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[Malificis]

Few87 wrote...

I dont see why its disturbing, it seems that most of the guys here are obsesing over leliana or morrigan. Just because youre all jealous of alistair

lol i wouldnt go near leliana with a barge pole
most guys here seem to dislike morrigan. interestingly, if morrigan existed she wouldnt be interested in anyone she couldnt get an awful lot of power out of, whereas Alistair would be really really easy (virgin in late twenties, insecure and shy around girls, lolol).

Leliana - just give her shoes.

[Recidiva]

Shaggytbj wrote...

I think its great that the game can have so many "possibly grey endings". Tho ending up being the side dish can be annoying for the female gamers that dig Alistair... But hey it beats my character Aikkan having to run off trying to find morrigan "grrr" but fart me a lullaby i hope my character gets to find her in a expansion an encounter i hope thats influenced depending on the standing you had with her at the end of Origins.

I never thought of being Alistair's bit on the side.  I thought of him as my bit on the side.  I'm the one that persuaded him to do it anyway.  It wasn't his idea.

[Riona45]

Shaggytbj wrote...
Tho ending up being the side dish can be annoying for the female gamers that dig Alistair...

If it comes to that, it's because the PC brought it on herself though (hardened Alistair, made him king against his wishes, asked to be his mistress on the side).

It's not exactly something you get blindsided with.

[RunCDFirst]

Few87 wrote...

I dont see why its disturbing, it seems that most of the guys here are obsesing over leliana or morrigan. Just because youre all jealous of alistair

Alistair doesn't sing.

[Malificis]

girls why dont you like Zavran?

he is awesome.

[Justin2k]

Malificis wrote...
lol i wouldnt go near leliana with a barge pole

:-o How dare you speak ill of the French Sedan? 

[Few87]

XOGHunter246 wrote...

Few87 wrote...

I dont see why its disturbing, it seems that most of the guys here are obsesing over leliana or morrigan. Just because youre all jealous of alistair

lol So you like Alistair?  i gather hehe

Alistair... (swoon and faints) and who said something about mario, hes the ultimate! Who else (apart from maybe alistair) would keep coming to rescue you again and again and again...

[Kohaku]

Taleroth wrote...

Kerridan Kaiba wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

In my exhaustive research of dime romance novel covers, I've come to the conclusion that what women want is the man to not be wearing a shirt while he holds her.  What ending has that?

You and I should check those out together sometime.

*acts nervous*
*fiddles with hands*

I like you.

[Dunhart]

I'd pay another 60 € for a DA where Alistair is the bi-romance guy and Zevran is the straight one. Would make so much more sense!

[syllogi]

Recidiva wrote...

And it's more than that.  I saw somewhere that the writers for Alistair based him in part on Xander in Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Malcolm Reynolds in Firefly.

I see it and they sold it.  The sad part is though...Alistair himself is nowhere near as strong a character as Xander or Malcolm.  They gave him all the charm and funny...they tragically left out the major things that made Xander and Malcolm so compelling.

Putting that bit in his character where Chantry or social dogma overruled his heart is where Alistair was oversold to his audience.

I can forgive that, really.  Seeing how the writers constructed him, and how WELL Steve Valentine sold him, I get it.

Ehh...I am a huge Xander Harris fan, but he was pretty flawed in his relationships (see: Willow, Cordy, Anya...oh wait, that's ALL his relationships with women).  And though Firefly never had a chance to develop the characters like they should have, Mal could be quite the jerk towards Inara, and obviously had something unresolved with Zoe.  They were both pretty slappable, IMO, at certain points. 

If DA:O were an ongoing series that had the time and room to develop characters and relationships the way television shows did, I think that the comparison would be fair, but as it is, it's pretty hard, even in a long, wordy RPG like this one, to convey everything possible about a character.  I think the writers did a pretty good job with what they had.

[Pawlem]

I guess I could guess why some women like him. I wouldn't get mad over this but I guess it's like the same jealousy deal with what some women have with Morrigan.

[Malificis]

Pawlem wrote...

I guess I could guess why some women like him. I wouldn't get mad over this but I guess it's like the same jealousy deal with what some women have with Morrigan.

uh i think  far from it.
i am in all honesty not jealous of alistair.
if i had an option to get his looks but at the cost of also having his personality i wouldnt take it.
if i had to take his lifestyle as well i would run for the hills.

[Recidiva]

Malificis wrote...

girls why dont you like Zavran?
he is awesome.

I do like him.  Just not as much as Alistair.  He's got none of the vulnerability.  Too polished.

[Malificis]

vulnerability? why is helplessness good apart from making him easier?

in comparison to Spanish James Bond With Daggers and Assorted Leather Goods, a good sense of humour which is also REAL, massive confidence and some ambition?

suppose your opinion is more valid than mine doesnt mean i have to like it though ;s



isnt confidence GOOD in a guy?

