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bo_7md wrote...

I agree.

The whole theory contradicts itself. It all started out by saying he is being indoctrinated through out and the reapers are trying to make him make the wrong choice. But why give him a choice at all as soon as he walks towards the floating bridge to destroy the conduit drop it and kill him.

Then it changed into, everything after the reaper fries everyone with the beam is a dream. Then by this logic he couldn't have shot himself in the lower left side as argued in the first phase of the theory.

Honestly i could write for hours about the plot holes and problems in this theory, but what boggles me is that Bioware defended their vision as artistic integrity but i have not as of yet seen someone clearly saying NO indoctrination was intended here, this makes me wonder if they are willing to use it here.


You among al ot of other people did not understand the point of the Indoctrination theory:

He is not hallucinating.. he is passed out.. meaning the 3 choices he has, are only "metaphors" to his own inner conflict...

Blue: Becomes indoctrinated

Green: He becoems a mindeless husk

Red: He breaks free and WAKES UP

Now, after this, a lot of time could have passed... maybe Anderson turned on the conduit while we were sleeping.. or maybe Shepard woked up and then went and used it... (We were not shown this on purpose)  then later on fleed with Joker from Sol to avoid the dying fate of being stranded in a place without any resources.. but on their way to another system, they crash landed...


There are as many logcial ways to break the theory ,as well as many other logical ways to back it up.

Modifié par MadRabbit999, 22 mars 2012 - 11:30 .


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Ieldra2 wrote...

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I actually believe the indoctrination theory as being all powerful - and that ALL ending choices lead to indoctrination.

The breath scene at the end would suggest otherwise - but I tend to view that as more of an easter egg...like the Halo ending on the hardest difficulty - but believe that in all endings - Shep wakes up - but is fully indoctrinated...

I have a few theories about how they could / would/ will get around that if additional ending content is released - but believe that ultimately your choice in there wouldn't matter anyway. Its a Reaper trick forcing you to choose one of three options, so you don't see whats really going on. Which is all choices lead to indoctrination.

While this version isn't insulting, and would at least be fair among the choices, it would be unfair to anyone who likes any of them. Implementing that would basically mean telling anyone who liked the final choice (disregard the plot holes for now) "LOLOL you lose".

I want a fourth choice based on rejecting the whole reasoning as much as anyone, but I would also like the current options to mean something beyond "you lose". I would want to be able to win with either of them.



What I would like to see is you wake up from indoctrination, but you continue the game after - you then get through to the cidatel showing your choices mattering. Your war assets fighting, eventually you get to the cidatel and discover that you still have pretty much those three choices to make - with varying changes based on what you've done, your assets etc. Actually have distinct variation and different epilogues based on your choices.

This hold the indoctrination theory in place, still gives the players those choices at the ending. 

You might ask what this does for the ending...

..well for some it will give closure, some will get their epilogue, their battle with their war assets, their varation in endings based on choices - while people who like the ending get a clear definite end to the game that holds the original part of the ending intact (your synthesis / control / destroy) endings.

..but for others - there will always be the question of - are we still indoctrinated? Is this really happening..or is this a deeper level of indoctrination. Did Shepard go totally mad and suck himself into his own mind?

THAT level of speculation, that very basic, still getting the endings we want but leaving a little bit of doubt in some peoples mind and total belief in others is a better end for me personally that "Lots of speculation for everyone."

I would rather have a small niggle and be left wondering, than having to totally fill in the blanks with my own imagination.

Note : This isn't what I would prefer as my top level ending - but I think it would be fairer for a greater number of players.

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The indoc. theory is actually the most elegant way to come out of this ****storm almost unscathed

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Does the fact that you lose mean that its morally right or wrong?

No of course not, but if all you have to determine which choice is valid is your own reasoning, without additional external evidence, then your choice will be made based on your own values. Being told two of them are wrong then amounts to the game telling you your values are wrong.

If there is a "correct" choice, there must be direct external evidence which one it is. To use the association with villains is false reasoning.

