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[Wayning_Star]

I saved Miranda!! I save everyone and everything, if possible.

[Qu1stisTrepe]

M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

I believe you could actually break up with her in the hotel room... as long as you don't do it the first dialogue (where she cries), she should survive if you do all the other things. You also do not need to read the Kai Leng dossier. My Shepard warned her simply after seeing him during the Citadel attack -- this may be because I didn't break up with her the first convo.


Edit: By "break up" in the hotel room, I mean don't go with the sexual encounter.  Your other LI's should be fine.

This would seem to be correct. I did break things off with her in the first meeting while doing all of the other things you're supposed to do including warning her of Kai Leng and she still died.

[Nitrocuban]

I can totally confirm this.
Do not make her cry and everything is fine :3
I´m not sure if this is intended or a bug, but it works.

[Qu1stisTrepe]

Nitrocuban wrote...

I can totally confirm this.
Do not make her cry and everything is fine :3
I´m not sure if this is intended or a bug, but it works.

Not sure if using the save editor to save Miranda will affect my romance with Ashley but this would be unlikely given that I've already gotten the paramour achievement.

EDIT: Nevermind, Miranda was no where to be found on the Normandy after Horizon but she does show up in war assets. I guess the edit worked as intended then.

Modifié par Qu1stisTrepe, 13 octobre 2012 - 03:00 .

[Draidle]

Has anybody found the bool codes for warning her about Kai Leng at the Spectre Terminal? That's the one thing I missed, despite talking to her. I must not have been paying attention and missed the dialogue option...

Edit: Oh apparently I did warn her. Stupid EDI saying she wouldn't know about Kai Leng when I watched the video.

Modifié par Draidle, 07 décembre 2012 - 06:52 .

[Dirgewhisper]

So far, none of this has worked. The only thing that was amiss when I checked in the save editor was that 21872 was set to False for some reason when I swear I sent her the Alliance funding. Regardless, I changed the value and tried it. She still dies. I have checked the flags regarding ME2 activities and they are all fine. No, I never romanced her previously.

I even edited the ChapterSave for Horizon and saved it as a new save in the editor and played through the entire mission again. She still dies.

There must still be something else that dictates this action or it is something that the game sets previously and when you go past a certain point, it cannot be changed.

I am continuing to try to get it to work, however, I have done everything in this thread and she still dies. I have watched a YouTube video of the complete mission where she lives in the end, and there is no way to know before you get to the end if she will die or not.

[teninchnails]

I suspect the whole issue is about not playing ME2. Some friends of mine that have also played the trilogy and kept their saved games didn't even know she could die.

[Dirgewhisper]

teninchnails wrote...

I suspect the whole issue is about not playing ME2. Some friends of mine that have also played the trilogy and kept their saved games didn't even know she could die.

No, I imported an ME2 save game, so I still do not understand what is wrong.

[teninchnails]

Hmmm interesting, that narrows the problem a bit more. Thx!

[Boydsan]

okay. After a few months off, i got the Omega DLC and the leviathan DLC. I decided to play Mass Effect again. My two previous attempts all had Miranda dying. She is the only crew member I can not figure out how to keep alive.

Originally, I went mostly Paragon in Mass Effect 1, saved Ashely (she was my LI) and Wrex.

In Mass Effect 2 I went Paragon and never romanced Miranda - and kept Ashley as my only LI. I kept Miranda loyal. When I did the Jack loyality quest, i chose the paragon option - to keep both of them loyal. I did her loyality mission as well, and she met her sister. We desroyed the collectors base and I did a Mass Effect 3 play thru (this was before Omega and Leviathan DLC) as a mostly paragon player and she died. She was a squad member in the suicide mission on the collectors base, FYI. I met Miranda all three times, gave her access to the alliance information and warned her about Kai Leng. Yet no matter which option i picked (I saved right before the end and I chose every option including the interupt) - Miranda dies in ME 3.

Second time, I used the same Mass Effect 1 play thru and in Mass Effect 2 I decided to go mostly renegade. I did the Miranda Loyality mission and she did not meet her sister at the end. After Jack's LI i went the renegade option to keep both Jack and Miranda loyal. Likewise, the illusiveman and Cerberus kept the collectors base and i used Miranda as a squad member on all the suicide missions in ME 2. When I played ME 3, I went mostly Paragon (this was before Omega and Leviathan DLC). I met Miranda all three times, gave her access to the alliance information and warned her about Kai Leng. Yet no matter which option i picked (I saved right before the end and I chose every option including the interupt) - Miranda dies in ME 3. In this play thru, I romanced Ashley in ME 1, then romanced Miranda in ME 2 - did not romance anyone on ME 3.