[sagevallant]

Alistair and I are bros. It's nice to be able to pick the vaguely asinine, prickish-sounding responses and have him turn them around into a laugh-out-loud moment. I'm all about saving the world while trading witty banter with my bro. With Lel and Mor fighting over me the whole time. I think the game could've used another girl to hit on though. And I'd just love to see the results of actual romances among femme pcs & Oghren / Sten.



I weigh in with Leliana over Morrigan, personally. I like good girls who turn out to be naughty >.>

[Taleroth]

Zevran is kind of creepy. All it takes is you being polite to the guy and he talks about staring at you "luridly."



Keep it in your pants.

[Kinaori]

Taleroth wrote...

Zevran is kind of creepy. All it takes is you being polite to the guy and he talks about staring at you "luridly."

Keep it in your pants.

This.  And LOL 

[RunCDFirst]

Taleroth wrote...

Zevran is kind of creepy. All it takes is you being polite to the guy and he talks about staring at you "luridly."
Keep it in your pants.

All it takes is a couple of presents and Morrigan starts complaining about how cold her tent is.
Some people are just easy.

[Kinaori]

Malificis wrote...

vulnerability? why is helplessness good apart from making him easier?
in comparison to Spanish James Bond With Daggers and Assorted Leather Goods, a good sense of humour which is also REAL, massive confidence and some ambition?
suppose your opinion is more valid than mine doesnt mean i have to like it though ;s

isnt confidence GOOD in a guy?

Confidence is one thing, arrogance is another.

[Badpie]

Confidence IS good in a guy. And Zevran does rule.



But Alistair is also confident in certain things. He's confident in battle and he's confident about his role as a Grey Warden. And he knows he's handsome and smart, etc. He's never had any reason to believe he could be a good leader. He's never had the chance to prove that and therefore doesn't want it. So yes, he winges about being king, but he also said he wouldn't shirk his responsibility. He just needs to learn to believe in himself in those areas of leadership. And part of your job if you plan on making him king is to see that in himself.

[Recidiva]

TeenZombie wrote...

Ehh...I am a huge Xander Harris fan, but he was pretty flawed in his relationships (see: Willow, Cordy, Anya...oh wait, that's ALL his relationships with women).  And though Firefly never had a chance to develop the characters like they should have, Mal could be quite the jerk towards Inara, and obviously had something unresolved with Zoe.  They were both pretty slappable, IMO, at certain points. 

If DA:O were an ongoing series that had the time and room to develop characters and relationships the way television shows did, I think that the comparison would be fair, but as it is, it's pretty hard, even in a long, wordy RPG like this one, to convey everything possible about a character.  I think the writers did a pretty good job with what they had.

They got the charm right.  That's for sure.  I just wish there had been more of the "We're doing what's right, no matter what." through the Landsmeet section of things.  It's disappointing to have him unable to stand up for his responsibilities and principles.  I was particularly frustrated at being given the option to talk to him and say "What do you want, Alistair" and have him say "Make Anora queen!" and "No, don't, she betrayed us, make me king!" back to back, giving me no sense of what the character wanted at that moment, and then resent me for either choice.

They did a great job of making him principled and opinionated and then fell through entirely in that critical moment of my decision making process, in order to screw me completely no matter what I did.  I think that's a bad writing choice for an otherwise very well-defined character.  Personal opinion only, I think the social aspect of the game falls to pieces after Landsmeet.  Hard to keep momentum going that had been so powerful up to that moment.  Not unless you just learn the game by rote and pick your responses according to what you know is going to happen.

His whole "hardening" sideline is ridiculous and Landsmeet is a quagmire of "Huh?"

[Riona45]

Zevran's amusing but I don't like him enough to break things off with Alistair. I also lost some approval with him when I mentioned that I didn't gain any kind of satisfaction from killing (sorry, I just don't). I understand why he does, but that doesn't mean I have to.

[The Angry One]

Alistair is the man of choice, because we can't pick Teagan.

[RunCDFirst]

The Angry One wrote...

Alistair is the man of choice, because we can't pick Teagan.

I don't understand the Teagan admiration. He's a bit of a twit.

[sagevallant]

Malificis wrote...

vulnerability? why is helplessness good apart from making him easier?
in comparison to Spanish James Bond With Daggers and Assorted Leather Goods, a good sense of humour which is also REAL, massive confidence and some ambition?
suppose your opinion is more valid than mine doesnt mean i have to like it though ;s

isnt confidence GOOD in a guy?

Women tend to be nurturers more than guys do. They also like to be able to manipulate men into doing what they want. The dislike for Zev probably comes from, well, every greasy, lying, cheating guy that the women have ever met. And there are a lot of those in the world. Which is not to say the female version doesn't exist.

Genuine, sincere people tend to prefer other genuine, sincere people. The Zevs of the world make things difficult and overcomplicated. And, while confidence is good, a healthy sense of humor is what does it for women who don't gravitate to brooding, self-torturing bad boys. Or whiny vampires that sparkle.

Any woman out there feels like I'm wrong, though, enlighten me. I'm speaking from my own experience here.