fwc577 wrote...
Ieldra2 wrote...
He4vyMet4l wrote...
You still make the decision you think is right. If Harbinger tricks you into it, it doesn't mean that the decision is false and that there is only one choice.
If two of the choices mean you get indoctrinated while one avoids it, then yes, that is tantamount to saying two of them are wrong. Because well, if I choose one of the blue options that doesn't mean I accept the Reapers' reasoning. Yet that is what the promoters of the hypothesis are saying. Most of them anyway.
You are basing this solely on the moral aspet of right or wrong. There is also the logical aspect to your decision.
There is no logic to the assumption that two choices end in indoctrination while one doesn't. That's exactly what this is about.
Actually, the whole premise of the indoc theory and the other choices being "wrong" is sheer brilliance and the fact you think it's a slap in the face because you choose one of those two options is the games way of showing you that your weak willed and will fail in the 11th hour.
That is exactly the kind of arrogance I find abhorrent in some of the hypothesis' promoters. It's based on the premise that those who choose the other options are somehow thinking wrong. That's complete bullsh*t. Because you know, if it's all unreal anyway the only anchor you have for your decision is your own reason. I *have* to choose based on my own values because there is nothing else. Any external evidence can be delusional. If you want the game to tell those not agreeing with you they're thinking wrong, what makes that of you? Someone who is unable to accept that other people's opinions may have merit. In other words, a fundamentalist.
In ME3, TIM wants to control the reapers and everytime it gets brought up you tell him he is evil and he is insane and the reapers cannot be controlled and he should help instead of hinder. So at the very end, what would suddenly make Shepard believe that the "control" ending is suddenly right? Maybe because its bathed in a blue light and starchild tells you that destroy will wipe out all Synthetic life, something that if you've been choosing Paragon options and saved Geth/Quarians isn't something you want to do. You've been tricked.
That is bullsh*t. Play Renegade for once and you see it. What happens is that you challenge TIM to use his newfound ability to help, and he can't. Nowhere are you forced to say it's a bad idea. Even Hackett says TIM might be on to something after Sanctuary.
Also you haven't read my OP: It is exactly the point that the fact TIM wants to control the Reapers is if no relevance whatsoever to the question of whether or not it's a good idea in the first place. I could as easily say YOU've been tricked. You've been tricked into not thinking clearly and invoking evil by association where it doesn't exist.
What about Synthesis? Well, Synthesis is exactly what Saren wanted from ME1. So why stop him if you are going to play through two other games and then choose to do what he wanted done in the first place?
Again, the fact that Saren supported the idea of melding synthetics and organics is of no relevance. I stopped him because he had become a slave of the Reapers IN SPITE of believing his idea is basically a good one.
Saren was deceived by the Reapers into believing they would realize his ideas, but all he got was indoctrination. I am not so deceived. I know very well that the Reapers will not realize them. I wonder why the indoctrination theorists believe they have a way out by choosing Destroy. That makes no sense.
The whole reason that indoc theory states the other two choices are "wrong" and incorrect is based partly on three things. 1-you die in both of those endings
You die in all endings, actually. That's pretty much in line with the sacrifice theme. The survival scenario is so hard to get - even impossible for a pure SP game - that it might as well be noncanonical. It's a tidbit for those who don't care about the underlying themes of the final choice and just want their Shepard to survive.
and 2-they were options two other series bad guys wanted to choose
Irrelevant. To make a choice based on this is false reasoning.
and 3-The starchild wants you to choose one of those two options instead of destroy and actually lies to you about what destroy is going to do.
You have no evidence what the starchild wants you to do. If anything, it could be said it wants you to take any of the THREE options. Also, that it lies is an assumption not supported by any evidence, and IF it lies, then it may as well lie about the results of the Destroy option in your disfavor.
The whole hypothesis rests on an assumption anchored in a void.
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