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Dragon Age: The Calling Discussion thread - (*SPOILERS*)


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#101
Danzalthar

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Just finished reading both books and must say I enjoyed them both very much! Excellent work Mr. Gaider!!




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IgotTheMeat wrote...

Alistair being Maric's kid? I don't think the Grey Wardens treat recruiting as an honor. What i took from the book is that upon becoming a Grey Warden the clock starts ticking. It is basically a death sentence. Now if you were Duncan and told to look after the king's kid, would it be a good idea to sentence him to death? No. Becoming a Grey Warden is a solemn and serious thing. It has implications. Therefore Alistair is not Maric's son.

Don't be so sure of that.  Everything more or less fits, and I wouldn't put it past Bioware to pull something like having Alistair be Maric's son on us.

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If Alistair is Maric's I WILL be pretty peeved, however I'm wondering if Fiona's resistance to the taint would be passed on to her child....

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Sorry, but I have no idea how search on this forum works, so I ask again if this was asked before.



When you upload your character, Bioware said they will give you that Ring which gives +1 to your stats. Anyone know how we are going to get this?

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It's a code that you enter...not sure how it's distributed in game..probably an NPC or shop.
Unfortuntely most people never got an email..like me.

(Why did you post your question under the Book topic?)

Modifié par NewYears1978, 20 octobre 2009 - 05:30 .


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I've ordered Stolen Throne off amazon.co.uk but The Calling isn't on there, it's on Amazon.com though. How come we can't get it yet in the UK?

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Fodder007 wrote:

I've ordered Stolen Throne off amazon.co.uk but The Calling isn't on there, it's on Amazon.com though. How come we can't get it yet in the UK?


http://www.amazon.co...56071256&sr=8-1

It's there, but someone in another thread said he got the last one.  There are a couple used ones availible.

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I've seen that but its not amazon selling it, its other sellers using the amazon site. If amazon were sellling it and someone had the last it would say out of stock. How come a major uk retailer isnt selling it?

edit: infact, I've just checked and those other sellers are shipping from the US or Canada. When will the book released in the UK?

Modifié par Fodder007, 20 octobre 2009 - 09:09 .


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Fodder007 wrote...

I've seen that but its not amazon selling it, its other sellers using the amazon site. If amazon were sellling it and someone had the last it would say out of stock. How come a major uk retailer isnt selling it?

edit: infact, I've just checked and those other sellers are shipping from the US or Canada. When will the book released in the UK?

That is really odd...

I got in through Amazon UK a week back.  I pre-rodered it...

Order Date: 26 Sep 2009
Order #: _____
Recipient: ____
Items:
1 of: The Calling (Dragon Age)
Sold by: Amazon EU S.a.r.L.

It was dispatched on 12 Oct 2009

I guess they have run out...  Maybe they only bought enough to cover the pre-orders...

Modifié par Bob the Insane, 21 octobre 2009 - 01:42 .


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Sarevok Anchev

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Well, i have read MANY Fantasy books (surely not the only one ;), but this was really well written.

And i liked the combat description. When you have read too much R.A.Salvatore you need some more details in the fights *g



But i have a MAJOR logic-question:

On the pages 235-236 when the group stands before the collapsed floor in one of the tunnels, they used "a narrow ledge at its (wall sides) foots just barely wide enough to walk along".

Can someone explain to me, how did they get Hafter(the dog) over there???

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Kell picked him up, thats atleast how I would imagine. Nitpicking?

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Sarevok Anchev

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This is no Chihuahua. Its a BIG dog, maybe even a Mabari wardog race.

About 40-60 kilogramm living meat.

And now you try to glide along a wall on a footcase with just enough space to stand, when you are pressed against the wall, so that you wont fall AND having such a living back pack on your shoulders.

I had a 40 kg shepherd dog and when he was injured i tried to carry him. It is difficult enough to heave him up and hold in front of you against your chest, not talking about having him for minutes on your shoulders :)

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Sarevok Anchev wrote...

This is no Chihuahua. Its a BIG dog, maybe even a Mabari wardog race.
About 40-60 kilogramm living meat.
And now you try to glide along a wall on a footcase with just enough space to stand, when you are pressed against the wall, so that you wont fall AND having such a living back pack on your shoulders.
I had a 40 kg shepherd dog and when he was injured i tried to carry him. It is difficult enough to heave him up and hold in front of you against your chest, not talking about having him for minutes on your shoulders :)

Maybe they made a pulley system, tied him to a harness and pulled him across. =]

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Bob the Insane

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IronFoe wrote...

Sarevok Anchev wrote...

This is no Chihuahua. Its a BIG dog, maybe even a Mabari wardog race.
About 40-60 kilogramm living meat.
And now you try to glide along a wall on a footcase with just enough space to stand, when you are pressed against the wall, so that you wont fall AND having such a living back pack on your shoulders.
I had a 40 kg shepherd dog and when he was injured i tried to carry him. It is difficult enough to heave him up and hold in front of you against your chest, not talking about having him for minutes on your shoulders :)

Maybe they made a pulley system, tied him to a harness and pulled him across. =]


Yeah, I can see why they would do that when they had a mage... Image IPB

Modifié par Bob the Insane, 21 octobre 2009 - 11:18 .


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Finished now too.. well, i compliment Mr. Gaider once again to bring things to a meaningful ending.

The love story between Maric and Fiona seemed mainly pointless to me, but with the child it suddenly got more interesting.



Alas i was a bit disheartend to read that the normal Grey Warden has written death all over him. That´s not really encouraging me, that my characters will finish this game living.. which takes much of the thrill out of it.

