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[Amagoi]

Yeah the plotlines in Calling bothered me a lot in DAO, I was expecting to run into Utha and the Architect eventually but nope. Perhaps they were the ones who started the Blight using Bergan's knowledge, maybe not.I just wish it would had tied into the books better.



Maybe an add-on or sequel will answer all the questions we have from this last one, or maybe it's all just fluff resolved in other books that won't be answered in the games.

[johnknee777]

I didn't realize there was a first book. -1 geek cred.

[szathmab]

i really think that Alistair's mother is Fiona because if it was found out that Alistar is half elf there would be a real problem with him taking the throne being half elf and all. so they just covered it up with a nice white lie and disposed of the body...

[nisallik]

Yeah, I imagine they didn't tell Alistair the whole truth concerning his heritage. About his sister, I'm sure she has no relation to Alistair at all and I assume that she was actually the servant's daughter that was supposedly Alistair's mother. If she was truly Maric's daughter, she would of been well looked after. I'm curious if Alistair is also immune to the taint just like his real mother.

Modifié par nisallik, 18 novembre 2009 - 08:27 .

[nisallik]

Amagoi wrote...

Yeah the plotlines in Calling bothered me a lot in DAO, I was expecting to run into Utha and the Architect eventually but nope. Perhaps they were the ones who started the Blight using Bergan's knowledge, maybe not.I just wish it would had tied into the books better.

Maybe an add-on or sequel will answer all the questions we have from this last one, or maybe it's all just fluff resolved in other books that won't be answered in the games.

Utha and the Architect seem to be leading the effort, I wouldn't imagine that they would be in the frontlines of the blight.  We might see something concerning them in future DLC, but I really don't want to spoil the plot of DA:O for others to get into details of it.

[Eshaye]

nisallik wrote...

Yeah, I imagine they didn't tell Alistair the whole truth concerning his heritage. About his sister, I'm sure she has no relation to Alistair at all and I assume that she was actually the servant's daughter that was supposedly Alistair's mother. If she was truly Maric's daughter, she would of been well looked after. I'm curious if Alistair is also immune to the taint just like his real mother.

Well IF Goldanna IS Alistair's sister one would assume it's his older half sister and she has no relation to Maric.

But I'm holding on to the idea that was a convenient lie myself as well. Why else would they not allow her back to Redcliffe?

[nisallik]

Eshaye wrote...

Well IF Goldanna IS Alistair's sister one would assume it's his older half sister and she has no relation to Maric.

But I'm holding on to the idea that was a convenient lie myself as well. Why else would they not allow her back to Redcliffe?

I doubt Fiona spent enough time in Ferelden to get to know any other males, so I doubt Goldanna would have any relation to Fiona.  I'm guessing they sent Goldanna away earlier in her life as she probably knows that Alistair is not really related to her... so to erase such drama they probably gave her enough money to setup a new life in Denerim and to keep quite about Alistair's real heritage.

[durasteel]

Al was sheltered from his maternal heritage as much as from his paternity. No one wanted him to have to deal with being the child of an elf, or of a magus, or of a Grey Warden. No doubt the child of Goldanna's mother died at birth, and provided an easy lie to conceal his true mother.



Fiona is probably still out there, however, and will know, after the events at the end of Origins, what has become of her son.

[Daerdor]

*** Spoilers !!! ***





The child born in The Calling is born after Rowan's death.



The codex entry from Alistair specifies he was sent to Redcliffe to hide him from the Arl's sister i.e. Rowan.



=> I could be wrong but it seems to me that Alistair is not the son of Fiona mentionned in The Calling

[David Gaider]

Daerdor wrote...
The codex entry from Alistair specifies he was sent to Redcliffe to hide him from the Arl's sister i.e. Rowan.

I would point out that the codex entries are not intended to be omniscient. They are generally stories, and in the case of the character codexes are based on what that character has "told you" or what they themselves believe. It's possible you are right, I'm not suggesting otherwise, but I'd be cautious in treating the codex as gospel.

[Sir Buliwyf]

I just realised I have yet to comment on the book!

Good read, I enjoyed it. The story was more of dungeon adventure than a grand sweeping story arc that the first book was, and because of that, I think I like the first book more. That might just be because it had Rowan in it though... I enjoyed 'em both and I am currently loving DA.

Thanks David..+ editors + rest of the team etc....

[nisallik]

David Gaider wrote...

Daerdor wrote...
The codex entry from Alistair specifies he was sent to Redcliffe to hide him from the Arl's sister i.e. Rowan.

I would point out that the codex entries are not intended to be omniscient. They are generally stories, and in the case of the character codexes are based on what that character has "told you" or what they themselves believe. It's possible you are right, I'm not suggesting otherwise, but I'd be cautious in treating the codex as gospel.

I was curious about that as well, I just thought it was a mistake that was left in.  Can you give us any hints if we can expect another book? =)

[krystalevenstar]

nisallik wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Daerdor wrote...
The codex entry from Alistair specifies he was sent to Redcliffe to hide him from the Arl's sister i.e. Rowan.

I would point out that the codex entries are not intended to be omniscient. They are generally stories, and in the case of the character codexes are based on what that character has "told you" or what they themselves believe. It's possible you are right, I'm not suggesting otherwise, but I'd be cautious in treating the codex as gospel.

