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[vekkth]

HenryN7 wrote...

 3 is not true. I romanced her and then broke it off before the suicide mission, and she survived in ME3

no, this is confirmed multiple time that if you broke with her at any point she dies. at least for now i will keep it that way since my own research and multiple forum whispers i already recieved since posted this confirms this.

A new, better version of the post is incoming, with various bool ID to edit. Right now we have plot IDs for first meeting and alliance resources meeting. I will post them today since we need some checking still.

[MattFini]

Wow, I didn't know people were having this much trouble saving her, either.

I saved her in my playthrough and she was non-romanced, but loyal.

I talked to her everytime she was available and that was about it.

[pistolols]

Is it even possible for Miranda to die in ME2?? I'm pretty sure i tried several different ways to kill her off with a ****ty playthrough i did of all non-loyals and it never worked. Then there was a thread about it on steam forums and other people said she couldnt be killed as well.

[We Tigers]

The only ways to kill her in ME2 are to take her to the final fight if she's not loyal, or have a hold the line team that is pretty much useless.

I didn't realize that much went into keeping her alive in the third. She was my LI on this first playthrough, so I obviously went to all the meetings with her.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

vekkth wrote...

•  Make her fully loyal in ME2.
•  Make her survive Suicidal Mission (obviously).
•  If you romanced her at any point, do not break up with her.
•  Meet her at the Docs in the Citadel BEFORE Cerebrus attack on the Citadel.
•  Talk to Miranda through Spectre terminal on Citadel, and warn her about Kai Leng (make sure she responds with "I will make myself ready" or something)
•  Meet her on the Citadel later, and when asked for Alliance resources for some operation, give them to her.
•  At the end of the Horizon, use Paragon/Renegade option while talking to her father.

 

This is all I done, never read anything about Kei lang

[Elyiia]

vekkth wrote...

HenryN7 wrote...

 3 is not true. I romanced her and then broke it off before the suicide mission, and she survived in ME3

no, this is confirmed multiple time that if you broke with her at any point she dies. at least for now i will keep it that way since my own research and multiple forum whispers i already recieved since posted this confirms this.

A new, better version of the post is incoming, with various bool ID to edit. Right now we have plot IDs for first meeting and alliance resources meeting. I will post them today since we need some checking still.

This isn't entirely true, if you break up with her during ME2 she will live. If you break up with her in ME3 she will die.

[Nu-Nu]

She doesn't need to be fully loyal, just make sure her loyalty mission is done, but if you lost her loyalty with her arguement with Jack, you can still save her in ME3. I know because this was the Miranda I had on 2nd playthrough.

[vekkth]

Elyiia wrote...

vekkth wrote...

HenryN7 wrote...

 3 is not true. I romanced her and then broke it off before the suicide mission, and she survived in ME3

no, this is confirmed multiple time that if you broke with her at any point she dies. at least for now i will keep it that way since my own research and multiple forum whispers i already recieved since posted this confirms this.

A new, better version of the post is incoming, with various bool ID to edit. Right now we have plot IDs for first meeting and alliance resources meeting. I will post them today since we need some checking still.

This isn't entirely true, if you break up with her during ME2 she will live. If you break up with her in ME3 she will die.

Nu-Nu wrote...

She doesn't need to be fully loyal, just make sure her loyalty mission is done, but if you lost her loyalty with her arguement with Jack, you can still save her in ME3. I know because this was the Miranda I had on 2nd playthrough.

Thank you lots, will update the post.

Modifié par vekkth, 26 mars 2012 - 12:57 .

[Srefanius]

Well I didn't know she can live until now.

Finished only one playtrough where I left her, so that was the cause. Will be interesting how her death scene change in my current one...

Modifié par Srefanius, 26 mars 2012 - 01:03 .

[vekkth]

Updated info on MirandaBreakUp ID, it is from ME2 not ME3 still searching for ME3 IDs.

[frozn89]

You don't need to read any dossier. After talking with Anderson about KL Shepard automatically warns Miranda via the Spectre-terminal whenever you decide to have that talk. Saved her in 3 out of 3 playthroughs as Sheploo and Femshep, as long as you don't miss any meetings with her and she's loyal from ME2, Miranda lives.

And yeah, give her the resources =P

Modifié par frozn89, 26 mars 2012 - 03:55 .

[mupp3tz]

I believe you could actually break up with her in the hotel room... as long as you don't do it the first dialogue (where she cries), she should survive if you do all the other things. You also do not need to read the Kai Leng dossier. My Shepard warned her simply after seeing him during the Citadel attack -- this may be because I didn't break up with her the first convo.


Edit: By "break up" in the hotel room, I mean don't go with the sexual encounter.  Your other LI's should be fine.

Modifié par M U P P 3 T Z, 26 mars 2012 - 03:56 .

[vekkth]

thank you, updated.

[IKingJeremy]

I feel I need to add something here. There seems to be some people that think that all you have to do is visit her 3 times and thats all you have to do to save her. This is NOT the case. I visited her 3 times, had her loyalty mission done in the previous game, was nice to her, complete paragon meter filled; everything. She died in my game because I broke up with her the FIRST time I met her because I was going to get back with Ashley. I romanced Ashley in the first game, but she left and wasnt really around in the 2nd game so I romanced Miranda. Now that they are both back I decided to romance Ashley and didnt think it was right to string Miranda along so I broke up with her the first time I saw her. THIS is what gets her killed because you CANNOT continue a conversation, instead she cries and makes an excuse to leave. You can break up with her later in the hotel room later from what I am told and have her live, but NOT the first time you meet in the docking area. After all the DLC and all the work I have put into these games this is the first person that I have had die that can live with paragon choices and I am highly upset. I want to edit the save if anyone can figure out what the plotid's are that you need to change if you broke up with her early on in the game. I edited my save so that I never romanced her in Mass Effect 2, and edited
20182 True
20183 True
20741 True
22698 True
21872 True
21873 False

Like the previous post suggested but she STILL dies. I edited the save before the mission starts and she still dies. Apparently there is a flag that says that she was broken up with in Mass Effect 3 that needs to be changed in order to let her live, even if you edit the save so that you never got together in the first place in Mass Effect 2. If ANYONE knows what this flag is I will greatly appreciate it.