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Since when is the PC ever a "normal" anything?

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Someone PM me all the little spoilers so i don't have to read the book.Please.

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Nekator wrote...

Alas i was a bit disheartend to read that the normal Grey Warden has written death all over him. That´s not really encouraging me, that my characters will finish this game living.. which takes much of the thrill out of it.

I don't understand what you mean? It's not really sure if anyone's going to die or not or the PC as a grey warden will die early or live on for many years. Fiona mysteriously got rid of the taint it's entirely possible Duncan has been leading investigations of a sort since then and trying to figure out why, at least someone's ought to have been looking into it.. Maybe there's a cure? At least that seemed to be the point of Fiona's character, it might be that her son is strangely immune to the blight too as pointed out.

:o   ;)


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Eshaye wrote...

Nekator wrote...

Alas i was a bit disheartend to read that the normal Grey Warden has written death all over him. That´s not really encouraging me, that my characters will finish this game living.. which takes much of the thrill out of it.

I don't understand what you mean? It's not really sure if anyone's going to die or not or the PC as a grey warden will die early or live on for many years. Fiona mysteriously got rid of the taint it's entirely possible Duncan has been leading investigations of a sort since then and trying to figure out why, at least someone's ought to have been looking into it.. Maybe there's a cure? At least that seemed to be the point of Fiona's character, it might be that her son is strangely immune to the blight too as pointed out.

:o   ;)


Sure, Fiona and maybe her son are an exception. But it isn´t realistic that they become standard until the PC becomes a Grey Warden. And life of a Warden like it´s described in the Calling seemed to me rather .. unhappy (e.g. Genevives husband to be, who thanks Duncan for killing him), with not much chances of how it will end.

That´s not a critic, but the impression i got, during reading. So for me, a happy ending, or even something like becoming royality etc. seems rather unrealistic.

What i´ve forgotten, the character of the architect was very good, since it gives the Blight some more personality beside hordes of unintelligent monsters. It´s good that he got away.

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I don;t think we can base the lives of all Grey Warden's on Genevive's (self imposed) tragedies...

One thing it has not made clear is whether there is a "French Legion" effect... Wiping the slate clean if you like if you have no other option...

It is stated that they are not under anyone else's authority, they do not answer to any nation ot King. That could be a powerful motivation for joining.

Mind you, you talk about despairing the inevitable fate of Grey Wardens but what about the Joining? Most do not survive... How desperate do you have to be to join??

However again look at Genevive who wanted to join more than anything else. A total volunteer...

Of course if there is any "reality" to this dark fantasy world then death is a common place event. Life spans for the common man are short and natural causes is pretty rare...

Modifié par Bob the Insane, 22 octobre 2009 - 10:59 .


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Yes and who is happy in Thedas anyway? Maybe a few families in Ferelden but otherwise seems like most characters are depressed for a reason or another. Being royalty sucks, unless you're a greedy tool, being an elf is drag as you're worse off then the lowest of the humans, dwarves may have it slightly better but their society seems rather unforgiving... Mages are repressed opportunists.



Really the place is all about strife, for some becoming a Grey Warden is better then whatever other fate awaited them. I think that's the point, drinking your own death and having the chance to at least die with meaning, or live a short life but do a lot with it, like Alistair seems to think being a Warden will allow him to actually do good things in life however cut short it might be.


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Okay well anyway I just finished the Calling - I have to say - fantastic!! Both the Stolen Throne and the Calling have been amazing... in fact I had to get up off my seat on the train and stand by the door so people didnt see me getting teary eyed during the whole Kell and Hafter scene towards the end of the book. David Gaider has done it twice now - first time in Stolen Throne with the infamous Katriel scene making me sick to the bone while sitting there and then this.

You better not stop writing Mr Gaider - you are too good to stop here!!

After Calling now I can say that not only will I be meeting THE great Loghain but also the 'Duncan'...

Ive never been so excited to start playing a rpg when Im already so close to the characters. Fantastic! Although Calling has put me in a predicament. My party was going to be me, Leliana, Morrigan and Alistair... but now I surely need Dog!!!! Am i going to have to bump Leliana?! Hmm! But I intend to play a Kell like stealthy character so I need Dog now! :)

P.S The Calling had some fantastic battle moments that would have looked perfect on the silver screen.  Hoards of dark spawn vs the slowly dwindling group! Felt like some sort twisted but terribly cool fantasy 'Aliens' scenes to me :)

Modifié par Viz79, 22 octobre 2009 - 07:23 .


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P. S I seriously don't think Alistair is the child. Duncan would never let him become a Grey Warden - there is no way that Fiona would want that. Sorry but being a 'grey Warden' is NOT a good life, far from it.  He was a templar and Duncan saves him from that.  To become a Grey warden - makes absolutely no sense.  Even if he 'was' resistant to the blight, they still wouldnt place him in that dangerous situation.  Fiona wanted him to have the life she never had.  And that would never change.

Modifié par Viz79, 22 octobre 2009 - 07:32 .


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Er ... is anyone else missing the whole page 6 from this thread?

Edit: Never mind. Now the thread only shows as 5 pages long when it was 7 before. Maybe my browser is as tired as I feel. *wanders off*

Modifié par Korva, 22 octobre 2009 - 10:32 .


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I read the first chapter of The Stolen Throne last night and thought it was brilliant. Really descriptive and set the scene well. I had really vivid pictures of the scene in my head and as Maric held his breath, I held mine! From one chapter I can tell this is going to be a great story. Looking forward to continuing with it over the weekend.