obviously asari are stronger biotics than humans.
And Jack has had all sorts of junk done to her.

Kaidan is an L2, who can spike higher than most L3's, with the exception of Shep, meaning that Shep is a very powerful L3

But then again thats only if Shep is a biotic at all

Where does it say that Shep is an L3? Is that mentioned somewhere in one of the 3 campaigns if you choose biotic?

IIRC, Kaidan mentions it in Mass Effect 1 when you are talking about his headaches. 

[Nobrandminda]

It always bugged me that the story and dialogue almost completely ignores Shepard's class.

Like in the Ardat-Yakshi monastery when Samara goes flying/floating off to chase her daughter I kept yelling at the screen, "FOLLOW HER! YOU CAN DO THAT TOO. F***ING FOLLOW HER!"

[LegendaryBlade]

GBGriffin wrote...

Simpfan wrote...

Obviously asari are stronger biotics than humans.
And Jack has had all sorts of junk done to her.

Kaidan is an L2, who can spike higher than most L3's, with the exception of Shep, meaning that Shep is a very powerful L3

But then again thats only if Shep is a biotic at all

Where does it say that Shep is an L3? Is that mentioned somewhere in one of the 3 campaigns if you choose biotic?

In ME1, almost all Alliance biotics are L3s as I understand it.

[GBGriffin]

Simpfan wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

Simpfan wrote...

Obviously asari are stronger biotics than humans.
And Jack has had all sorts of junk done to her.

Kaidan is an L2, who can spike higher than most L3's, with the exception of Shep, meaning that Shep is a very powerful L3

But then again thats only if Shep is a biotic at all

Where does it say that Shep is an L3? Is that mentioned somewhere in one of the 3 campaigns if you choose biotic?

When talking to Kaidan in ME1, he says that his powers spike higher than most L3's, with the exception of the Commander, implying that Shep has an L3 implant.

Considering that I actively try to avoid Kaidan until I blow him up, I probably missed this regardless of whether or not its mentioned in other playthroughs

[Coolfaec]

Skyblade012 wrote...

Adept Shepard tries to break a window with a rifle butt rather than biotics. I think her powers have waned over time.

This. I laughed hysterically when I saw that.