After reading the forums some people suggested to have the following information set (using the GIBBED ME3 editor...)

bool 20182 is set to True
bool 20183 is set to True
bool 20741 is set to True
bool 22698 is set to True
bool 20184 is set to True
bool 21085 is set to True
bool 22700 is set to True
bool 21872 is set to True
bool 21873 is set to False
int 10491 is set to 1
bool 21751 is set to False

with all the above flags... I tried all the conversations and tried with and without the interupt she dies.

I decided to let it go... and let ME 3 collect dust. After the Leviathian DLC and OMEGA DLC I decided to play ME 3 again. This time I decided to play the game from ME 1. I start a whole new Mass Effect game. I did allot of things I never did before. I let Ashley die, and killed off Wrex. I even killed the Batarian leader and let several colonist die in ME1. I was a mostly renegade in ME 1. I romanced Liara in ME 1.

On my Mass Effect 2 play thru, I was mostly renegade. I did not romance Miranda, I kept Liara - but I decided to get very friendly with Kelly and she even danced for me! I destroyed the collector's base and did Miranda's LI mission and she met her sister at the end of it. I also chose the renegade option after Jack's Loyality mission where Jack and Miranda fight - to keep them both loyal. During the suicide mission, i let Miranda be the alternate squad leader and never used her as my own squad member during the Suicide mission.

During Mass Effect 3, I decided to keep it mostly renegade. Did the Leviathian and Omega DLC and also met Miranda three times, warned her about Kai Leng, and gave her access to alliance intel. Yet again. she dies ... I chose every possible option combinition and did it with and without the renegade interupt - on Horizon and she still dies...

I use the gibbed editor and look at the save right before the meeting and, as before, all the above information is set.

ANY IDEA why she is dying?

[d4eaming]

Lol... Um, my infiltrator got her killed. And only her. And she isn't upset about it.

Miranda has heavy plot armor, isn't it more difficult to get her killed?

[Boydsan]

My only theory is that there is some quest or dialogue option that has to be done a specific way in Mass Effect 1 and/or 2 that do not seem related that is effecting Miranda's life.

I just cheated and used the Gibbed editor to..
id: 20278, name: "Miranda - killed"},BOOL NO

To pretend the game let me save her, and move on. But, I did this play thru to save all the crew and people I could (I killed Wrex to let Mordin live - plus I never had Wrex and/or Ashley) die on me before, so it was nice to see them die for a change). It just @*&# me that I can not get Miranda to live, after three play thrus and this last one was completely different than my other two... as much as I could make it.

Modifié par Boydsan, 11 janvier 2013 - 06:42 .

[vekkth]

Hello everyone, i am sorry i wasnt around for quite a while, i am planning to playthrough whole trilogy soon this time romancing Miranda, i will try to find some new clues in the process.

[zapfacid]

Thank you much! I felt exactly how you did and found your post in the other thread about how you want to change it with a save editor and thought it was funny how I came across this post with the answer to both of our problems <3:happy:

[Smokin SHadowz]

It's like saving Kelly Chambers in Mass Effect 2 on the collector base. You have to go immediately or regardless of what you did she will also die...

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Honestly I find it harder not to save her, I would have to go out of my way to get her killed.

[Ieldra]

DinoSteve wrote...
Honestly I find it harder not to save her, I would have to go out of my way to get her killed.

If you're a completionist and don't romance her, it's easy, indeed. The guide is more for people who don't go back to the Citadel after finishing every major location to see if there are new people to talk to.

The only real pitfall is if you romanced her in ME2 and don't want to continue. In that case, you need to go with an implicit breakup: confirm the romance and then go on to romance someone else. You'll be something of a dick, but the romance will be quietly disabled without setting the "kill" flag. 

[AveryLuna]

I pretty much tried everything, integers and boon are all how it should be, what's going on?

[elrofrost]

Skullheart wrote...

billida wrote...

does she have to die in the canon version if i do not import a save ?

Yes.

Actually, BW really wanted her dead. I liked her ME2, but she'sa worthless character in ME3, she's better dead.

Many of the chars from ME2 are worthless in ME3. Only Mordin, and Legion (oh Thane does too I supposed. But You can complete that chapter even without Thane) play roles that are major. With so many chars from ME2 I wonder why Bioware felt they had to add James and Steve. I mean, sure, if you lost people in ME2 (which I lost 4 crew in my first playthough). But if everyone lives though the suicide run in ME2 why bring on more crew?

I was also upset that some of my favoriate chars in the whole series barley got any face time in ME3; like Jack and Samara.

And EDI. Ok why did Bioware add a fembot? Not like I lacked for any eye candy. And to give EDI (the fembot) so much  face time? It kind-of dumbed down the game for me. Unless they did it to give Joker a LI? To give him an eding? But if so, then choosing Destory (as the ending) would do her in (and the Geth).

I guess none of this matters anyway. The series is over and that's that. 