The existence of a general moral value, a system that people decide to follow together, is always present in society and in gaming. For example; Most people agree that murder, rape, and theivery and "evil". Remember its not only Shepard whose, theoretically, being indoctrinated. Its you, the player, as well. And even if you do roleplay your Shepard, as I do, you cant deny that your own moral values also take part in what decisions you make (unless they REALLY dont, lol.) Maybe by playing on what are considered social norms, attacking your values directly by making it red, they accomplished in getting you to do what they want. Remember Synthesis and taking control are also options that dont put others lives in danger. Destruction doesnt only effect the Reapers (sorry I have to be vague to avoid spoilers). The other two options dont offer up these dilemnas. Which is why, I believe, they were shown as "good" as opposed to the "evil" choice of Genocide and Suicide.


First, we were, so far, never forced to agree with a certain value system in the ME games. We can sabotage the genophage cure and defend that choice, we can blithely ignore basic concepts of justice throughout three games if we want and get away with it. To force a moral system on Shepard now would destroy many Shepards as characters. As for the "blue" choices, if I can find no rational reason to avoid them then why should I? The reasons given by the promoters of the hypothesis are based on false reasoning.


I can see where you're coming from, however I cant say that I agree. I can discuss/argue with you about this until we're both blue in the face. But, for the sake of our sanity, i'll let bygones be bygones and agree to disagree. 

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Ieldra2 wrote...

If two of the choices mean you get indoctrinated while one avoids it, then yes, that is tantamount to saying two of them are wrong. Because well, if I choose one of the blue options that doesn't mean I accept the Reapers' reasoning. Yet that is what the promoters of the hypothesis are saying. Most of them anyway.

There is no logic to the assumption that two choices end in indoctrination while one doesn't. That's exactly what this is about.


However, even destroy has a moral outcome. Plus, it could be the only choice to get out of indoctrination country, at the expense of morality. You may escape indoctrination, but not only the reapers will suffer for it. There is no logical right or moral right with that choice. The other two options are much easier to make, depending on your Shepard's moral stand.

All I'm saying is it's not as it seems.

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MadRabbit999 wrote...

bo_7md wrote...

I agree.

The whole theory contradicts itself. It all started out by saying he is being indoctrinated through out and the reapers are trying to make him make the wrong choice. But why give him a choice at all as soon as he walks towards the floating bridge to destroy the conduit drop it and kill him.

Then it changed into, everything after the reaper fries everyone with the beam is a dream. Then by this logic he couldn't have shot himself in the lower left side as argued in the first phase of the theory.

Honestly i could write for hours about the plot holes and problems in this theory, but what boggles me is that Bioware defended their vision as artistic integrity but i have not as of yet seen someone clearly saying NO indoctrination was intended here, this makes me wonder if they are willing to use it here.


You among al ot of other people did not understand the point of the Indoctrination theory:

He is not hallucinating.. he is passed out.. meaning the 3 choices he has, are only "metaphors" to his own inner conflict...

Blue: Becomes indoctrinated

Green: He becoems a mindeless husk

Red: He breaks free and WAKES UP

Now, after this, a lot of time could have passed... maybe Anderson turned on the conduit while we were sleeping.. or maybe Shepard woked up and then went and used it... (We were not shown this on purpose)  then later on fleed with Joker from Sol to avoid the dying fate of being stranded in a place without any resources.. but on their way to another system, they crash landed...


There are as many logcial ways to break the theory ,as well as many other logical ways to back it up.



I was simply showing the phases the theory went through. If you actually read my 2nd paragraph before posting this you would notice i mentioned that it changed into a "dream after the reapers fries them with the beam".

Yes i understand the theory, and the one of the arguments of it is that there is concrete where he is. In all the videos /articles I read no one argued that shepard woke up and used it or that anderson uses it as it makes no sense to show him later still affected by the beam and cut all the part out just to trick us.

Even if he is dreaming why bring the 3rd option the husk option doesn't do anything here. There is no need for it and BTW husks are only created if the body is dead or dies during the merge.

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bo_7md wrote...

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No, toward the DLC.  But Bioware would have to do it.


The Indoc Theory argues that all this is a dream, so the reapers would be alive and kicking when/if he comes to. This would suggest that the DLC is post ending, Now what C.H said is the DLCs will be during ME3 not after it simply rejects this theory.

