Lord Aesir wrote...
I can fully understand why one might not be completly satisfied with the endings. I count myself amongst those that where content with them for the most part.
First of all I don't see it as obsessed. Sure its talked about a lot but when the ending ruins the entire game for many people what else is there to talk about? The truth is for a lot of people this ending issue decides if their is any replay value.
For myself I role with the indoctrination theory and I'm still having a lot of fun on my 2nd playthrough. Thats far from obsession I mean the time I'm not on here is doing other things like real life or play other games
What I cannot understand and find frustrating is the sheer hysteria and outrage expressed on these boards towards the endings. I can understand claiming you were mislead by the idea of every choice allowing you to construct your ending. Some of you might have been dissapointed that it translated into the war asset system, but I hardly think claiming bioware knowingly attempted to outright decieve you is merited. Consider also that the level of control you had in the ending of Mass Effect 3 was greater than the previous two games. In Mass Effect we had a single choice between two alternatives, saving or killing the council. In Mass Effect 2 we had a similar choice between destroying or saving the Collector Base. In Mass Effect 3 we had three choices, really, this is a repeat of what Bioware has been doing all along. If choice was your complaint you should have brought it up in Mass Effect.
I hardly call colored explosions more choice than saving or destroying something. For all the good it did Saving the council did give us some amusing dialog in 2 and while it isn't much the end of 2 still felt like our choice were going to matter.
Guess what it all leads to the same exact thing... I mean the Rachni situation is played out EXACTLY the same way wether you saved her or not.
Wether or not they did this on purpose is irrellevent. They failed to deliver on the promise they specifically said the end of the 3rd game would be. Thats false advertising and much of the outrage is pretty much Bioware's fault. I mean they wont even acknowledge the issue giving us non answers in their responses. I feel like my intelligence is being insulted everytime they talk to us.
Top all that with a 3rd part of a massive trilogy we all got invested in with multiple playthroughs of the first 2 games and to be honest I think most people been downright pleasent.
Others complain about the tragic nature of the endings. Really, I would have been more dissapointed by the presence of a happy rainbows and sunshine ending. A magic button that annihilated the Reapers and nothing else would have rendered the Crucible an even worse Deus Ex Machina then it already is. It is the inevitable nature of each ending that makes them work as tragedy and reinforces the idea that the Reapers can't be defeated without sacrifice, which Shepard isn't immune to. A "Happy" ending renders them simple mistakes that could have been avoided.
lets forget about happy vs tragic here.
This isn't Uncharted where the cutscenes play out exactly the same way every time you play it. This is a game series that has been ALL about choices and how their will be consequences to those choices. Like I said the biggest glaring lie is the Rachni thats not even the end of the game.
We want a happy ending
We want tragic endings
We want endings somewhere in the middle
Hell I've asked for one that lets us side with the reapers.
This is the same company that gave us Dragon Age Origins. A game where our choices meant do we sacrafice ourselves or become queen? Do we use the enemy or our best friend?
I'm fine with tragic endings. But where is the closure? The endings we have makes me think winning is no better than losing.
Some complaints focus on the Normandy's portion of the ending. Admittedly, this is the one portion I wish they had done differently, but I really don't think this scene matters very much. The point is that your crew is alive and kicking, having survived the Reaper war and now they can help rebuild.
The point is Joker is fleeing the battle after promising he's sticking it out the end.
Not only that but he somehow was able to fly down and pick up our crew that was with us before we entered the Citadel.
This is especially glaring if you had your L1 with you. Their stranded on a tripicol Island Joker isn't going to be able to procreate with Edi and if your L1 is female? Why does it look like their just fine? This just makes no sense.
Its great they survived but why does this colored energy even hurt the Normandy when its supposed to be taking out the Reapers and the Mass Relays?
Don't even get me started on that.
That brings me to my last point, some have focused off the incorrect assertion that the allied fleet is stranded in Sol and that this will lead to a war over resources. This is simply untrue. First of all, they still have FTL. It may take years, decades for the quarians and geth, but all of them can return home. Their ships will just need expanded fuel reserves and possibly the equipment to refine fuel. No doubt the quarians can help with that, and the crucible brought with it the galaxy's finest engineers. There will be no food shortage. The Reapers focused on population centers, so it stands to reason that most of the Earth's farmland is intact. The quarians have giant agri-ships for this purpose as well and could probably feed both themselves and the turians given that they left the civilians at home. The geth don't need food. The turians would think of something if the quarians aren't there I suppose. The high casualties of the fleet and the reduced population of the earth actually helps in this regard. As for raw materials, they have an entire solar system and lots of wreckage to salvage from, they'll be fine. Actually a scenario I plan on using for a post-ME3 fanfiction is the allied fleet harvesting advanced FTL tech from Reaper corpses (They did cruise in from dark space after all), but that's just a single wild possibility. The point is that they are far from doomed, it's just going to take them awhile to get home.
Thats a lot of guessing. We are forgetting they just survived a massive battle with the Reapers are we not? Even if what you say is true what about this energy that somehow takes out the Normandy but leaves all other ships intact? Is it simply because it was in a Mass Relay jump? Because again I ask why Is Joker running?
Again this goes back to no closure offered whatsoever. We have the energy taking out the Reapers or whatever and the Relays and Joker crash landing.
There is nothing showing us whats going on with the fleet or the survivors. So speculation is all we can go on. And after seeing what the destruction of a Mass Relay can do in Arrival I can't help but think being stranded on Sol is the least of their problems
Also, the galaxy isn't destroyed. The energy of the relays was coopted into the benign (Unless you chose destruction) energy wave of the crucible rather than exploding outward and obliterating star systems, hence why the color of the "Explosions" changed with each ending.
I'm just trying to express why the outrage has me flustered. Offer your two cents at your leisure.
I understand. If I wasn't against the endings and saw everyones reaction I'd think we're all crazy to. But I don't think our displeasure can be over stated. I will say this. You're one of the first people i've seen make this kind of thread and not insult us or call us names and I thank you for that.
Retour en haut
and every ship in the fight went down too 