As for saving Miranda I never lost her. Even my first play-though, where I lost Jack, Tali, Jacob, and Legion (and Wrex in ME1) I still manged to save Miranda in ME3. I just read my mail and meet her in the Citadel.

PS: The Citadel DLC does fix this for me a bit. I like the DLC over-all. It was a nice good bye. Very sad though, at the end. I don't want to say goodbye to Shepard and company. Like losing friends. But I suppose ti's time to move on. Especially when a new game takes my passions.

Modifié par elrofrost, 23 juin 2013 - 05:37 .

[KzerZa]

I tried all the flags mentioned in the posts above, but it didn't work.

 

Almost gave up, but then I came across this and she didn't die finally: http://gaming.stacke...-in-save-edtior

 

SET

id: 5209, name: "Romanced Miranda",BOOL YES

id: 3304, name: "Broke Up with Miranda",BOOL NO

INT: 266, name: "Romance state with Miranda",INT 5 (so 266, then in the next box 5)

id: 177, name: "Miranda is loyal",BOOL YES

id: 33, name: "Miranda acquired",BOOL YES

id: 195, name: "Miranda is dead",BOOL NO

id: 21750, name: "Miranda - romanced",BOOL YES

id: 20184, name: "Miranda - warned",BOOL YES

id: 20278, name: "Miranda - killed"},BOOL NO

Also set 19731 to True

[Rujopetteri]

While this is a rather old thread i wanted to chime in as i had some trouble keeping Miranda alive on my latest playthrough but eventually found the solution.

 

I did everything right (met with her three times, warned about Kai Leng and gave her the resources) but Miranda still died in Horizon.

 

I started the game without ME2 import because I wanted to use the Genesis 2 cartoon. I also finetuned some options that weren't available in the cartoon with gibbed's editor. So my starting point was that Miranda survived ME2, was loyal and I didn't romance her because... well... FemShep. OK, this situation has worked on my previous playthroughs with imported ME2 or even ME1 characters.

 

So i wen't through all the variables listed in this thread (and a few others around the web) and found that on my save all the variables already matched the ones listed here except for the romance ones and the integer 10491. The integer didn't affect in any way though. On my original save the value was 4 and i changed it to 1 without any effect to the outcome.

 

After fiddling around with the gibbed editor i found a couple of interesting variables under "raw -> plot -> known variables."

 

Is ME2 Import

Is ME1 Import

 

I set the "Is ME2 import" to "True" and that did the trick. After that Miranda lived through the confrontation with Kai Leng and his father. So hopefully this helps others struggling to keep Miranda alive with a new game started with the Genesis 2 cartoon.

[themikefest]

I did everything right (met with her three times, warned about Kai Leng and gave her the resources) but Miranda still died in Horizon.

I'm sure you know if Miranda isn't loyal she will always die in ME3.

 

Even doing the above she can still die even if she's loyal. The player has to choose the blue or red dialogue choice, and if the player doesn't, has to use the interrupt. If the player chooses the dialogue on the right and ignores the interrupt, Miranda will be shot in the stomach leading to a very quick death. She will not be able to mention she placed a tracer on Kai Leng

[Rujopetteri]

I'm sure you know if Miranda isn't loyal she will always die in ME3.

 

Even doing the above she can still die even if she's loyal. The player has to choose the blue or red dialogue choice, and if the player doesn't, has to use the interrupt. If the player chooses the dialogue on the right and ignores the interrupt, Miranda will be shot in the stomach leading to a very quick death. She will not be able to mention she placed a tracer on Kai Leng

 

Yup. I think this was my 8th playthrough. And the first one where Miranda died, no matter what i did. Also the first one without import from either ME1 or ME2. And like i said in the previous post, she was loyal. That's why i found it so odd that she kept dying while on previous playthrough I never had any problems. Anyways checking that "Is ME2 import" fixed it for me without altering anything else.

[Excella Gionne]

I'm sure you know if Miranda isn't loyal she will always die in ME3.

 

Even doing the above she can still die even if she's loyal. The player has to choose the blue or red dialogue choice, and if the player doesn't, has to use the interrupt. If the player chooses the dialogue on the right and ignores the interrupt, Miranda will be shot in the stomach leading to a very quick death. She will not be able to mention she placed a tracer on Kai Leng

Miranda wasn't loyal for me on my first import to ME3, because I chose to side with Jack. However, she still lived in the end. I still think breaking up with her resolves in her getting killed was stupid and lazily done.

[themikefest]

Miranda wasn't loyal for me on my first import to ME3, because I chose to side with Jack. However, she still lived in the end. I still think breaking up with her resolves in her getting killed was stupid and lazily done.

Are you talking about the suicide mission?

 

The only way for Miranda to survive Sanctuary is if she's loyal and all the other requirements are met.