The "New Ending DLC" was announced as a clarification and answers not a complete re-write, but you never know with Bioware. Lets wait and see :alien:


Technically the ending extends far into the future with an old man and child recounting the story.. so, if they so chose, all is fair game.Image IPB

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OP is right, nothing to add about it.

Of course, proving that pro-Cerberus Shepards were idiots all along is rather a good thing about the Indoctrination theory, not a bad one.

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I'm sorry but, you'd rather have an ending that isn't real be true so that Bioware can release the "real" ending later through DLC rather than have the current ending be true simply because it's disappointing? Why include the "dream" ending at all, for that matter, why not just cut it and include the "real" ending from the get-go? Bioware has pretty much confirmed that they hadn't intended to address the ending until people began complaining about it, that they're working on game content initiatives to provide further closure due to fan reaction.

Plus, a lot of people are saying, "Well, IT wouldn't really take choice away from you, you see, you can still choose to submit to indoctrination." Are you kidding me? Am I the only one who sees the flaw in that logic? As it is, you have multiple endings, however disappointing they might be. With IT, there is no ending. Let me repeat this so it'll sink in: under the present state of IT, ME3 has no ending. And we haven't even factored EMS into the equation. If we factor EMS there are (someone correct me if I'm wrong) about 8 possible scenarios with some slight and some crucial variations to them (no spoilers forum). Under IT, 7 out of 8 scenarios turn out exactly the same. Oh, yeah, and none of those are real.

How is this better? I ask you, no, I beg you, to explain to me how can this possibly be better? Am I the only one who finds that explanation even more depressing than the one we got? :(

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bo_7md wrote...

MadRabbit999 wrote...

bo_7md wrote...

I agree.

The whole theory contradicts itself. It all started out by saying he is being indoctrinated through out and the reapers are trying to make him make the wrong choice. But why give him a choice at all as soon as he walks towards the floating bridge to destroy the conduit drop it and kill him.

Then it changed into, everything after the reaper fries everyone with the beam is a dream. Then by this logic he couldn't have shot himself in the lower left side as argued in the first phase of the theory.

Honestly i could write for hours about the plot holes and problems in this theory, but what boggles me is that Bioware defended their vision as artistic integrity but i have not as of yet seen someone clearly saying NO indoctrination was intended here, this makes me wonder if they are willing to use it here.


You among al ot of other people did not understand the point of the Indoctrination theory:

He is not hallucinating.. he is passed out.. meaning the 3 choices he has, are only "metaphors" to his own inner conflict...

Blue: Becomes indoctrinated

Green: He becoems a mindeless husk

Red: He breaks free and WAKES UP

Now, after this, a lot of time could have passed... maybe Anderson turned on the conduit while we were sleeping.. or maybe Shepard woked up and then went and used it... (We were not shown this on purpose)  then later on fleed with Joker from Sol to avoid the dying fate of being stranded in a place without any resources.. but on their way to another system, they crash landed...


There are as many logcial ways to break the theory ,as well as many other logical ways to back it up.



I was simply showing the phases the theory went through. If you actually read my 2nd paragraph before posting this you would notice i mentioned that it changed into a "dream after the reapers fries them with the beam".

Yes i understand the theory, and the one of the arguments of it is that there is concrete where he is. In all the videos /articles I read no one argued that shepard woke up and used it or that anderson uses it as it makes no sense to show him later still affected by the beam and cut all the part out just to trick us.

Even if he is dreaming why bring the 3rd option the husk option doesn't do anything here. There is no need for it and BTW husks are only created if the body is dead or dies during the merge.


I do not agree or disagree with the indoc... I am just point that, basing something on speculation goes both ways... it's like trying to guess if the bible is right or wrong... we cannot do that without concrete proof.

If you saw one final scene of Shepard going on the Citadel and using the cosole (Again!) You would have been even more confused... that is why it works if it is left to "Your" understanding of the events after he woken up.

Why would 2 options make more sense and not 3?

Hell, with this theory 10 options would have still made sense.. 9 wrong and 1 right, a final test to see if you understood the point of ME..  "Accepting that we cannot control the future, and diveristy is good" (At least that is what I get out of it).

