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[GeneralBacon339]

what if bioware had planned to extend the ending with DLC right off of the get go?  There is a special ending after you beat the game twice that clearly shows shepard living.


What if?  Ya the ending as is, is a dick move, but what if this up roar was for nothing?

i DO STILL want a happy ending

The indoctrinatin theory is ingenious, lots of good threads on it, that make ALOT of sense and back it up with evidence galor!

the ending just doesn't seem to fit into the mass effect genre at all, all the time and effort they put into it, how epic the rest of the game was 99.99% until after the run to the citadel beam.   doesn't make any sense that they would drop the ball right there does it?

HOLD THE LINE!  i believe that a better ending is coming (hopefully with optional happy ending)  Weither from all of our raging or because they planned it from the start.  Hold the Line!  /salute

[Fat Head]

There's a few of us who actually believe that, myself included. Most people seem to have their foot firmly planted in the "No, Bioware screwed up royally, and they just didn't care/ran out of time due to pressure" camp. I'm not convinced that would actually be the case, but of course it's possible.

As is this whole thing being one of the worst publicity stunts in the history of gaming. We've got no real evidence either way.

[shinobi602]

I just want an ending where my Shep and LI can actually survive together and live together. Reapers destroyed, heavy losses (Mordin, Grunt, Legion, Anderson, fleets, etc) but at least have one OPTION where you can achieve survival

[joe1852]

they didnt they ****ed up

[Sparse]

If they had done that then I doubt they would have spent two weeks getting criticised by their customers, and now be in the situation where they are getting criticised by the gaming media. It would explain why kotaku were complaining that Bioware had been totally silent on the issue for so long, but it doesn't fit with the statements made, and I don't think they would have allowed it to hit sales as it appears to have done.

I think they just lost their way a little bit in the consistency of the storyline by trying to leave the series with a memorable ending.

[Aesieru]

They lost a lot of money from all the negativity and reviews I'd imagine, I doubt it'd be worth the "surprise", and I know that it wasn't their initial plan.

The game has far more problems than just the final 5 or so minutes, there's a ton of continuity errors and lazy writing.

[Midarenkov]

@Sparse, you have an awesome sig.

[Tinmachine]

If so, the implementation is poor, the game is too short and shipped without an actual ending.

I surely hope SOME ending is coming to replace the current incoherent, uninspiring mess.

[KingNothing125]

Then they are evil geniuses, but like Hank Scorpio, I still love them. I love Mass Effect and I want it to end the way it deserves to be ended... on a triumphant high note.

[ploppy54]

but if it still to be continued then its not a complete game!! i have no problem buying extra dlc i just want someone to explain the ending is it indoc is is not is my crew appearing on the normandy in my head or is there a gap that dlc will fill just what the hell is going on???

[SamFlagg]

I'd say unless someone in the PR office is a madman saying "NO NO WE'VE GOT THEM RIGHT WHERE WE WANT THEM!" then the probability is they just fumbled the football.

And honestly, that's a much better much easier to deal with reality anyway.  I'd prefer that they made a mistake instead of intentionally selling me a product that they knew was incomplete.

[KingG528]

Its always a possibility. It just doesn't make sense for the game to end on a cliffhanger (as is the case in the "perfect" Destroy ending)

[Qutayba]

I think the indoc theory, or at least the withheld-ending theory, has a lot of strong evidence behind it. But we just won't know for sure until April.

[Sparse]

Midarenkov wrote...

@Sparse, you have an awesome sig.

I've been waiting since ME1 to shoot Udina.

[katamuro]

if they did, they missed the reveal moment, now there is too much suspicion and bitterness. Because if they released it now there will be a huge backlash again.

[shinobi602]

It would be pretty damn genius if Bioware does come out next month and say "Ok yes, it's been difficult to keep it in this whole time, but the indoc theory is true."

Biggest troll in video game history.

[MrFob]

I hoped for it while BW was silent. However, after Ray's statement it doesn't make sense any more. They would not release something like this if they already had what we are all asking for.

[Ome6ablak]

Is it so hard to believe that bioware actually planned this from jump? I mean how can you have single player DLC if at the end the main character is dead? All DLC from ME1 and ME2 were playable anywhere in the story. So if you finished either you could go back and play the extra content after the main story. It stands to reason that if Shepard lives if you choose to destroy the Reapers then there is more story to be told. If that's not a "To Be Continued" moment I don't know what is.

[Quintus Kessler]

I guess that would be irrelevant. The point of the matter is that we need a new/more/happier endings. The idea that they planned this from the beginning would only strengten the discontent towards Bioware. In the end, it won't change that much.

[MrGuse]

Then they're evil geniuses.

[sheppard7]

Fat Head wrote...

There's a few of us who actually believe that, myself included. Most people seem to have their foot firmly planted in the "No, Bioware screwed up royally, and they just didn't care/ran out of time due to pressure" camp. I'm not convinced that would actually be the case, but of course it's possible.

As is this whole thing being one of the worst publicity stunts in the history of gaming. We've got no real evidence either way.

If it was planned from the beginning then it better be for free.

[Mr Tigglyfeef]

I actually approve of the idea of them having this planned from the beginning...but i don't think they did, sadly.

I think, after everything, they'd've stepped forward and admitted it. ...but, they've just apologised.

I love the indoctrination theory, though. They should definitely jump on that fan-created bandwagon and ride it all the way home.

[JasonDaPsycho]

Even if that's true, how they've handled the situation has already antagonized us.

[Jelis]

The signs are all there.
Maybe a hint or reveal at PAX East?

[Adamski_707]

I dont know what to believe in this regard.
If they did plan it well done but it could have been handled better if that was the case i guess.
If they didnt they could on the indoc theory for example and probably solve the complaints etc with ease.
If they leave it as it is, i will be saddened but at the same time from that point onwards once i get hit by the beam i will quit and read my own ending i wrote