[Blindspy]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Yes it is possible to safe Thane. And yes its a plot continuation from ME1 - Kirrahe have to survive.

Kirrahe survived in ME1 and I met up with him again on Surkesh, but Thane still died.  Could you elaborate?

Edit: Nevermind, found it on the wiki.  For those interested, you have to save Kirrahe in ME1 *and* not talk to Thane until after Kai Leng tries to assassinate the councilor.  If you do so, Kirrahe stops the assassination instead of Thane, but he also dies in Thane's place.

Modifié par Blindspy, 27 mars 2012 - 04:24 .

[vekkth]

IKingJeremy wrote...

I feel I need to add something here. There seems to be some people that think that all you have to do is visit her 3 times and thats all you have to do to save her. This is NOT the case. I visited her 3 times, had her loyalty mission done in the previous game, was nice to her, complete paragon meter filled; everything. She died in my game because I broke up with her the FIRST time I met her because I was going to get back with Ashley. I romanced Ashley in the first game, but she left and wasnt really around in the 2nd game so I romanced Miranda. Now that they are both back I decided to romance Ashley and didnt think it was right to string Miranda along so I broke up with her the first time I saw her. THIS is what gets her killed because you CANNOT continue a conversation, instead she cries and makes an excuse to leave. You can break up with her later in the hotel room later from what I am told and have her live, but NOT the first time you meet in the docking area. After all the DLC and all the work I have put into these games this is the first person that I have had die that can live with paragon choices and I am highly upset. I want to edit the save if anyone can figure out what the plotid's are that you need to change if you broke up with her early on in the game. I edited my save so that I never romanced her in Mass Effect 2, and edited
20182 True
20183 True
20741 True
22698 True
21872 True
21873 False

Like the previous post suggested but she STILL dies. I edited the save before the mission starts and she still dies. Apparently there is a flag that says that she was broken up with in Mass Effect 3 that needs to be changed in order to let her live, even if you edit the save so that you never got together in the first place in Mass Effect 2. If ANYONE knows what this flag is I will greatly appreciate it.

updated the post with ME3 breakup PlotID.

[I RJay I]

I just played the game. She didn't die on me, didn't take anything special. I didn't go out of my way or anything.

[OMEGAlomaniac]

She can die?

[Corrik Ronis]

So if I save her do is Tali's drunk scene not show up or is it different?

Hold the line.

Modifié par Corrik Ronis, 27 mars 2012 - 12:54 .

[TsaiMeLemoni]

Tali still gets drunk, but I think it's still the same as if Miranda had died.

[Corrik Ronis]

TsaiMeLemoni wrote...

Tali still gets drunk, but I think it's still the same as if Miranda had died.

Thank you, that is good to know. Miranda's life is not worth missing that scene.

[Elyiia]

Blindspy wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Yes it is possible to safe Thane. And yes its a plot continuation from ME1 - Kirrahe have to survive.

Kirrahe survived in ME1 and I met up with him again on Surkesh, but Thane still died.  Could you elaborate?

Edit: Nevermind, found it on the wiki.  For those interested, you have to save Kirrahe in ME1 *and* not talk to Thane until after Kai Leng tries to assassinate the councilor.  If you do so, Kirrahe stops the assassination instead of Thane, but he also dies in Thane's place.

Honestly, allowing Thane to die is a much better option. Kirrahe isn't
suffering from a fatal disease and it allows Thane to go out as a hero.

How can people break up with Miranda? I couldn't stand the tears

[shadey]

she can die also if you romance her but don't give her the intel.

pretty sad to watch 

www.youtube.com/watch 

[IKingJeremy]

I am actually a little ashamed to admit that I spent 6 or 7 hours trying to save Miranda to no avail. I spent a few hours looking up online for save edit information, and then a few hours in game starting over to compare save data in gibbeds but cant see what bool is different. No one seems to know what line needs to be changed, and few people seem to care because they think its easy to save Miranda saying things like, "Wow you people must suck, I didn't even know she could die; lol". Well if you romanced Ashley in ME1 and then when she left you you romanced Miranda in ME2, and you decided to romance Ashley again in ME3 because she is in the game more so you break up with Miranda because you think its wrong to romance 2 people and string them along with no intention to advance the relationship then SHE DIES. NO WAY to save her if you break up with her the first time you see her in the loading docks of the citadel, and THE ONLY WAY you can know that is if you read a walkthrough while you are playing the game and that takes away a lot of the fun of playing the game. Out of all 3 games and DLC Miranda is the ONLY person that can be saved that has died in my game that can be saved with paragon choices. (For example, Mordin Solus can be saved in 3 but you would have had to do a lot of Renegade crap to save him). I have stopped playing the game and plan not to start again until their is a save edit option to save Miranda. I dont want to start from the beginning because I have put about 50 hours into the game exploring and collecting every single thing I could find. This is extremely annoying. Does ANYONE know how to edit the save file to not break up with Miranda on the citadel to save her life? Thanks in advance if you can help.

[Fogg]

vekkth wrote...

again, you have to meet her all 3 times on Citadel, 2 in person 1 via specter terminal. If you doubt this (and miss the first meeting) you will end up with save editor lurking for plot bool ids for that first meeting, as i did

save editor? where?