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@OP, Indoctrination is a Theory, not a Hypothesis... it can be tested via past events... just like evolution^^

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 22 mars 2012 - 11:52 .


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I support the implementation of the Indoctrination Theory. And I won't find it's implementation to be an insult to rational people everywhere.

Control isn't "wrong". Synthesis isn't "wrong". Destroy isn't "wrong". What is "wrong" is the notion that Shepard would even consider coming to a compromise with the Reapers when he's had numerous examples of where that road leads throughout the series [indoctrination].

Now I'm not saying that the IT is "right" and all others are wrong, but I would in fact like for it to be right because of the overwhelming convenience it has in regards to the lore and narrative. In most cases "it was all a dream" would be a ludicrous example of storytelling, but not when it's a prevalent theme affecting characters minor and major in scope throughout the narrative.

You may not like that it "invalidates" your choice (I'm assuming you picked Synthesis) but the truth is the IT doesn't invalidate anyone's choice. It was an illusion, a weapon in the form of Shepard's own heroic ego to subvert him.

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Actually, the indoc theory works just fine, in fact, its the only real ending that works okay. A little explanation and plot twist about the crucible is all that is needed. Once Shep wakes up after defeating the indoc attempt, and realize that the crucible is nothing but a big reaper trap for propagating the reaper signals throughout the relay network (as is evidenced in the dream), there is no longer any need to get to the citadel. Shep... could relay that info to Hackett and they could easily cut to a big battle scene where each of your war assets is represented and you watch the battle play out. It pretty obvious that Shep is in no physical condition at this point to help anyway.

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MadRabbit999 wrote...

bo_7md wrote...

MadRabbit999 wrote...

bo_7md wrote...

I agree.

The whole theory contradicts itself. It all started out by saying he is being indoctrinated through out and the reapers are trying to make him make the wrong choice. But why give him a choice at all as soon as he walks towards the floating bridge to destroy the conduit drop it and kill him.

Then it changed into, everything after the reaper fries everyone with the beam is a dream. Then by this logic he couldn't have shot himself in the lower left side as argued in the first phase of the theory.

Honestly i could write for hours about the plot holes and problems in this theory, but what boggles me is that Bioware defended their vision as artistic integrity but i have not as of yet seen someone clearly saying NO indoctrination was intended here, this makes me wonder if they are willing to use it here.


You among al ot of other people did not understand the point of the Indoctrination theory:

He is not hallucinating.. he is passed out.. meaning the 3 choices he has, are only "metaphors" to his own inner conflict...

Blue: Becomes indoctrinated

Green: He becoems a mindeless husk

Red: He breaks free and WAKES UP

Now, after this, a lot of time could have passed... maybe Anderson turned on the conduit while we were sleeping.. or maybe Shepard woked up and then went and used it... (We were not shown this on purpose)  then later on fleed with Joker from Sol to avoid the dying fate of being stranded in a place without any resources.. but on their way to another system, they crash landed...


There are as many logcial ways to break the theory ,as well as many other logical ways to back it up.



I was simply showing the phases the theory went through. If you actually read my 2nd paragraph before posting this you would notice i mentioned that it changed into a "dream after the reapers fries them with the beam".

Yes i understand the theory, and the one of the arguments of it is that there is concrete where he is. In all the videos /articles I read no one argued that shepard woke up and used it or that anderson uses it as it makes no sense to show him later still affected by the beam and cut all the part out just to trick us.

Even if he is dreaming why bring the 3rd option the husk option doesn't do anything here. There is no need for it and BTW husks are only created if the body is dead or dies during the merge.


I do not agree or disagree with the indoc... I am just point that, basing something on speculation goes both ways... it's like trying to guess if the bible is right or wrong... we cannot do that without concrete proof.

If you saw one final scene of Shepard going on the Citadel and using the cosole (Again!) You would have been even more confused... that is why it works if it is left to "Your" understanding of the events after he woken up.

Why would 2 options make more sense and not 3?

Hell, with this theory 10 options would have still made sense.. 9 wrong and 1 right, a final test to see if you understood the point of ME..  "Accepting that we cannot control the future, and diveristy is good" (At least that is what I get out of it).


I'm not speculating, I'm basing my comments/posts on feedback/official announcments made from develpoers and Producers who are directly involved in the game.

