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[Zenthar Aseth]

Haha, 23-26 backstab damage? You're doing something very wrong. And you don't have Momentum. Get Momentum

[Matthew Young CT]

Should be doing at least 50 hm. What's the damage on your character screen?



Get momentum ASAP too

[Matthew Young CT]

You didn't mention specs either. Should have the second skill from sin spec, increases damage based on cunning.

[Matthew Young CT]

http://social.biowar...66/index/243304

http://social.biowar...66/index/223777



Must read info.



You don't need deft hands IV for example.

[Matthew Young CT]

hm my lvl 14 rogue has 30/28 and thats after being stupid and somehow spending 250 gold so I don't have Rose's Thorn yet. Does like 50+ backstab dmg. I'll go thru her and see where the damage comes from.

[Matthew Young CT]

Okie dokie.



Attributes: Dex/Cun hybrid is fine. IFF you have the dex hotfix.

Talents: You don't need mastery, you don't use full size weapons. Expert is debatable too. Stuff should be dead before those lacerations matter. You need momentum. It's like +40% attack speed (and therefore damage). Huge. Need second sin talent too obviously.

Gear: +cun, +dmg, +attack. Those daggers are weak. Need at least Thorn of the Dead Gods or Dead Thaig Shanker. Buy The Rose's Thorn ASAP. The Edge is good if you have it.



Runes only in main weapon, they don't work for backstabs in the offhand one.



Remember that a +3 dmg here and a +2 there really add up in this game. Read those mechanics threads!

[nicodeemus327]

I downloaded the deprecated dagger dex fix. Works wonders.

[Matthew Young CT]

No I'm not using the hotfix. Breaks Shale's gear Got uhh 47 dex 48 cun post fade. This char isn't optimized at all heh.

[Ginnerben]

I think your issue is not enough Cunning, pre-Dex fix. I'd have left it at around 30 (+gear) and put everything into Cun.

[Matthew Young CT]

Yeah hybrid is fine with the dex fix (defense is so underrated, and pure cun rogues struggle with attack), but without it it's kinda dodgy. Still you can do fine. Just make sure to concentrate on +cun and +dmg rather than attack, since you'll be fine there with the dex.

[Matthew Young CT]

If you're a pure cun rogue, it's uh...enough to get momentum? I think that's the highest requirement. 24 or so. So you could do 20 base + fade, but that would be fairly brutal until you get there.



If you aren't a pure cun rogue, there's no such thing as enough.

[Loc'n'lol]

50+ dex/cun worked wonders for me.



Another important thing to remember when picking your weapons : the modifiers stack for both weapons. IE : if you have a dagger that has +2 damage and another dagger that has +3 damage, you get +5 on BOTH !

[LtlMac]

Treat your rogue more like a warrior.  Get him/her to 36 DEX and out the rest in strength.   Use Leliana for the really hard locks (your char will still have enough cunning after Magi Tower to open most locks with 4 points in lockpicking).  Max out duel wielding expertise and get momentum ASAP. 

To really start kicking butt equip Topsider and Starfang (or your two best swords).    Add in any backstab assist talents when you can.   YOu should be kicking some serious butt by lvl 14.

Oh, and the Warden Commander Armour seems to work with Rogues just fine.

Modifié par LtlMac, 30 novembre 2009 - 08:32 .

[Matthew Young CT]

Don't use swords. Daggers are objectively superior. Plus you can put that sword on Alistair or whatever.

[Mobisto]

Anzurok wrote...

Yeah according to the DPS guide anyway, a cunning dagger rogue is top dps. I never had any intention to use anything but daggers in this game. In my last game I was a mage and Leliana, I ignored her wasted archery talents and went dual wielding. I capped her Cunning at 26 according to another post I read here about rogues, and put the rest into Str and Dex. She was duel-wielding axes by the end and doing decent damage, but I rarely bothered babysitting my companions in my last game, so I never positioned her for backstabbing. Moral of the story? I completely forget now.

Don't divide your stats points... I think you should aim for a skill selection, and select just the right stats to get all those skills.

After that, pump EVERYTHING into your main damage stats. If you're a cunning rogue, 26 dex should be enough to get momentum, put the rest into cunning. Your base damage will shoot up.

Dex doesn't do a lot of damage but it makes your rogue quite resilient. In a party it doesn't matter much since you shouldn't get aggro a lot; and in tough fights, glyph of warding helps a lot more than dumping dex.


BTW, as main char, a cunning rogue makes a lot of sense. You can save points on lock-picking and coercion. Arrow of slaying and survival/trap are much easier to reach then.

[djo123]

i just completed 2 day ago my first playthrough with a rogue.



here some skill who make wonder:



Lethality mean put every single point u can on cunning after u reach enough dex, i stopped at 40



get the bard specialisation with assasin song of courage help a lot with a high cunning



if u got warden keep tainted blood with the lifegiver ring, available at ozmar i believe on one of the sale guy, can produce really high damage..





and got a t least the first one dual swep for dual item is really helpefull to be able to kill 5 darkspawn in one single swipe.



and after u got that the rose thron is really a great dagger and dea thorn i beleive is the other one. Put decent rune in them and u will just slash through the game like nothing i got stealth very late in the game and i regret it since if u used it properly u could just do serious carnage. but definitly cunning rogue is a good built