I was curious about that as well, I just thought it was a mistake that was left in.  Can you give us any hints if we can expect another book? =)

This!

[Doright36]

I understand it's not clear in the story "yet" if Alistair is Fiona's son but she is still alive as far as we know right? I didn't miss something where she was listed as dead too like Maric?



You'd think they would tell her if they were going to bring her son into the Wardens. Would she allow that?

[Sir Buliwyf]

Doright36 wrote...

I understand it's not clear in the story "yet" if Alistair is Fiona's son but she is still alive as far as we know right? I didn't miss something where she was listed as dead too like Maric?

You'd think they would tell her if they were going to bring her son into the Wardens. Would she allow that?

I would think she is completely disassociated with him for his benefit.
While the knowledge that her child is also Maric's is restricted, the fact that it's her's would be restricted even more so. Duncan knows. Loghain would probably know, but that's it.
The Arl would know the child was Maric's but not necesseraly know it was fiona's if we're even talking about the same baby, which i think we are.

[LightweightJustice]

Well...I expected something more from this book...

Same goes for Mass Effect books...

The author's wrihting is awsome for games but for books...it's like reading chars' dialoge without any video set or voice acting.

Oh well. It's just a game based story so B -.

[Daerdor]

David Gaider wrote...

Daerdor wrote...
The codex entry from Alistair specifies he was sent to Redcliffe to hide him from the Arl's sister i.e. Rowan.

I would point out that the codex entries are not intended to be omniscient. They are generally stories, and in the case of the character codexes are based on what that character has "told you" or what they themselves believe. It's possible you are right, I'm not suggesting otherwise, but I'd be cautious in treating the codex as gospel.

Thanks for the reply! I'll read the codex entries more sceptically from now on

We'll just have to wait and see how the story evolves ... and hope that more books are published!

[kardox12]

If you make Loghain join the Grey Wardens instead of executing him you will be able to talk to him and learn a lot of interesting things about Anora as well as Alistair. In one of such conversations he says that Maric hid Alistair's existence because he did not want to pain Rowan.



So Loghain knew about Alistair. And Rowan was still alive when Alistair was born (anybody but Loghain wouldn't know this for certain).



It appears that Maric had more than one son on the side =)

[RavenholmeCP42]

nisallik wrote...

Yeah, I imagine they didn't tell Alistair the whole truth concerning his heritage. About his sister, I'm sure she has no relation to Alistair at all and I assume that she was actually the servant's daughter that was supposedly Alistair's mother. If she was truly Maric's daughter, she would of been well looked after. I'm curious if Alistair is also immune to the taint just like his real mother.

That's my take as well.

I also think that we might see DLC that touches upon Utha and the Architect at a later date, and I'm not entirely convinced Duncan is dead. I wonder if the Architect turned up for him....

Well, until I see Duncan's corpse, I'm not going to say he's dead. I mean, we see Cailan get crushed by the Ogre, but we never see Duncan die, just an ambiguous fade to white. And let's face it, the man was too badass and played such a short role in the game....

[durasteel]

David Gaider wrote...
I would point out that the codex entries are not intended to be omniscient. They are generally stories, and in the case of the character codexes are based on what that character has "told you" or what they themselves believe. It's possible you are right, I'm not suggesting otherwise, but I'd be cautious in treating the codex as gospel.

Hey, David, I really enjoyed both books.  I'm looking forward to more of them at your earliest convenience.  One little point I noticed, though - spiders don't have mandibles that slice, they have fangs that puncture.

Anyway, congratulations on your well earned success.  The obvious work you put into the back story for the world of Dragon Age really payed off.

[durasteel]

Daerdor wrote...

The codex entry from Alistair specifies he was sent to Redcliffe to hide him from the Arl's sister i.e. Rowan.

When Fiona brings the infant to the King, we are taken into the royal mind for the scene.  Marik regards the child in the context of Cailan and Rowan, and at no time does he think "Oh, another bastard... I'll just put him with the other one(s)."

Also, as Marik is experiencing feelings for Fiona in the Deep Roads, the reader gets the strong impression that even though he loved Rowan, Fiona is the first woman to really stoke his passion since Katriel.  At least, that's the impression I got.

Modifié par durasteel, 22 novembre 2009 - 07:12 .

[Rally_Point]

I'm reading it right now. Wish it was available on the Kindle like TST was but oh well.

[nisallik]

Hmmm... Could give us a good reason to go and search the Deep Roads if we find many of the Grey Wardens corpse are missing on the Ostagar battlefield. The Architect could have some nice recruits from that battle. ;p

[tom.bleaker]

durasteel wrote...

When Fiona brings the infant to the King, we are taken into the royal mind for the scene.  Marik regards the child in the context of Cailan and Rowan, and at no time does he think "Oh, another bastard... I'll just put him with the other one(s)."

Quite right. Although Loghain might have uttered that line in exasperation. Having read The Calling, I admit I was surpised to be confronted with more of Maric's bastards. I realize it's not realistic for him to have been a monk until his death, though. Maric was a very lonely man. And... well... "it's good to be the king."

[Aseya]

I just read the book and I tried to look through this forum for a t

straightrowards answer - is Alistair Fiona's son?





was there any cmment from Mr Gaider to confirm or deny this?



Way to put a twist in the end



I definately have some serious question after this book but I liked it better than first