Edit: Typo.

Modifié par bo_7md, 22 mars 2012 - 11:59 .


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People, there are inconsistencies everywhere. Someone start by explaining to me why the Reapers don't shut down the relay network.

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OdanUrr wrote...

People, there are inconsistencies everywhere. Someone start by explaining to me why the Reapers don't shut down the relay network.


They need it to travel around the systems.
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OdanUrr wrote...

People, there are inconsistencies everywhere. Someone start by explaining to me why the Reapers don't shut down the relay network.


My guess is that they'll need to use it themselves at some point... plus the fact that the Citadel is also itself a relay.

The more obvious answer is that they said to the underpowered galaxy:  "Bring it!"

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bo_7md wrote...

MadRabbit999 wrote...

bo_7md wrote...

MadRabbit999 wrote...

bo_7md wrote...

I agree.

The whole theory contradicts itself. It all started out by saying he is being indoctrinated through out and the reapers are trying to make him make the wrong choice. But why give him a choice at all as soon as he walks towards the floating bridge to destroy the conduit drop it and kill him.

Then it changed into, everything after the reaper fries everyone with the beam is a dream. Then by this logic he couldn't have shot himself in the lower left side as argued in the first phase of the theory.

Honestly i could write for hours about the plot holes and problems in this theory, but what boggles me is that Bioware defended their vision as artistic integrity but i have not as of yet seen someone clearly saying NO indoctrination was intended here, this makes me wonder if they are willing to use it here.


You among al ot of other people did not understand the point of the Indoctrination theory:

He is not hallucinating.. he is passed out.. meaning the 3 choices he has, are only "metaphors" to his own inner conflict...

Blue: Becomes indoctrinated

Green: He becoems a mindeless husk

Red: He breaks free and WAKES UP

Now, after this, a lot of time could have passed... maybe Anderson turned on the conduit while we were sleeping.. or maybe Shepard woked up and then went and used it... (We were not shown this on purpose)  then later on fleed with Joker from Sol to avoid the dying fate of being stranded in a place without any resources.. but on their way to another system, they crash landed...


There are as many logcial ways to break the theory ,as well as many other logical ways to back it up.



I was simply showing the phases the theory went through. If you actually read my 2nd paragraph before posting this you would notice i mentioned that it changed into a "dream after the reapers fries them with the beam".

Yes i understand the theory, and the one of the arguments of it is that there is concrete where he is. In all the videos /articles I read no one argued that shepard woke up and used it or that anderson uses it as it makes no sense to show him later still affected by the beam and cut all the part out just to trick us.

Even if he is dreaming why bring the 3rd option the husk option doesn't do anything here. There is no need for it and BTW husks are only created if the body is dead or dies during the merge.


I do not agree or disagree with the indoc... I am just point that, basing something on speculation goes both ways... it's like trying to guess if the bible is right or wrong... we cannot do that without concrete proof.

If you saw one final scene of Shepard going on the Citadel and using the cosole (Again!) You would have been even more confused... that is why it works if it is left to "Your" understanding of the events after he woken up.

Why would 2 options make more sense and not 3?

Hell, with this theory 10 options would have still made sense.. 9 wrong and 1 right, a final test to see if you understood the point of ME..  "Accepting that we cannot control the future, and diveristy is good" (At least that is what I get out of it).


I'm not speculating, I'm basing my comments/posts on feedback/official announcments made from develpoers and Producers who are directly involved in the game.

Edit: Typo.


You are reading articles that are made to give onyl partial answers, this is what the offical devs wanted in order for you to speculate.

They never dismissed the indoc theory, and I doubt they ever will, all they said was that the endings are as "intended" which does not disproof the indoc theory. .because their confirmation coudl stil lbe based on the IT.

If they wanted to make it clear.. why saying "These are the endings as we intended" and not "The endings are what they appear to be", this last statement would invalidate all Indoc theories quite easily...

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It would be an insult to any rational person because it means that Shepard is lying on the ground somewhere, the fight is still going on, the reapers haven't been stopped, Earth has not been saved.

IE: Bioware would have sold everyone the final game of a trilogy without the ending, and you weren't allowed to finish your Shepard's 5 year, 3 game journey.

But don't worry they'll sell you the end later on. They can't go with it for this reason alone.

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steej wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

People, there are inconsistencies everywhere. Someone start by explaining to me why the Reapers don't shut down the relay network.


They need it to travel around the systems.
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Seriously? Setting aside for a moment the fact that this has been their MO for millions of years (shut down the network and pick them off one at a time) and they sure could take their time and use whatever standard drive they have (isn't this how they get to the Milky Way in ME3? no relays involved?), you're honestly telling me that the Reapers, creators of the mass relays, wouldn't be able to shut the network and activate one relay at a time to cull one system at a time?:huh:

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Aaleel wrote...

It would be an insult to any rational person because it means that Shepard is lying on the ground somewhere, the fight is still going on, the reapers haven't been stopped, Earth has not been saved, YET.

IE: Bioware would have sold everyone the final game of a trilogy without the ending, and you weren't allowed to finish your Shepard's 5 year, 3 game journey.

But don't worry they'll sell you the end later on. They can't go with it for this reason alone.


Fixed it there for you :)

Only because we do not see Shepard getting up and go into the conduit, doesn't mean that he would not OBVIOUSLY do it after breaking free from the indoctrination attempt.

Edit: Also, if you screw up enoguh the EMS, you really do end up loosing earth anyways.

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MadRabbit999 wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

It would be an insult to any rational person because it means that Shepard is lying on the ground somewhere, the fight is still going on, the reapers haven't been stopped, Earth has not been saved, YET.

IE: Bioware would have sold everyone the final game of a trilogy without the ending, and you weren't allowed to finish your Shepard's 5 year, 3 game journey.

But don't worry they'll sell you the end later on. They can't go with it for this reason alone.


Fixed it there for you :)

Only because we do not see Shepard getting up and go into the conduit, doesn't mean that he would not OBVIOUSLY do it after breaking free from the indoctrination attempt.

Edit: Also, if you screw up enoguh the EMS, you really do end up loosing earth anyways.


The game is over, it's not like he got up after the credits and went on.  If you get the ending it will be in DLC under this theory.  SO like I said, if they go with this theory, they sold you an unfinished game where you weren't allowed to finish your Shepard's story, or "Retake Earth".

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personally i tended to think the control option was the less destructive to other races way of destroying the reapers.. you can now control them to fly into the nearest sun after all.

as for the whole ending is indocrination theory.. i see how people could think that but im taking a wait and see attitude with it

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Aaleel wrote...

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

It would be an insult to any rational person because it means that Shepard is lying on the ground somewhere, the fight is still going on, the reapers haven't been stopped, Earth has not been saved, YET.

IE: Bioware would have sold everyone the final game of a trilogy without the ending, and you weren't allowed to finish your Shepard's 5 year, 3 game journey.

But don't worry they'll sell you the end later on. They can't go with it for this reason alone.


Fixed it there for you :)

Only because we do not see Shepard getting up and go into the conduit, doesn't mean that he would not OBVIOUSLY do it after breaking free from the indoctrination attempt.

Edit: Also, if you screw up enoguh the EMS, you really do end up loosing earth anyways.


The game is over, it's not like he got up after the credits and went on.  If you get the ending it will be in DLC under this theory.  SO like I said, if they go with this theory, they sold you an unfinished game where you weren't allowed to finish your Shepard's story, or "Retake Earth".


Actualyl he does get "up" at least that is what is implying with the breathing.

Fallout 3 had an ending.... the game was complete... then they made an expansion... the ending changed... does it mean the original game was not complete? Nope...

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LolaLei

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I like the idea of the indoctrination theory but if they do use it then it will be a tough one to impliment without isolating people who picked the control and merge options.

I'm not sure how people would react if they discovered that Shepard had woken up from the hallucination only to later turn on his/her team mates. I guess they could make it so that Shepard wakes up regardless of the players choice and if you picked merge or control then towards the end of the dlc Shepard's indoctrination kicks in but is some how talked down or saved by one of the other team members who destroys the Reapers for Shepard instead (based on your EMS score)... but even then that would cause a few problems.

Modifié par LolaLei, 22 mars 2012 - 12:21 .